Venom (2018 film)

renz20003

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2nd trailer just dropped, spoiler alert the Symbiote has no ties to Spider-Man...

What a joke!

 
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Sony needs to stop making awful Marvel movies. Not only no Spiderman, but some made up origin story AND Venom's an anti hero. GTFO Sony.
 
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Sony needs to stop making awful Marvel movies. Not only no Spiderman, but some made up origin story AND Venom's an anti hero. GTFO Sony.
Comic book Venom has gone back and forth; driven by vengeance and a perverted sense of justice, but respectful of innocence. So this is another interpretation of the character; I'm ok with that.

Doing Venom without Spiderman is odd, but not any weirder that some Elseworlds or What If comic.
 

snoopy7548

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God I hate the way that chick says "symbiote."

And these trailers need to stop that bwap shit. It's been overplayed for at least the past five years. Boom... brrrrrraaahhh.... brrrrrahhhhh... BOOM... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

RossMAN

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If MoviePass is still around in Oct I'll probably see this, otherwise pass.
 

RearAdmiral

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God I hate the way that chick says "symbiote."

And these trailers need to stop that bwap shit. It's been overplayed for at least the past five years. Boom... brrrrrraaahhh.... brrrrrahhhhh... BOOM... BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Big Oboe made it's play successfully.
 

kage69

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I'm quite tired of all the super hero movies, little to no interest in them last decade or so. Ragnarok piqued my interest because of the humor angle, and I thought it was pretty good, but generally my interest in hero movies has collapsed. The genre has been beat like a dead horse, so formulaic. Movies like Get Out or A Quiet Place are far more appealing to me.
 

zinfamous

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Sony needs to stop making awful Marvel movies. Not only no Spiderman, but some made up origin story AND Venom's an anti hero. GTFO Sony.

Venom always was something of an anti-hero. He only ever wanted to kill Spider-man, and always protected innocents. He even teamed up with Spider-man a few times to defeat Carnage, because understood the madness of Carnage.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Venom always was something of an anti-hero. He only ever wanted to kill Spider-man, and always protected innocents. He even teamed up with Spider-man a few times to defeat Carnage, because understood the madness of Carnage.
I want a Carnage movie. Straight up NC-17, flaying flesh from bone, horror show of a movie.

Gouts of blood. The Shining meets Kill Bill. For two hours.
 

zinfamous

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I want a Carnage movie. Straight up NC-17, flaying flesh from bone, horror show of a movie.

Gouts of blood. The Shining meets Kill Bill. For two hours.

It would be the only way to do Carnage properly, but it's not like you have to see the straight-up gore like you would in some low-budget guts-based Horror show. Blood a plenty, and wounds and all that, of course. People and their horrified expressions are more than enough to get the point across, and it's always better than unending visceral gore. ...maybe a few of those, like the grisly remains of a corpse discovered after the fact.
 

Aikouka

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The two things that stuck out to me were Tom Hardy's... interesting accent and the pronunciation of "symbiote". :p The rest of it could be fine.

I'm quite tired of all the super hero movies, little to no interest in them last decade or so. Ragnarok piqued my interest because of the humor angle, and I thought it was pretty good, but generally my interest in hero movies has collapsed. The genre has been beat like a dead horse, so formulaic. Movies like Get Out or A Quiet Place are far more appealing to me.

I think that's why Marvel is pushing for different directors that can make their own take at a movie. Well.. I guess all except for poor Edgar Wright. :p
 

[DHT]Osiris

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It would be the only way to do Carnage properly, but it's not like you have to see the straight-up gore like you would in some low-budget guts-based Horror show. Blood a plenty, and wounds and all that, of course. People and their horrified expressions are more than enough to get the point across, and it's always better than unending visceral gore. ...maybe a few of those, like the grisly remains of a corpse discovered after the fact.
Quantity is a quality all its own.
 

kage69

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Quantity is a quality all its own.

Of course, but while that scans for combat tactics, we're talking about an art form here right? Zin just referenced the art part - your take seems closer to why Hollywood has been resting on laurels, cranking out tepid sequels one after another. Put me down for what made Jaws great, spooking the ever living shit out of the country for years. Same goes for Alien. I've never heard anyone say they had nightmares over Kill Bill. How long does a movie really stay with you? That's quality.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Of course, but while that scans for combat tactics, we're talking about an art form here right? Zin just referenced the art part - your take seems closer to why Hollywood has been resting on laurels, cranking out tepid sequels one after another. Put me down for what made Jaws great, spooking the ever living shit out of the country for years. Same goes for Alien. I've never heard anyone say they had nightmares over Kill Bill. How long does a movie really stay with you? That's quality.
Fair enough, though I wasn't necessarily looking for a Carnage movie to be the second coming. Having said that, I'm in full support of maximum effort in all endeavors (meta-marvel ITT) so I say go for it. Though Jaws had unfortunate fallout in that it resulted in a whole lotta dead sharks based on ignorant fear. Considering we don't have any aliens we can wholesale slaughter (yet) I'm all for more Xenomorphs.
 

ImpulsE69

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It would be the only way to do Carnage properly, but it's not like you have to see the straight-up gore like you would in some low-budget guts-based Horror show. Blood a plenty, and wounds and all that, of course. People and their horrified expressions are more than enough to get the point across, and it's always better than unending visceral gore. ...maybe a few of those, like the grisly remains of a corpse discovered after the fact.

This reminds me of going to see The Green Inferno with some friends and others I hadn't met before. Apparently, only myself and one other person had actually looked up what the movie was....so when the 'action' started, the looks on the faces of everyone else was funner to watch than the movie. For those that have seen it, they will understand why this is the case. (The movie is horrible, but a good 25-30 minutes at the beginning is interesting and no clue where that movie is headed).
 

Denly

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I'm quite tired of all the super hero movies, little to no interest in them last decade or so. Ragnarok piqued my interest because of the humor angle, and I thought it was pretty good, but generally my interest in hero movies has collapsed. The genre has been beat like a dead horse, so formulaic. Movies like Get Out or A Quiet Place are far more appealing to me.
The only superhero movie I saw last year was WW and I am happy that I did, I likely going to watch IW for the sake of it, after that it will be WWII when it come.
 

Aikouka

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Got back from seeing Venom, and it is... fine... I guess? It probably hits pretty much every single complaint that you hear about comic book movies being unoriginal. Probably the worst part was the last fight, which was done at night in a dimly lit area. That meant you pretty much couldn't really see what was going on, and that was in 2D. It must have been awful with the dim nature of a 3D movie!

For anyone that was apprehensive about the PG-13 rating, you can certainly see it during the Venom scenes. Any sort of "head detachment moments" are really hard to see, and most of the violence is rather cartoony in nature.

As for extra scenes, there are two with one after the fancy credits and one... sort of at the end. The first one has to do with the Venom continuity, but the second one does not... or even any other MCU movie. I'll put a spoiler around what it is -- without any extra detail -- to see if you're interested in waiting for it as the credits were quite long.

It was something like a 5 minute scene from the Into The Spider-verse animated movie.

Oh, and I wonder if Sony listened to complaints after the trailers, because they do pronounce "symbiote" in a normal way, and Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock doesn't sound nearly as weird as he does in the trailers.

EDIT:

And if you're wondering, the first end-credits scene is about...

introducing Carnage... played by Woody Harrelson :confused:
 
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zinfamous

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Fair enough, though I wasn't necessarily looking for a Carnage movie to be the second coming. Having said that, I'm in full support of maximum effort in all endeavors (meta-marvel ITT) so I say go for it. Though Jaws had unfortunate fallout in that it resulted in a whole lotta dead sharks based on ignorant fear. Considering we don't have any aliens we can wholesale slaughter (yet) I'm all for more Xenomorphs.

lol, that's a good point, I suppose. All I know is that I don't want to pay money to see some shlock like Saw 12 or Hostel 24 or whatthefuckever. That's for 2am, drunk, and I've given up scrolling through Netflix....maybe....if I hate myself I guess.


....I'm still kind of interested in seeing this. Maybe wait till it hits streaming, though. I can't see myself getting to a theater any time soon for it, and I have a feeling this one won't last all that long.