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Valet gets pwned

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
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Cliffs:
Guy leaves Gallardo out infront of a restraunt.
Valet takes it for a 15 minute drive.
Guy finds out.
Valet brags about it.
Tearing apart ensues.
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That's funny...

I heard it you tip them poor they change all your radio stations. Those car detailing places are simlar. I heard they steal all the change from your cup holders....
 
Bwahahaha the best part is when they find out where he lives/works and call up his boss. I want to know if they really did get him in trouble.
 
Maybe I am guilty of being excessively laid-back, but it seems to me if you get that incensed about someone driving your car for 15 minutes, you can't really afford the car and/or take yourself way too seriously, and in either case you shouldn't entrust it to a valet in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Maybe I am guilty of being excessively laid-back, but it seems to me if you get that incensed about someone driving your car for 15 minutes, you can't really afford the car and/or take yourself way too seriously, and in either case you shouldn't entrust it to a valet in the first place.
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It's a bit pretentious to assume way beyond what's presented.
 
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: DonVito
Maybe I am guilty of being excessively laid-back, but it seems to me if you get that incensed about someone driving your car for 15 minutes, you can't really afford the car and/or take yourself way too seriously, and in either case you shouldn't entrust it to a valet in the first place.
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It's a bit pretentious to assume way beyond what's presented.
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I don't really understand what you mean.

I understand we don't know whether the car's owner was that upset about this test drive, but that entire forum obviously is. To me, a Gallardo is a very nice car, but a car nevertheless. It's not priceless, and it's not irreplaceable. As I said, if the car is THAT big a deal to you (or if it really is a historically significant and/or irreplaceable car), why hand it over to a valet in the first place? I don't think a guy who owns, say, a Bugatti Royale is going to hand over the keys (do those even have keys?) to a 20-year-old being paid $7 an hour.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't really understand what you mean.

I understand we don't know whether the car's owner was that upset about this test drive, but that entire forum obviously is. To me, a Gallardo is a very nice car, but a car nevertheless. It's not priceless, and it's not irreplaceable. As I said, if the car is THAT big a deal to you (or if it really is a historically significant and/or irreplaceable car), why hand it over to a valet in the first place? I don't think a guy who owns, say, a Bugatti Royale is going to hand over the keys (do those even have keys?) to a 20-year-old being paid $7 an hour.
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So you think that they do all thier own maintenance too? When they drop thier car off at the dealer, the person who's going to get called up to do it is likely to be in thier '20s.
 
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

So you think that they do all thier own maintenance too? When they drop thier car off at the dealer, the person who's going to get called up to do it is likely to be in thier '20s.
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Huh? There really are no dealers that could service a Bugatti Royale or car of that ilk - all the service is done (to the extent priceless cars like that are ever driven) by astronomically expensive old-world artisans. There probably aren't 200 people in the world who have ever worked on a Royale.

My point isn't that it is dumb to give your car to a valet - just the opposite. My point is that if you are SO protective of your car that you're irate about someone driving it for 15 minutes, you either have a major attitude problem or a car you can't truly afford. I don't see the big deal about this valet test-driving the car, and I think the people who went out of their way to get him fired are busybodies.
 
Just wow at that forum. Thats like if all of us at ATOT tried to get in touch with the police about that one post where the guy ran away from the cops on the highway.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
My point isn't that it is dumb to give your car to a valet - just the opposite. My point is that if you are SO protective of your car that you're irate about someone driving it for 15 minutes, you either have a major attitude problem or a car you can't truly afford. I don't see the big deal about this valet test-driving the car, and I think the people who went out of their way to get him fired are busybodies.
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There is a trust issue here. People grudgingly hand over their keys to a stranger to park there car. Just because the owner can afford to get it fixed doesn't mean he should let any dipshit take it for a spin. Besides, taking a $150k vehicle for a joyride is irresponsible. He could have gotten into an accident and injured himself or others.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: DonVito
Maybe I am guilty of being excessively laid-back, but it seems to me if you get that incensed about someone driving your car for 15 minutes, you can't really afford the car and/or take yourself way too seriously, and in either case you shouldn't entrust it to a valet in the first place.
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It's a bit pretentious to assume way beyond what's presented.
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I don't really understand what you mean.

I understand we don't know whether the car's owner was that upset about this test drive, but that entire forum obviously is. To me, a Gallardo is a very nice car, but a car nevertheless. It's not priceless, and it's not irreplaceable. As I said, if the car is THAT big a deal to you (or if it really is a historically significant and/or irreplaceable car), why hand it over to a valet in the first place? I don't think a guy who owns, say, a Bugatti Royale is going to hand over the keys (do those even have keys?) to a 20-year-old being paid $7 an hour.
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WTF are they going to do park it themselves? Where do you draw the line....say it was a production vehicle by Bugatti, the Veyron. It's replaceable, but also a nice million+. It's just a car, yes.

1st off the valet is there to do a job, not joyride cars. I don't care what the car is worth chances are the joyride involves vehicle abuse. Most places that cater to higher end crowds screen their valets very well and usually have a manager overseeing the operation.

You are trying to say if one is rich that they should just accept it when others take advantage of them. That is BS.

 
Originally posted by: alkemyst

WTF are they going to do park it themselves? Where do you draw the line....say it was a production vehicle by Bugatti, the Veyron. It's replaceable, but also a nice million+. It's just a car, yes.

1st off the valet is there to do a job, not joyride cars. I don't care what the car is worth chances are the joyride involves vehicle abuse. Most places that cater to higher end crowds screen their valets very well and usually have a manager overseeing the operation.

You are trying to say if one is rich that they should just accept it when others take advantage of them. That is BS.
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Cry me a river. I can honestly say that if I could afford a Veyron, I would want to share the experience with others, and I can't imagine being pissed at a 20-year-old who took it for a test drive, so long as he didn't crash it. I just don't understand the outrage based on a simple test drive.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: alkemyst

WTF are they going to do park it themselves? Where do you draw the line....say it was a production vehicle by Bugatti, the Veyron. It's replaceable, but also a nice million+. It's just a car, yes.

1st off the valet is there to do a job, not joyride cars. I don't care what the car is worth chances are the joyride involves vehicle abuse. Most places that cater to higher end crowds screen their valets very well and usually have a manager overseeing the operation.

You are trying to say if one is rich that they should just accept it when others take advantage of them. That is BS.
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Cry me a river. I can honestly say that if I could afford a Veyron, I would want to share the experience with others, and I can't imagine being pissed at a 20-year-old who took it for a test drive, so long as he didn't crash it. I just don't understand the outrage based on a simple test drive.
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Ok then, let some little kid steal your car and let him joyride it too without your permission, same thing right??? I guess some people have no respect for other's property cus I sure as hell would kick some ass if I knew that the valet or the person that was working on my car took it out for a joyride.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84

Ok then, let some little kid steal your car and let him joyride it too without your permission, same thing right??? I guess some people have no respect for other's property cus I sure as hell would kick some ass if I knew that the valet or the person that was working on my car took it out for a joyride.
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No, it's not the same thing, at least IMO. Actually I have had my car (an Integra GS-R sedan) stolen and stripped, and I wasn't angry, largely because I was sick of the car, but that's a story for another day. The difference is that you hand your keys to a valet with full knowledge he will drive it. I'm not saying a test drive is an accepted part of using valets, but a test drive that does no harm to the car also does no harm to the owner. Obviously if the valet crashes the car into a tree, he and the restaurant or hotel that employs him will have to pay a price for it, but a test drive just doesn't strike me as any big deal.

Just out of curiosity (and I am not looking to make fun), what kind of car do you drive? I'm curious what you're so protective of.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito

Cry me a river. I can honestly say that if I could afford a Veyron, I would want to share the experience with others, and I can't imagine being pissed at a 20-year-old who took it for a test drive, so long as he didn't crash it. I just don't understand the outrage based on a simple test drive.
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I am not sure what economic background you come from, but it's clear you probably don't have much of the experiences those perhaps even upper middle class and above run into with those that have not. It seems you are projecting what you'd like the world to be like and perhaps hoping one day someone decides to knock on your front door hand you the keys to their Ferrari along with the keys to their summer home in the Hamptons along with a check for $250k and says have a nice time.

The more money and possessions you have the more the average and below guy assumes you should share them or even gets pissed and wants to damage your items. Yet at the same time most of these average folks do not want to do any sharing themselves and exploit the system to get out of doing their share. There are also people like this that are very well off, but just jealous.

There was actually an employee that worked somewhere below my father in his food chain. The guy got all bend out of shape at the boat docks over my father's boat vs his and what does my dad do that is so important blah blah blah.

Now in this story it's hard to say what really happened...either way the valet was wrong. On first read one gets the feeling he took the car out for 15mins on a joyride....later the OP says the ride wasn't 15mins. He states he simply drove it up the garage and back, but the owner came down 15 mins after that and the engine was still warm so they knew the car was driven.

 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: DonVito

Cry me a river. I can honestly say that if I could afford a Veyron, I would want to share the experience with others, and I can't imagine being pissed at a 20-year-old who took it for a test drive, so long as he didn't crash it. I just don't understand the outrage based on a simple test drive.
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I am not sure what economic background you come from, but it's clear you probably don't have much of the experiences those perhaps even upper middle class and above run into with those that have not. It seems you are projecting what you'd like the world to be like and perhaps hoping one day someone decides to knock on your front door hand you the keys to their Ferrari along with the keys to their summer home in the Hamptons along with a check for $250k and says have a nice time.

The more money and possessions you have the more the average and below guy assumes you should share them or even gets pissed and wants to damage your items. Yet at the same time most of these average folks do not want to do any sharing themselves and exploit the system to get out of doing their share. There are also people like this that are very well off, but just jealous.

There was actually an employee that worked somewhere below my father in his food chain. The guy got all bend out of shape at the boat docks over my father's boat vs his and what does my dad do that is so important blah blah blah.

Now in this story it's hard to say what really happened...either way the valet was wrong. On first read one gets the feeling he took the car out for 15mins on a joyride....later the OP says the ride wasn't 15mins. He states he simply drove it up the garage and back, but the owner came down 15 mins after that and the engine was still warm so they knew the car was driven.
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I don't really understand your post, but for whatever it's worth, my father and stepmother live in a big, beautiful ~$3M house on the beach on eastern Long Island, and have guests pretty much every weekend, all year, all of whom are free to use their cars, boat, etc. They normally don't lock their cars, actually. They've been doing this since they moved into the house, 16 years ago, and nobody has ever broken anything.

As I've said repeatedly, I don't think a person who is that protective of a car should be handing the keys over to anyone. I am not saying the Lambo owner has no right to be annoyed about his car being borrowed, I just think he needs to keep things in perspective - this is just a car we're talking about, and as it happens it's a car that is meant to be driven aggressively.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't really understand your post, but for whatever it's worth, my father and stepmother live in a big, beautiful ~$3M house on the beach on eastern Long Island, and have guests pretty much every weekend, all year, all of whom are free to use their cars, boat, etc. They normally don't lock their cars, actually. They've been doing this since they moved into the house, 16 years ago, and nobody has ever broken anything.

As I've said repeatedly, I don't think a person who is that protective of a car should be handing the keys over to anyone. I am not saying the Lambo owner has no right to be annoyed about his car being borrowed, I just think he needs to keep things in perspective - this is just a car we're talking about, and as it happens it's a car that is meant to be driven aggressively.
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If you want to really prove your theory about mom and dad, post up there is free access to their stuff on forums and see how they fare.

Having guests over to use your belongings is normal. Having a valet take liberty to do so or a stranger on the street is not.

A car designed to be driven aggressively still requires care in doing so. The care is usually not known by someone just jumping in.

At the same time you have more people buying these cars to gingerly use them from time to time as investments/collectables.

IMHO a car is a poor investment, but to some it's a hobby.
 
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