Van Jones: Obama's Marxist "Green Jobs" Advisor

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Van Jones is Obama's "green jobs" advisor. He doesn't get much play in media but if you listen to his speeches you can get a real feel for reason for things like cap and charade. Obama and co envision a "new economy" that calls for euthanizing the existing one to divert momentum and resources to the new "green economy" that is more socially just (re-distributive). Detroit building windmills instead of cars

Jones went to Yale law school but was in LA for the King riots and joined in. He met other radicals in jail.

The East Bay Express for November 2, 2005, reported Jones said:

?I met all these young radical people of color - I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ?This is what I need to be a part of? I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary?I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th..By August, I was a communist.?

Jones went on to form a Marxist organisation called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM). STORM had ties to the South African Communist Party and had a Marxist training centers "School of Unity and Liberation" (SOUL) and an unemployed rights group-People Organized to Win Employment Rights (POWER). Jones also ran a "Cop Watch" outfit (Jones does not like police). Jones named his son after an African Marxist Amilcar Cabral.

STORM fell apart from internal bickering and Jones had a nervous breakdown. He floated around a couple years just chilling out and playing basketball. Then he got inspired to re-invent himself as an environmental "expert" with a focus on a new green economy that would "lift the boats for all". It's really the same old Marxist redistribution using warming as an excuse.

In video linked below you can hear Jones talk about how a wind turbine can replace auto manufacturing:

"Each turbine has 8000 finely machined parts - that's a car. The President wants to put Detroit back to work - not making SUV's to destroy the world but making wind turbines to help save the world - that's what your President is doing"

So Obama isn't too worried that his new clown cars won't sell because Jones and Obama see Detroit making turbines and solar panels and exporting them. They envision America being a net green energy exporter instead of a "gray economy" consumer.

At the core of the "green economy" is a focus on economic and social justice. Jones says people and communities locked out of pollution based economy are going to be locked in the the green economy first.

"The moral challenge of the century is to connect the people who most need work to the work that most needs to be done. That's way we can fight poverty and pollution at the same time."


Jones says most greenhouse gases don't come from cars but from building and especially in the cities. Jones says that "greening the ghetto" is where the green economy will start.

"The work that most needs to be done is the work of keeping the planet from cooking..

Who are the people who most need work? Green the ghetto first - most emissions are from buildings and cities so green the ghetto first. It's morally right and ecologically right. You cant green the ghetto without giving Pookie a job"

"Pookie" is the name Jones uses to designate an urban black male.

Jones says "all the jobs in the future need to be completely re-imagined". He emphasizes training for new jobs building and installing "millions of solar panels" and weatherizing buildings. He sees urban youth "putting down the handgun and picking up the caulk gun". They will become new green entrepreneurs - fighting pollution and poverty at the same time. Jones even speaks of making solar boom boxes.

Jones says Obamas sun rise logo is a sign of new green/solar age. Jones says its wrong for black people not to think of themselves as environmentalists because it's in their blood as Africans.

Jones laments a spiritual void in the world and reflects wistfully about his ancestors spiritual worship of the land. Jones says Africans love the earth and when the ancestors worshiped the trees and animals they were "speaking a high form of ecological science".

Jones tells on audience that Obama never uses the words "affirmative action" but that he got 5 billion in green jobs training funds just for them and that they have to take advantage of it. Jones says Obama is not just going to save them but "the whole world!"

In another video, Jones explains that he doesn't see "Pookie" as the real criminal when he gets busted for drugs, and laments the police are focused on him while the CEO of Walmart is a bigger criminal.

Jones thinks the society is evil because (among other things) it focuses on small criminals and lets bigger ones off. Jones says governments are "partners to the problem makers of the world - war mongers, incarcerators" etc and that they need to be partners with the problems solvers like teachers and artists etc.

Jones tells kids that the hero of the last star wars move wasn't Luke SkyWalker but Darth Vader because he overcame the evil in himself to shine through for justice in the end. Jones tell the kids they will be like Darth Vader in that they are worse for the wear in ways but they can break through all that to grab the brass ring.

Jones says the solution for polar bears and Pookie is a green economy strong enough to lift all people out of poverty and injustice - a green "New Deal".

Jones is entertaining guy. I can listen to him easy because although he is a radical he has passion and shows it - he's not icy and fake like Obama. He's still a nutter though.

He basically hates evil corporations and governments and sees them as promoting injustice for the earth and the people who are locked out of economy. He is gleeful about the destruction of the "old economy" and the redistribution of wealth in the new economy. I am certain Obama sees things exactly the same way and it's why he is intentionally breaking down the economy to clear the deck to forge new economy - a Marxist one that uses green economy and strict rules to keep values clear.

Jones says "when the rules are right - we can unleash the biggest force for technological change in history of humanity which is the American business community". Of course the"business community" has to be hijacked in the "attempt" to redistribute it's forces in the direct Obama and Jones want and Marxist's have succeeded in that yet - just the opposite.

The first video is linked below but here are some others that are insightful
into the third world Marxist mentality that permeates the core of this administration:

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipk2F2KL5RE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eooEsM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SmF3B3734E


This is most interesting video but it's in six parts. Jones describes how undergrads at Yale competed with profs for most consumption of drugs. He talks about how kids 2 blocks down street in projects are busted for drugs but not the students at Yale (and making the US evil). I don't even dispute a lot of things Jones says in isolation - it's just that he becomes the same injustice he hates - another horn on the same goat.

http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/3471
 

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Van Jones: Obama's Marxist "Greek Jobs" Advisor
How many Greek jobs did we create last month?
 

BarrySotero

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Van Jones: Obama's Marxist "Greek Jobs" Advisor
How many Greek jobs did we create last month?


No doubt not as many as Obama claims (refrains from dirty Obama Greek joke about what he is doing to economy)

Thanks for tip
 

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It's either fascism or socialism we are heading to, or a bit of both.

"He sees urban youth "putting down the handgun and picking up the caulk gun". They will become new green entrepreneurs - fighting pollution and poverty at the same time. Jones even speaks of making solar boom boxes."


This should be a Saturday Night Live skit. Too funny...
 

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I like how there are all these men and women have a "third world Marxist mentality" even though they're all incredibly well-educated from places like Yale Law School. If they're teaching Marxism at Yale Law, imagine what they teach in state schools! Quickly, fetch the pitchforks and torches, destroy the ivory towers!

Look: stop being a dumbass. Nobody is ever going to come around to your deranged point of view that all of these educated, wealthy men and women are economic Manchurian Candidates. Life isn't an Ayn Rand novel - there is no vast conspiracy to turn the United States into a nature-worshipping, technology-free mecca orchestrated by self-hating captains of industry and government. Get a damned grip on reality.
 

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Originally posted by: yllus
I like how there are all these men and women have a "third world Marxist mentality" even though they're all incredibly well-educated from places like Yale Law School. If they're teaching Marxism at Yale Law, imagine what they teach in state schools! Quickly, fetch the pitchforks and torches, destroy the ivory towers!

Look: stop being a dumbass. Nobody is ever going to come around to your deranged point of view that all of these educated, wealthy men and women are economic Manchurian Candidates. Life isn't an Ayn Rand novel - there is no vast conspiracy to turn the United States into a nature-worshipping, technology-free mecca orchestrated by self-hating captains of industry and government. Get a damned grip on reality.

I agree with part of this. The whole global warming, nature worship, etc. is just a means of wealth redistribution.
 

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"I agree with part of this. The whole global warming, nature worship, etc. is just a means of wealth redistribution."

Patrick Moore the co founder and past director of Greenpeace explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism and AGW.

"A green activist changes colors"

"A lot of those in the peace movement were anti-American and, to an extent, pro-Soviet. By virtue of their anti-Americanism, they tended to sometimes favor the communist approach. A lot of those people, a lot of those social activists, moved into the environmental movement once the peace movement was no longer relevant." Social activists, he suggests, "are now using the rhetoric of environmentalism to promote other collectivist agendas, such as class struggle -- which I personally believe is a legitimate area, but I don't believe it's legitimate to mix it up with environmentalism."

In addition to the activist influx, those who joined early on and remain in the group today have become more radicalized. Moore explains that as society adopted many of its original social and economic goals, the environmental movement "abandoned science and logic and moved to the left. Unfortunately, environmentalism is still defined by the media and by our culture as an adversarial role. If you want to remain in that adversarial role while society is adopting many of your more reasonable positions, you have to become more extreme in your positions."

So members with a more radical mind-set ascended to power -- "monkey-wrenchers, tree-spikers and boat-scuttlers," he says, many sporting fatigue uniforms and red berets. Intolerance and extremism became the norms, the Greenpeace founder continues, and the organization adopted a policy of preaching "fear not fact."

http://findarticles.com/p/arti...is_n38_v13/ai_19969858


Van Jones fits this model. One day he's a burned out "cop watch" guy and then "poof" he's an environmental "green jobs" guru chillin with Bono and testifying to Congress. Now he's coordinating with the "Urban Czar" to "green the ghetto".

I actually don't mind guys like Jones when they make stink seeing white collar guys getting off and kids going to jail - I don't want to sink the economy so it can be remade via command and control government diktats with a synthetic road map comprised of a mosaic of folklore, magical thinking and Marxist ideology. This will throw out the baby with the bathwater.
 

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Originally posted by: yllus
I like how there are all these men and women have a "third world Marxist mentality" even though they're all incredibly well-educated from places like Yale Law School. If they're teaching Marxism at Yale Law, imagine what they teach in state schools! Quickly, fetch the pitchforks and torches, destroy the ivory towers!

Look: stop being a dumbass. Nobody is ever going to come around to your deranged point of view that all of these educated, wealthy men and women are economic Manchurian Candidates. Life isn't an Ayn Rand novel - there is no vast conspiracy to turn the United States into a nature-worshipping, technology-free mecca orchestrated by self-hating captains of industry and government. Get a damned grip on reality.



Ah you touched on a key thing when you mentioed the third world mentality and the Ivy league education.

One of best articles I have read about Obama's mentality was written by an African. L.E. Ikenga sees where the Harvard and The Rev Wright blend in to each other. Ikenga explains that a lot of Africans despised colonial rule but pushed to excel at surviving in the colonizers society via education etc. Some paragraphs:

Obama, the African Colonial

By L.E. Ikenga

"My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel. Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself -- those of us who know our history -- have seen this movie before. Here are two main reasons why many Americans allowed Obama to slip through the cracks despite all of his glaring inconsistencies:


First, Obama has been living on American soil for most of his adult life. Therefore, he has been able to masquerade as one who understands and believes in American democratic ideals. But he does not. Barack Obama is intrinsically undemocratic and as his presidency plays out, this will become more obvious. Second, and most importantly, too many Americans know very little about Africa. The one-size-fits-all understanding that many Americans (both black and white) continue to have of Africa might end up bringing dire consequences for this country.

On the other hand, AC's strive to be the best at the culture that they inherited from Europe. Throughout the West, they are tops in their professions as lawyers, doctors, engineers, Ivy League professors and business moguls; this is all well and good. It's when they decide to engage us as politicians that things become messy and convoluted.


The African colonial politician (ACP) feigns repulsion towards the hegemonic paradigms of Western civilization. But at the same time, he is completely enamored of the trappings of its aristocracy or elite culture. The ACP blames and caricatures whitey to no end for all that has gone wrong in the world. He convinces the masses that various forms of African socialism are the best way for redressing the problems that European colonialism motivated in Africa. However, as opposed to really being a hard-core African Leftist who actually believes in something, the ACP uses socialist themes as a way to disguise his true ambitions: a complete power grab whereby the "will of the people" becomes completely irrelevant.


Barack Obama is all of the above. The only difference is that he is here playing (colonial) African politics as usual. "


http://www.americanthinker.com..._african_colonial.html


Obama's "dreams from his father" include quite a bit of mayhem. Obama does not seem to govern as an America as much as he seems to "rule" as a foreigner who doesn't even like America. This reminds me of Obama's book where he said he felt like a "spy" working for enemy at his first corporate job.
 

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
"I agree with part of this. The whole global warming, nature worship, etc. is just a means of wealth redistribution."

Patrick Moore the co founder and past director of Greenpeace explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism and AGW.

"A green activist changes colors"

"A lot of those in the peace movement were anti-American and, to an extent, pro-Soviet. By virtue of their anti-Americanism, they tended to sometimes favor the communist approach. A lot of those people, a lot of those social activists, moved into the environmental movement once the peace movement was no longer relevant." Social activists, he suggests, "are now using the rhetoric of environmentalism to promote other collectivist agendas, such as class struggle -- which I personally believe is a legitimate area, but I don't believe it's legitimate to mix it up with environmentalism."

In addition to the activist influx, those who joined early on and remain in the group today have become more radicalized. Moore explains that as society adopted many of its original social and economic goals, the environmental movement "abandoned science and logic and moved to the left. Unfortunately, environmentalism is still defined by the media and by our culture as an adversarial role. If you want to remain in that adversarial role while society is adopting many of your more reasonable positions, you have to become more extreme in your positions."

So members with a more radical mind-set ascended to power -- "monkey-wrenchers, tree-spikers and boat-scuttlers," he says, many sporting fatigue uniforms and red berets. Intolerance and extremism became the norms, the Greenpeace founder continues, and the organization adopted a policy of preaching "fear not fact."

http://findarticles.com/p/arti...is_n38_v13/ai_19969858


Van Jones fits this model. One day he's a burned out "cop watch" guy and then "poof" he's an environmental "green jobs" guru chillin with Bono and testifying to Congress. Now he's coordinating with the "Urban Czar" to "green the ghetto".

I actually don't mind guys like Jones when they make stink seeing white collar guys getting off and kids going to jail - I don't want to sink the economy so it can be remade via command and control government diktats with a synthetic road map comprised of a mosaic of folklore, magical thinking and Marxist ideology. This will throw out the baby with the bathwater.

EXACTLY comrade. Many people have no idea that President Mikhail S. Gorbachev created Green Cross International to facilitate communism. It's brilliant. Who wants be known as against the environment? One minute he is an avowed communist, the next, he's preaching the green movement. Back in the 1980s, Mikhail Gorbachev left Moscow for the San Francisco Presidio to run his "green" movement. Gimme me a break.


 

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Yes I know according to defectors all KGB were given copies of Sun-Tzu "The Art of War" because it contained principles of subversion and of how to weaken an enemy without a direct strike - and using their own strength against them. America's basic decency, openness and even Constitution were convoluted to sow division. Enemies of America want to tie it up like Gulliver using all sorts of rules and regulations that seem made for environment but are aimed to erode the country.

You can see this with the polar bears and the move to make them seem endangered by warming so that a factory in Arkansas can be regulated because of bears (it used to be that regulations applied to local situations like snails at construction sites etc). Cap and Trade is about money and power for some while breaking economy for others - and making America weak enough to be controlled as another card in globalist deck.

Remember what Obama said in Cairo about any world order that elevates one nation above another is doomed to failure. That kind of imposed uniformity is where Obama wants to take US. Of course other nations will not play such a stupid game and will rise over weak America. If that happens better find a nice cave.
 

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LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:

Oh? did he say that? NO, he said it was used by the commies. Not such a stretch to imagine since our own military uses it too. It's a classic warfare book
 

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Originally posted by: GeezerMan
Originally posted by: Vic
LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:

Oh? did he say that? NO, he said it was used by the commies. Not such a stretch to imagine since our own military uses it too. It's a classic warfare book

What he did say is that you're both morons. I think we've all gotten that by now.

And no shit, it's a classic warfare book. And more than that even. That was precisely my point. You have no brains, just paranoid reactionaryisms. Little do you understand how badly you discredit your own cause. It's okay though, dmcowen674 never understood that either.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: GeezerMan
Originally posted by: Vic
LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:

Oh? did he say that? NO, he said it was used by the commies. Not such a stretch to imagine since our own military uses it too. It's a classic warfare book

What he did say is that you're both morons. I think we've all gotten that by now.

And no shit, it's a classic warfare book. And more than that even. That was precisely my point. You have no brains, just paranoid reactionaryisms. Little do you understand how badly you discredit your own cause. It's okay though, dmcowen674 never understood that either.

Ah yes, Leave it to Vic and his sort to resort to name calling
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: GeezerMan
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: GeezerMan
Originally posted by: Vic
LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:

Oh? did he say that? NO, he said it was used by the commies. Not such a stretch to imagine since our own military uses it too. It's a classic warfare book

What he did say is that you're both morons. I think we've all gotten that by now.

And no shit, it's a classic warfare book. And more than that even. That was precisely my point. You have no brains, just paranoid reactionaryisms. Little do you understand how badly you discredit your own cause. It's okay though, dmcowen674 never understood that either.

Ah yes, Leave it to Vic and his sort to resort to name calling

Hey, if the suit fits.

Seriously, I wouldn't 'resort' to name calling if your arguments weren't so pathetic. Oh well, maybe someday you'll understand that codeword + namedrop != valid argument. We'll all hope for that day.
 

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I guess you consider someone like Patrick Moore, the co founder and past director of Greenpeace, who explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism as referenced above, to be a moron too. Go ahead, call him a name, say it fits him, have your laugh, and voila!...you think you won without making a valid point of your own...
 

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Originally posted by: GeezerMan
I guess you consider someone like Patrick Moore, the co founder and past director of Greenpeace, who explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism as referenced above, to be a moron too. Go ahead, call him a name, say it fits him, have your laugh, and voila!...you think you won without making a valid point of your own...

You mean that moron who supports nuclear energy because sun and wind are intermittent, the guy who would poison the future because he can't think and can't see nobody wants stored nuclear waste anywhere in their state?
 

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Barry reminds me of the guys in the '60s and '70s who thought that ODESSA was a major organization bent on inciting the USSR into going to war with Russia so that the Third Reich could be reborn as a savior of Europe. In truth, ODESSA was more of a shelter for ex-SS officers in South America and never had the capacity nor the will to actually carry this supposed threat.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: GeezerMan
I guess you consider someone like Patrick Moore, the co founder and past director of Greenpeace, who explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism as referenced above, to be a moron too. Go ahead, call him a name, say it fits him, have your laugh, and voila!...you think you won without making a valid point of your own...

You mean that moron who supports nuclear energy because sun and wind are intermittent, the guy who would poison the future because he can't think and can't see nobody wants stored nuclear waste anywhere in their state?

Golly gee, I guess you guys are right, because as you know, if you agree with someone on one topic, then they better have views that you agree 100% on, otherwise they are a moron. I guess you agree 100% with Obama. No? Then he must be a moron...
 

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Originally posted by: GeezerMan
I guess you consider someone like Patrick Moore, the co founder and past director of Greenpeace, who explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism as referenced above, to be a moron too. Go ahead, call him a name, say it fits him, have your laugh, and voila!...you think you won without making a valid point of your own...

I did make a point, and you just affirmed it even. And my point is that you and the OP are not making arguments, you're just using codewords and dropping names and expecting the rest of us to be as filled as terror as you are. Proceed tilting at windmills!
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: GeezerMan
I guess you consider someone like Patrick Moore, the co founder and past director of Greenpeace, who explained that Marxists moved into environmentalism as referenced above, to be a moron too. Go ahead, call him a name, say it fits him, have your laugh, and voila!...you think you won without making a valid point of your own...

I did make a point, and you just affirmed it even. And my point is that you and the OP are not making arguments, you're just using codewords and dropping names and expecting the rest of us to be as filled as terror as you are. Proceed tilting at windmills!

Oh I see. For people like you to read anything people like me might post, then the linked article better be about someone that no one knows at all, otherwise it's name dropping.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
LOL! now even the Sun Tzu's The Art of War is supposed communist doctrine... what a fscking moron! :p :roll:

Indeed, one of us is a moron and according to a KGB defector it's you. For the non morons here I'll link a video of Yuri Brezmenov - a KGB defector who gave lectures in the early 80's.

Brezmenov explained that all students trained by KGB and in military academies were given copies of Sun Tzu because it was considered a masterpiece of subversion principles. At 5:40 into video he says (paraphrasing) that:

"To implement state policy in a war like manner is inefficient. The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in your enemies country until his perception of reality is so screwed up that he does not perceive you as an enemy and that your system looks to your enemy as a feasible alternative (better red than dead). The ultimate goal is to take enemy without a single shot being fired...

We rarely need to use guns to kill people and take their country. The cleanest way is to blackmail, pervert, bribe, lie and intimidate the politicians and the media and they will destabilize and disunify their own country for us. Then all we have left to do is to arm the procommunist or simply criminal factions and we have a coup and another "liberated" country. As neat as that."

He is describing the foundation of the culture war and political correctness - as exerted by media and schools that were targeted by subversion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0Id3BLFco



Brezmenov wrote more about Sun Tzu in his "Love Letter to America"


"The art of duping the masses into doing things to their own disadvantage and making them believe it is "the will of people" is as ancient as mankind itself.

The essence of subversion is best expressed in the famous Marxist slogan, (if you substitute "proletarians" for a more appropriate word): "Useful idiots of the world UNITE!? To achieve the desired effect, the subverter must first make idiots out of normal people, and DIVIDE them, before turning the people into a homogenized mass of useful and united idiots. Tanks and missiles may or may not be needed at final stage. For the time being they are simply the means of terrorizing people into inaction and submission.

500 years before Christ, the Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu formulated the principle of subversion this way:

1. Cover with ridicule all of the valid traditions in your opponent's country.
2. Implicate their leaders in criminal affairs and turn them over to the scorn of their populace at the right time;
3. Disrupt the work of their government by every means;
4. Do not shun the aid of the lowest and most despicable individuals of your enemy's country.
5. Spread disunity and dispute among the citizens.
6. Turn the young against the old.
7. Be generous with promises and rewards to collaborators and accomplices."



http://uselessdissident.blogsp...-america-part-one.html


A great interview of Brezmenov is also on YouTube. He explains his background and has lots of photos from KGB days (he worked subversion in India). He's the real deal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otxHEOdvoaM