Vaccinated Children Have 2 to 5 Times More Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated

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Mark R

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Do you have anything besides your opinion that can refute and/or dispute the study?

There are plenty of guides and methods for assessing studies as to their likely validity.

This study has several huge problems:
1. The data is self-reported with no standardisation. This type of data collection is known to be highly unreliable - the technical term is "biased". (In the KIGGS study used as a control, the questionnaires were standardised by interviews, where answers were explained, so that a researcher double checked that the correct box had been checked, etc. and that the question or answer hadn't been misunderstood)
2. There is no attempt to check that their study group can be compared to the reference group. Normally, you would check that the sex mix, age, socioeconomic class, schooling, health history (prematurity, etc.) and more were all equally represented in test group and control. Without this, you can't tell if any differences you are seeing come from what you are manipulating "in this case, self-reported vaccination" or from some confounding factor. This is a huge problem in this study, as they openly admit that their age distribution is not even remotely comparable to the reference group. The response of the immune system changes as it grows, matures and becomes more experienced, so that young children (under about 4) have a very different immune response to older children and adults (that's why children get totally different infections to adults). That in itself, should be a big red flag for a study that purports to measure immune activity in children.
3. The population under study is a self-selected sub-group. This, also, is cause for concern as this method of selection often brings with it obscure confounding factors and strong bias.

There are a number of other problems, but those are the scientific ones that just stand out to me.
 

Doboji

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lol.. the study is based on parents filling out an "Internet questionnaire" and is funded by google ads...

Was this one of those Facebook surveys? Absolutely silly.. made me giggle that they would actually present this as evidence.
 

tydas

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Nice work, vaccination deniers:

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health...rgest-US-measles-outbreak-in-years/50852098/1

Keep at it and you can bring back the good old days:
"Before the vaccine became available in the 1960s, some three to four million people contracted measles every year. Of those, 48,000 were hospitalized, 1,000 were permanently disabled and about 500 died, the CDC said."

Lets look at the bright side...let the dummies not vacciante themselves and maybe we will be rid of them in a generation or two...
 

dank69

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Lets look at the bright side...let the dummies not vacciante themselves and maybe we will be rid of them in a generation or two...
As has been explained in this thread already, there is much more to it than that.
 

Ninjahedge

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That many people not being inoculated become a burden on society when they become sick.

Also, the more a disease infects, the more generations it goes through, the more IMPROPER care regimens it goes through, the more likely a strain evolves, oh, I am sorry, is Intelligently Designed, to circumvent our protective measures and become a threat to us all (just look at the antibiotic resistant bacteria, They did not become resistant just by being near penicillin....).

But all this logic does not matter when you have unprovable cherry-picked "evidence" and an emotional hangup on the subject.