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Verizon high speed DSL v Comcast

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desolation777

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My father is switching the house to dsl tommorow and i wanted to know if it sucks haha. Right now i have comcast, but he wanted lower rates so he moved to verizon. Anyone have any good news for me?
 
Unless desolation777 has already done his homework, its going to be an unknowable question. There is the advertised up to speed and the actual throughput you can measure with various internet speed tests. Both cable and DSL speed can vary with load, line noise, and other variables. If anything, dsl is more subject to adverse conditions and you may discover, if you monitor throughput, that there are good days and bad days. It may come too late to get a measure of what you had, but if you know what you had and measure what you have in dsl, you can simply do the math.
 
9 times out of 10 the cable will be faster. If you game a lot latency is a factor. I have cable, but the local DSL here sucks, it could be better there.
Lets say you play on a server a lot. Get the servers IP and ping it, record the latency, also tracert to it and record the number of hops. Then do the same on the DSL, the less latency and hops the better.

Chances are your DSL is going to be about 3Mb/s (depending on location) and your comcast was most likely 6Mb/s With "Power Boost" (fancy lingo for burst, so pages load fast and you get ~20mbs for like 10 seconds. then it slows to 6mbs) and this again, is depending on location.

Good luck, i hope the DSL there is better then what it is here. Here it is like 20 or more hops to anywhere. Also might want to check if they have a bandwidth limit, or like comcast say its unlimited and still shut you off after a large usage. If you download a lot you will want unlimited. And i have only heard of comcast cutting people off after like 300gb in a month.
 
Switched to Verizon couple months ago from a cable provider(had 3mbps/256kbps, actually got 10mbps/1mbps. It sucks. We're signed up for 1.5/384(apparently there were no more "3mbps" spots open according to Verizon), we get about 850/384. This is perfectly acceptable to Verizon(minimum is 800, only 34kbps above the cheaper package), after a couple weeks of arguing I said fuck it...I won't have it forever and I'll be downgrading when the deal is over. Funny enough, in all metro areas my laptops Sprint "Broadband" PCMCIA wireless adapter gets about 1mbps/500mbps on average.
 
I switched from Charter to AT&T DSL and saved about 50% on my bill. The best part about it is that I went from paying for a 5mb/256kb cable connection which regularly gave me about 3mb/128kb to paying half that for a 6mb/768kb DSL connection in which I ALWAYS get all 6mb/768kb.

It all depends on your location. Blanket statements like "cable is always faster" are simply not accurate.
 
DSL is heavily dependent on the distance to the CO (should be 18k feet or less I believe) and the quality of the circuit. The cable plant is generally newer, depending on where you live, so I think they have fewer circuit quality issues.
 
Our stories might elevate or reduce your anxiety but it would not change the characteristic of your specific local.

Your father switched, so soon enough you would know how it works.

Alternatively, pay for your own Internet and get Comcast too.

http://www.ezlan.net/DSL_Cable.html
 
It all depends on where you live. Me for example.. comcast is 3Mbps/384kbps. I pretty much got that, but all the newer offerings of 6/8/12Mbps.. still list 384kbps as the upload speed, which is what I want. So DSL gives me 3Mbps/768kbps, and it works out pretty close to it. and it's cheaper, heh.
 
Honestly, in MOST areas, cable service will outrank DSL service just because it is a better, newer technology. DSL suffers from distance issues as well as issues with bad copper wiring from decades ago compared to the newer cable networks where a lot of cable companies have fiber backbones going to all the neighborhood hubs and then it's coax from there to the houses. In my area, DSL is infamous for being bad technology whereas my cable has had very few, if any problems (other than a major fiber optic line being cut during construction but what can you do about that?).
 
Originally posted by: desolation777
yea im bummed, my upload speed is 1.5mbps download and 600kbps upload. this sucks so much ass :/
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Your upload speed is damn near twice what I get from Comcast. I pray to the Gods of Networking nightly for Verizon to buy Embarq and bring FIOS here so we can have an alternative. 5-6 mbps down... and 368k up... woohoo.
 
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
FIOS is so so, i dont really like it
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Why?
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I have known a few people with it, and used it for a few weeks my self. And in my experience it was great for web surfing. But A. The download speed would drop after a few minutes, B they block some incoming ports so you cant host your own stuff. Same goes for If your hosting a game server, it works ok but as soon as you start really using that upload it cuts back.
Basically any time you really start using that bandwidth it cuts back. Now thats understandable its a business, most ISP's do that. But i use a lot of bandwidth each month, so it never really played nice with me.
 
Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
I have known a few people with it, and used it for a few weeks my self. And in my experience it was great for web surfing. But A. The download speed would drop after a few minutes, B they block some incoming ports so you cant host your own stuff. Same goes for If your hosting a game server, it works ok but as soon as you start really using that upload it cuts back.
Basically any time you really start using that bandwidth it cuts back. Now thats understandable its a business, most ISP's do that. But i use a lot of bandwidth each month, so it never really played nice with me.
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I switched from Comcast to FIOS last year. The service has been leaps and bounds better than the Comcast service. My upload and download speeds have been extremely consistent and the connection far more reliable than I had on the cable connection. I defiantly have not seen any of the cutting back of speeds that you have mentioned. Ultimately the 5MB uploads I get under FIOS are not even in the same class as the miserable 400k speeds offered my Comcast in my area.

They do, indeed, block some ports like port 80, but, I have a pretty good work around for that. Then again, Comcast did the same thing and the 400k upload pipe made it so it wasn't worthwhile to use it for that.

In my case, what really made me ditch comcast fast was the reliability. Packet loss was terrible. Despite a dozen tech support calls these problems were never resolved for me. It made my Vonage service pretty unreliable after a while. Now all of those issues are gone.

Honestly, I think it's all down to how the particular service is in your specific area. I live in North East Massachusetts and there are enough problems where FIOS is making some serious in roads on the well established cable installations. Hell, I was on cable broadband for about 10 years before I switched. What amused me most about the Comcast vs FIOS service here is how the week FIOS became available in my neighborhood, a Comcast sales rep spent the week going door to door to try and stop people from switching.
 
Yeah, Your location always effect's the performance of your internet. I have cable and its great. I would love Fiber though, Something like Time Warner Telecom or Level 3 would rock. 100Mb/s up and down....I'm dreaming again.

I do find it comical that the comcast guy came around trying to get people not to switch.
 
Well comcast is offering 100 Mbs service this year to a good amount of their customers.

As a technology cable is ALWAYS better than dsl.
 
Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
FIOS is so so, i dont really like it
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Why?
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I have known a few people with it, and used it for a few weeks my self. And in my experience it was great for web surfing. But A. The download speed would drop after a few minutes, B they block some incoming ports so you cant host your own stuff. Same goes for If your hosting a game server, it works ok but as soon as you start really using that upload it cuts back.
Basically any time you really start using that bandwidth it cuts back. Now thats understandable its a business, most ISP's do that. But i use a lot of bandwidth each month, so it never really played nice with me.
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If you want to host your own stuff, then you need to change to Fios for business. You might want to have your service checked if your download speed is dropping. That's not happening to any of the people that I know who have Fios. Game hosting, & torrent downloads are phenomenal.

 
Like i said, i dont have it but used it for a while, And if i want to host a site i put a server at my work on the 100+Mb/s network (wireless ISP), but like i said, i have cable, and its business cable. its 10/1 and i use more bandwidth then 99.9% of the users. were talking 300-500gb a month. when i used fios they didnt like that. And my friend tryed to host a CSS server on it.
Good machine dual core, 4gb of ram, worked well till it got to about 15 people, then all the pings would hit the roof, pluged it in a work, no problem ran 30 people for 3 weeks.
and it wasnt his network, we checked all that. It was FIOS, the only way we could get pings back down was to take the upload down to about 1mb/s then it would let us go back to 15 or so for a few minutes then start acting up again.
 
Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
Like i said, i dont have it but used it for a while, And if i want to host a site i put a server at my work on the 100+Mb/s network (wireless ISP), but like i said, i have cable, and its business cable. its 10/1 and i use more bandwidth then 99.9% of the users. were talking 300-500gb a month. when i used fios they didnt like that. And my friend tryed to host a CSS server on it.
Good machine dual core, 4gb of ram, worked well till it got to about 15 people, then all the pings would hit the roof, pluged it in a work, no problem ran 30 people for 3 weeks.
and it wasnt his network, we checked all that. It was FIOS, the only way we could get pings back down was to take the upload down to about 1mb/s then it would let us go back to 15 or so for a few minutes then start acting up again.
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i think you are full of it.
 
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