Verison xDSL and D-Link cable/DSL Firewall/Router

Fallen Kell

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Ok, one of my friends is having some problems. He just got Verison xDSL (sorry don't know what he is paying for 640Kbs I think)... Anyway he is trying to have it work for several computers. I said that he would need to do one of two things, either make one computer into a router using NAT software and 2 NIC's or buy a router.

After telling him this, he asked me to look at the computers he had, and after doing so I informed him that it would most likely be MUCH better for him to get a router as the computers were all either 233-300 mHz machines that could bairly run Win98 let alown handle the added CPU load of routing network packets (to give you an idea the fastest one would take 19 minutes to actually reboot, 32 megs of RAM was not helping either).

So he goes and buys a D-Link DI-701, which seems to be a pretty good deal. Hardware firewall, DHCP hosting services for 32 computers, etc., nice features when you read them on paper. Well it turns out that Verison needs you to use DIAL-UP software that will "dial-up" the connection to the server! Now I have no clue how to tell him to set this up. With the system working the way it does, there is no way for the router to obtain an IP address from Verison.

I personally have a crapload of network experience, but I have never seen anything like this before. My cable modem work just as if I was connected to a LAN. When my computer turns on, its NIC broadcasts its MAC address and access information (groupid, etc) and the server response by giving me an IP address (well actually mine broadcasts its IP also, but that is because I am not using DHCP). Anyway, Verison's website says that you can connect more then one computer, you just need the equipment to do it, but in REALITY they keep you from using routers because of the dial-up connection that needs to be made wth their software.

Anyone have any ideas on what I can tell my friend to do? Does anyone here use Verison and own a router? Verison Tech Support says that they only use DHCP (I asked my friend to see if they would give him a static IP so I could put that info into the router and maybe make everything work, but it also has a DHCP option that we were trying to use). The only other thing I could think of was to ask what Verison would do if it needed to run on LINUX, cause the software they have to dialup is only Windows/Mac versions.
 

Xanathar

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Use a Linksys or equilivant router that supports PPPoE. It will solve your problem
 

Fallen Kell

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No PPPeO support on this version of the router. D-Link says that their firmware will support it (Second Quarter 2000), this is according to their website, but the one my friend has was just purchased 2 weeks ago and it does not support it. Looks like he was given an old model. I'll have him return it if he can.
 

Plester

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saw this on dslreports

Had a hard time connecting with it at first-- talked to tech support (waited on hold for 40 min), and we fixed it by switching the protocols from PPPoE to DHCP, rebooting the router, and switching them back to PPPoE.

Weird glitch, and I have to do it almost every time I make changes to the router configuration, but other than that, it's great, and only $120.[
 

WoundedWallet

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If Plester suggestion doesn't work tell your friend to sell me his router and I'll sell him my hub :)

While a hub sucks I don't think he would have the same problem.

Another good solution would be for him to dump Verizon and go for an ISP that gives static IPs. If everybody stuck to their guns and demanded static, pretty soon the monopolies would give in to that.

Screw PPPoE!