Venice, Newcastle, Winchester

[Keysplayr]

There seems to be an abundance of newcastles for sale in FSFT. Very few Venice and Winchester chips.

My question:

Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy a 3500+ Newcastle over a 3500+ Winchester for Venice? I know they are different manufacturing processes. 130nm and 90nm respectively. But should this really matter to me? If I get a 3500+ of any kind, I am most likely not going to o/c at all.

I know Venice has SSE3 extensions, but does this matter?
I know Venice has an improved memory controller when populating 4 DIMM slots with memory. Does this matter if I only will ever use 2 DIMM slots?

It's turning out to be a lot harder than I thought to even purchase a A64 straight out. Sometimes it's days before some of them return a PM.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

If not overclocking a Newcastle will be fine and make a nice system.

 

[theMan]

there will be almost no performance difference at stock. but, if you want to overclock, you shouldnt get the new castle.

 

[AiponGkooja]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
There seems to be an abundance of newcastles for sale in FSFT. Very few Venice and Winchester chips.

Think about that...

But more seriously, as far as I know (which isn't much), if you're not overclocking it probably won't matter. The Newcastle WILL run hotter and draw more power, even at stock I believe, but nothing that's going to burn it out or overload any PSU that's more advanced than a potato battery I'm guessing.

 

[coomar]

if your not overclocking, their isn't too much difference

sse3 isn't that useful yet, the only application i know of is that its used by rosetta to emulate x86 for os x

 

[spiritwalker2223]

Just remember that if you need to use 4 sticks of ram, there will be a small performance hit with the newcastle (and winchester too) over the venice. As they go to 2T cammand rate with 4 sticks of ram.

The newcastle runs hotter, but it's max allowable temperature is also higher. And yes it will draw an extra 20 watts or something like that, but with cool and quite it's problably very similar.

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Originally posted by: AiponGkooja
The Newcastle WILL run hotter and draw more power, even at stock I believe.

Bingo.

 

[freethrowtommy]

Originally posted by: spiritwalker2223
Just remember that if you need to use 4 sticks of ram, there will be a small performance hit with the newcastle (and winchester too) over the venice. As they go to 2T cammand rate with 4 sticks of ram.

That isn't right...

The Venice doesn't run at 1T with 4 sticks either... what the Venice DOES do is it doesn't downclock the ram to DDR333.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: freethrowtommy

Originally posted by: spiritwalker2223
Just remember that if you need to use 4 sticks of ram, there will be a small performance hit with the newcastle (and winchester too) over the venice. As they go to 2T cammand rate with 4 sticks of ram.

That isn't right...

The Venice doesn't run at 1T with 4 sticks either... what the Venice DOES do is it doesn't downclock the ram to DDR333.

Yes. freethrowtommy is correct.

And to the OP, it's really not gonna matter much if you aren't OCing.