Velop vs. Orbi vs. eero vs. Google wifi, etc.

[madoka]

I have two houses that are next door to each other. Rather than continue to pay two separate internet fees, I'd like to get one of these new systems to send the signal from one house to the other.

Which of these would be best for this job?

 

[Kartajan]

More details would give a better chance of a good answer. I would default to the Orbi...

 

[PliotronX]

I would trench some fiber depending on the layout between houses, its very affordable these days. No experience with those wireless solutions, but I can vouch for Ubiquiti AirMax and AirFiber.

 

[mnewsham]

I would trench some fiber

If you're going through the effort to do that I don't see why you wouldn't just run CAT6a. 10gbps up to 100m. You'll be set for at least a decade or two without anything needing upgrading except switches and NICs if/when you need more than 1gbps.


1000 feet of CAT6a will run you ~$170. Unless you've already got the equipment to run on fiber, you'll be better off using ethernet in most residential instances.

 

[PliotronX]

If you're going through the effort to do that I don't see why you wouldn't just run CAT6a. 10gbps up to 100m. You'll be set for at least a decade or two without anything needing upgrading except switches and NICs if/when you need more than 1gbps.


1000 feet of CAT6a will run you ~$170. Unless you've already got the equipment to run on fiber, you'll be better off using ethernet in most residential instances.

Copper is a different ballgame with egress in potentially stormy weather. I've had to help clients who thought it was a good idea to run improperly shielded and grounded Ethernet, frying switches and modems which is lucky for them because arcing from lightning can actually hope short distances and fry other appliances. None of this is a concern with fiber.

 

[mnewsham]

Copper is a different ballgame with egress in potentially stormy weather. I've had to help clients who thought it was a good idea to run improperly shielded and grounded Ethernet, frying switches and modems which is lucky for them because arcing from lightning can actually hope short distances and fry other appliances. None of this is a concern with fiber.

And none of that's a concern with a proper Ethernet installation running through conduit at 1/2 the cost or less than a fiber drop + fiber switches considering he probably has Ethernet switches and NICs already.

I'm not saying fiber wouldn't work I just don't see why a residential consumer would bother. None of the rest of their network would be fiber and fiber switches, NICs, and converters are very rarely sold at consumer prices. The ones that are cheaper tend to be the knock offs of the true enterprise grade fiber gear which would be beyond any normal consumer budget.

Tldr why?

 

[madoka]

I don't think I can run a line since the two houses face each other and so there's a road in-between them.

 

[madoka]

More details would give a better chance of a good answer. I would default to the Orbi...

Being a complete networking noob, I'm not sure what other details would be useful. If you could point them out, I'll be happy to try to answer them.

 

[mnewsham]

I don't think I can run a line since the two houses face each other and so there's a road in-between them.

A wireless system likely wouldn't give you what you want. At least consumer level equipment.

I'm assuming it's ~75-150 feet. Which is too short to need long range point to point radios and far enough that normal consumer WiFi equipment will likely see significant degradation in signal quality.

Your best bet would probably be 2 high end routers as close to each other as possible while still being inside their respective houses. The less distance involved the better your chances it will work without any significant interference.

This will depend on local RF conditions, if you're in a very noisy RF environment you could see the connection drop more frequently than would be acceptable.

Unifi Ac HD and similar routers would be where I'd start.

 

[JackMDS]

The solution does not entail any of the OP "Fashion" Wireless Gizmos.

You need to install in each location on two Windows that are facing one the other or on the roofs a Wireless Bridge.

In the house with the Internet source, lay a cable from the org Router to the Bridge transmitter, in the second house lay a cable from the Bridge reliever to a Wireless Router that would provide the service there.

Hardware for Bridges can be found here - https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_15?url=search-alias=electronics&field-keywords=ubiquiti+bridge&sprefix=ubiquiti+bridge,electronics,155&crid=3P27U9QRW740P

 

[mnewsham]

The solution does not entail any of the OP "Fashion" Wireless Gizmos.

You need to install in each location on two Windows that are facing one the other or on the roofs a Wireless Bridge.

In the house with the Internet source, lay a cable from the org Router to the Bridge transmitter, in the second house lay a cable from the Bridge reliever to a Wireless Router that would provide the service there.

Hardware for Bridges can be found here - https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_15?url=search-alias=electronics&field-keywords=ubiquiti+bridge&sprefix=ubiquiti+bridge,electronics,155&crid=3P27U9QRW740P

Since OP stated he is a network noob I would be careful recommending a solution that requires configuring manually. You're correct in your assessment though, as that is essentially what he needs/wants. It's just going to be expensive for a turnkey solution, or he's building it himself. The consumer router solution is the worst option for performance, but by far the easiest to configure and manage as an everyday consumer.

 

[boomhower]

With a street separating them I would go with a Ubiquiti solution. Not as simple as a bridge from best buy but superior performance and not that hard to set up.

 

[madoka]

Just as an update, I threw the dice and went with an Orbi system.

1. Netgear sucks ass. Orbi wouldn't work out of the box. I wasted two hours talking to my service provider and Netgear trying to figure out what was wrong. As I was on hold waiting to speak to Netgear's Indian CS, I logged into the internet using my cell phone and found my answer before I ever got off hold. The Orbi ships with ancient firmware which needs to be upgraded before it will connect to the net. I mean, it comes like 14 revisions behind what it should be. It's their flagship product and it won't work out of the box without doing a manual firmware upgrade using another connection since you can't connect to the internet without the upgrade! Ridiculous.

2. Once I got it connected, I bought a total of four satellites (about $1000 for the whole setup) plus the router. It connects to the other house okay. I've placed them in windows facing each other.

3. Speed is 105 Mbps next to the router and 63 Mbps in the house next door.

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[razel]

At the windows, make sure they're not behind any metal bug screens. Depending on the WiFi software if it allows you to choose channel, then use WiFi Analyser on your mobile device to try and choose the cleanest signal. Yes, Orbi is expensive. At those prices you really could have used non consumer products. Price/performance for home usage is often the main advantage of consumer devices, but @ $1k for 4 you have many choices.

Like you mentioned you are new. Glad you got this figured out. It's a learning experience.