"Value" DDR2

[xtknight]

I would like to know how far I could push an E6300 with value-ish DDR2 RAM. Does anyone off the top of their head remember a review that measured this?

And, if the DDR2 hit a clock ceiling, could I not just use a "divider" to constrict memory bandwidth but to allow OC of the CPU? Do all boards have memory dividers and how are they usually labeled in the BIOS?

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: xtknightDo all boards have memory dividers and how are they usually labeled in the BIOS?

FYI, the Gigabyte DS3 does not have dividers yet, so it would not be the best choice for ValueRAM.

 

[Aluvus]

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=17

 

[broly8877]

Sweet, didn't know my $100 PQI RAM was capable of such results.

 

[xtknight]

Thanks. I had seen that link but are there any benchmark results? I mean, won't increasing the timing negate the clock speed increase? I just don't have a feel for how DDR2 is like I do with DDR. What would be the equivalent of 2-2-2-5 in the DDR2 world?

 

[Farmer]

A major concern. DDR2-1066 and similar RAM is sky high in price ($400 for 2 gigs?!); kinda nullifies the savings on the processor.

 

[broly8877]

That's why you don't buy DDR2-1066+ ;p

Decent DDR2-800 can hit near that.

 

[harpoon84]

It depends how hard you want to push the E6300.

For example:
7x400 2.8GHz = RAM @ DDR2-800
7x450 3.15GHz = RAM @ DDR2-900
7x500 - 3.5GHz = RAM @ DDR2-1000

As Anandtechs buying guide points out even value DDR2 can reach 800MHz at decent timings without problems. So at least 400FSB 2.8GHz is in the bag, mobo permitting (grab a Gigabyte DS3, they can achieve good FSBs).

 

[Zebo]

No reason to go value with deals like this partner
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[gobucks]

Originally posted by: Zebo
No reason to go value with deals like this partner
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agreed, just ordered it myself. of course it's backordered, but then so is my e6400, so i'm not too upset about it. OCZ seems to be having a fire sale on PC6400 though, i've seen several kits on newegg for $150-160 after rebate, so I'd jump on one of those rather than getting budget ram.

 

[tcG]

Originally posted by: harpoon84
It depends how hard you want to push the E6300.

For example:
7x400 2.8GHz = RAM @ DDR2-800
7x450 3.15GHz = RAM @ DDR2-900
7x500 - 3.5GHz = RAM @ DDR2-1000

As Anandtechs buying guide points out even value DDR2 can reach 800MHz at decent timings without problems. So at least 400FSB 2.8GHz is in the bag, mobo permitting (grab a Gigabyte DS3, they can achieve good FSBs).

Intel has always used a "quad data rate" or " quad pumped" bus
...to send four bits of data on every clock cycle
Intels memory controller changes this to down to a "dual data rate" to work with "DDR" RAM
they use a multi that speeds the actual MHz speed up from a slower core clock to the faster speed of the RAM so that it can handle the data faster as its coming in at "4X" and going out to the RAM at "2X"
this is why for best performance Intels have the RAM running at a higher speed than the core clock, and not 1:1 so that there isn't a bottleneck at the memory controller
and why they show a greater performance gain from dual channel memory mode and larger cache sizes...

...so none of those examples (all being 1:1) are indicitive of, well... anything.

 

[Kwint Sommer]

I'm rather pissed at outpost.com, I order that RAM as well back when it had $60 in rebates and was instock. 14 hours later they changed "same day" to "call" and then notified me that it is back-ordered. I realize that it is unreasonable to ask for live inventory but updates every 6 hours or warnings about limited supply would be nice. By the way, the rebate has to be post marked 14 days after purchase and that means that we may not get the rebate if they drag this out long enough. It is still a great value for RAM has been noted as doing 1000mhz and higher...but I'm cancelling if they don't ship it by the 6th.


08-02-06
After a very strongly (it really wasn't rude) worded email my RAM shipped. Seriously, it was less than 24 hours after the letter and they haven't responded to the letter yet, haven't even aknowledged it, so I guess they just made sure I was one of the first to get the RAM. Regardless, my RAM shipped within 48 hours, ironically, despite having been "same day" when ordered then back-ordered it shipped in a reasonable period of time so I guess I'll keep using these guys. Just watch out for incorrect stock-quotes but we've all been getting those lately over Conroe.

 

[xtknight]

Interesting...I'll probably get that OCZ but I do have a few months yet. Nice, I had no idea I could get to 2.8 GHz with DDR2-800. :shocked: I probably will grab the DS3 then unless lack of dividers is a problem?

 

[Pabster]

Obviously, the higher end Conroe you get, the less important the RAM becomes. Unless you're reaching for 4GHz+ with some phase or water.

I don't see the logic in spending $450 for a couple sticks of RAM and skimping by on a $200 processor.

 

[Roy2001]

Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
I'm rather pissed at outpost.com, I order that RAM as well back when it had $60 in rebates and was instock. 14 hours later they changed "same day" to "call" and then notified me that it is back-ordered. ......

08-02-06
After a very strongly (it really wasn't rude) worded email my RAM shipped. .......

Calm down and have some patience with online shopping. I also ordered one set, backordered for one day and it get shipped.