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Value DDR3 board + Proc, AMD or Intel?

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BallaTheFeared

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For gaming and HTPC, cheap but effective.

Also looking for something that is capable of staying dead silent with a zalman 9500 + low rpm/silent 120mm case fan.

Not looking to spend much, whats the best deal I can get for $100-200?


Edit: In store deals are not an option, no MC or Frys where I am, unless someone wants to take my money and spend me a bundle deal for a little compensation of course!
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
For gaming and HTPC, cheap but effective.

Also looking for something that is capable of staying dead silent with a zalman 9300 + low rpm/silent 120mm case fan.

Not looking to spend much, whats the best deal I can get for $100-200?
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There's a SUPER sale going on an intel G620 right now. in Hot deals.

that' is the best bang for buck processor. the g530 is also very good but not on sale right now.

Absolutely stay away from AMD, they have No desktop CPUs that's even remotely competitive at ANY price range.

You may have to wait a week or two for the ECS $15 H61 chipset motherboard to come back in stock at newegg. But, it's sure to come back, because they've sold like a bajillion.

So in the end you'll be looking at

G620
ECS H61
ATI 6570 1gb ddr3, <- cheap and very good video playback quality
8gb ram, any brand doesn't matter.
400watt power supply
Coolermaster 212+ for like $10

Cheap bitfenix case $30-40
 
Depending on application

Single threaded, G620 v 555 @ 4ghz, its either a tie, or G620 wins (without OC, G620 wins)

Multi-threaded, 555 wins b/c of 4 cores (only if you unlock the 555 to 4 cores/ overclock it)

gaming though, few use more than 4 cores... a lot still use 2 ... since G620 has higher IPC, gaming wise, its a toss up b/c G620 and 555

since you use it for HTPC/light gaming, the G620 works for HTPC and light gaming (you will have problems with GTA IV of course, since that game is poorly coded and wants more cores... but stuff like TF2, sure)

and since a 555 @ 4ghz will suck so much power(77W load for G620, 180W for 555 @ 4ghz), i'd rather get the G620 since its on sale now,

and you know you have a valid upgrade path to a i5/i7 in future(drop into mobo... the 555, you might be able to upgrade to an x6, but i5 is way better for future upgrade option)

(some benchmarks, and power consumption)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4524/...-review-pentium-g850-g840-g620-g620t-tested/3




if you really want to spend $200, an i3 2100 + mobo (better IGP than G620) might save you the money for a discrete card (if you check all your games run fine on the HD3000.... or someone could chime in with llano (if you don't want/need to get a dedicated card for gaming)... i'm not too familiar with the llano line
 
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paperwastage said:
Depending on application

Single threaded, G620 v 555 @ 4ghz, its either a tie, or G620 wins (without OC, G620 wins)

Multi-threaded, 555 wins b/c of 4 cores

gaming though, few use more than 4 cores... a lot still use 2 ... since G620 has higher IPC, gaming wise, its a toss up b/c G620 and 555

since you use it for HTPC/light gaming, the G620 works for HTPC and light gaming (you will have problems with GTA IV of course, since that game is poorly coded and wants more cores... but stuff like TF2, sure)

and since a 555 @ 4ghz will suck so much power(77W load for G620, 180W for 555 @ 4ghz), i'd rather get the G620 since its on sale now,

and you know you have a valid upgrade path to a i5/i7 in future(drop into mobo... the 555, you might be able to upgrade to an x6, but i5 is way better for future upgrade option)

(some benchmarks, and power consumption)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4524/...-review-pentium-g850-g840-g620-g620t-tested/3




if you really want to spend $200, an i3 2100 + mobo (better IGP than G620) might save you the money for a discrete card (if you check all your games run fine on the HD3000.... or someone could chime in with llano (if you don't want/need to get a dedicated card for gaming)... i'm not too familiar with the llano line
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NO NO NO No NOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

AMD is NOT an option, just stop that line of thought.

AMD desktop is an absolute dead stick right now.

and the Overclocked argument is fickle. You need good motherboards for long term overclock reliability.

In this price bracket, there's not a single motherboard that's remotely overclock worthy.

There's a good chance it'll crash and burn in only a year, and you're out another 100 bux to get another shitty board. 😕

Do not spend $200 is what I'm saying.

get the g620 for $55
and the ecs when it comes back for $15

Save the rest.
 
For up to $200 i will suggest the following.

AMD FX-4100 = $109,99

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 = $79,99

Total = $189,99

You can play with OC the CPU, Memory, Chipset and have all the new features like USB-3, UEFI BIOS and CrossFire.

For the price i believe it is the best deal.
 
AtenRa said:
For up to $200 i will suggest the following.

AMD FX-4100 = $109,99

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 = $79,99

Total = $189,99

You can play with OC the CPU, Memory, Chipset and have all the new features like USB-3, UEFI BIOS and CrossFire.

For the price i believe it is the best deal.
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AMD FX-4100 = GARBAGE

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 = GARBAGE

The overclock on that cpu tops out at 4.4ghz, where it will still be a challenge to run most games.

The intel 620 a $55 cpu, will decimate the 4100 in any cpu intensive game.

That Asrock board is absolute garbage and unreliable.

AtenRa is also composed of pure evil. Do not listen to this kid. :twisted:

USB-3 is useless, because the port is not ubiquitous

UEFI is also pointless, because it has no tangible benefit for most users, it's one of those "in name only" things.

Crossfire will be the biggest waste of money on an AMD FX based CPU,

AMD CPUs are already severely bottlenecking SINGLE gpu performance. Putting any DUAL GPU, SLI, CFX, with any AMD CPU is going "FULL-RETARD"


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Don Karnage said:
Balla just threw amd out there not to seem biased. Everyone knows hes going Intel 😉
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I'm posting from an AMD machine right now 😎

The 555 is a dual core.

Aten isn't the 4100 a dual core with HT? I don't really care for HT from either camp.

Wouldn't the 955 be a better deal than the 4100 for $90?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113007

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I got a system with a Phenom II 555 and a 470 for $40, but it came with a busted board with 2x1GB DDR2, it's not doing that well in a lot of the things I'm trying to use it for and I think it's because of the ram. Two of the ram slots simply don't work, dual channel isn't an option, nor is reusing this ram while adding more.

I have extra DDR3, so I'm thinking my options are:

Buy an AMD cpu and board.

Buy a DDR3 board only reuse 555.

Buy an Intel chip and board.
 
I would dismiss the FX-4100 bulldozer too, but the Llanos are a different matter.
Something like the $105 AMD A6-3670K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106002
plus
$50 BIOSTAR A75MG FM1 AMD A75

Llano may be a bit slow at stock, but when overclocked Stars is far faster than Bulldozer, it zips power when idling and it's iGPU is a lot better than Intel's. There are cheaper Llano's too but the 'K's mean overclock without going FSB crazy.
 
Makeup you're mine ballsack


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Gaming is dominated by content that will run on a llano A8 and trinity. Sims, WoW, LoL, Diablo. You guys seem to be in denial of that fact. So you really have to know what games the OP is playing before you can say that an AMD is not a viable option. There are no deals on AMD llano/trinity that I can find at the moment, but that may change in an instant. If it does it would be foolish not to consider it just because of a 23 second super pi time.
 
Yeah, if Trinity were out, I would consider that in a heartbeat.



Boris - C'mon man, AMD isn't that bad.
 
Rvenger said:
Yeah, if Trinity were out, I would consider that in a heartbeat.



Boris - C'mon man, AMD isn't that bad.
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You are right.....the AMD chips are not that bad, having built a system recently around an FX 4100 myself.

BUT.......having that FX 4100 system sitting side by side with a G620 system, and both are as identically set up as possible, the Intel system just felt snappier, smoother, quicker.

Whether it truly was or not, the Intel system definitely booted quicker, opened applications faster....and it was noticeable. I'm now on my fifth G620 system and I sell them almost as fast as I can build them. The AMD system....well, let's just say it took a while to move. Unfortunately, because the onboard graphics on the AMD system are much better than the Intel system. But, out in the world, AMD just isn't in favor right now. Just the reality of the situation.
 
The G620 is also the most power efficient by a long shot. Meanign less heat=less noise as the OP also asked for. Not to mention. The G620 is also the cheapest.

Only fools buy AMD.

And even recommending a FX-4100. Lol....no wonder who did that 🙄


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Meghan54 said:
You are right.....the AMD chips are not that bad, having built a system recently around an FX 4100 myself.

BUT.......having that FX 4100 system sitting side by side with a G620 system, and both are as identically set up as possible, the Intel system just felt snappier, smoother, quicker.

Whether it truly was or not, the Intel system definitely booted quicker, opened applications faster....and it was noticeable. I'm now on my fifth G620 system and I sell them almost as fast as I can build them. The AMD system....well, let's just say it took a while to move. Unfortunately, because the onboard graphics on the AMD system are much better than the Intel system. But, out in the world, AMD just isn't in favor right now. Just the reality of the situation.
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I can certainly agree. My G530 felt snappy like a 2500k @ stock on standard applications. I noticed it started to choke during multitasking while transferring files though. In multithreaded situations only is where you will see the FX4100 come out ahead.
 
Where does an overclocked 555 stand in all of this, how does it compare to the G620?

What's going to give me the best performance per dollar right now in gaming with some minor background tasks running, like pandora, skype, vent?


To the F/S section!

Edit:

Back nothing good there!
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
Where does an overclocked 555 stand in all of this, how does it compare to the G620?

What's going to give me the best performance per dollar right now in gaming with some minor background tasks running, like pandora, skype, vent?


To the F/S section!
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A cheapo SB i3 with an H6x/H7x motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115077

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138344

With MIR you're under $200 and it's better than any Pentium or AMD chips at that price for gaming.

I'm assuming you've got a discrete GPU to add? Because if you don't them maybe you should look into buying a Llano-based build.
 
I think soon-ish? Within the next month I believe. Although that might be only to OEMs.

The benefits of IB>SB aren't worth waiting for if you're going to be gaming with a discrete GPU, especially on the desktop where HD2000, HD3000 and HD4000 all suck for gaming. The price of the SB chips isn't likely to decrease much, if it decreases at all, because Intel doesn't drop the price on their older gen chips.

Buy the i3 SB and mobo now 🙂
 
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