Vacation in Aspen

[Dear Summer]

nvm

 

[Matthiasa]

Not a hiring manager... but some advise based on what the CEO of where I work said.
Someone being good based on interviewing is total luck, one simply can't tell.
There is however a strong correlation to how they do with testing and how they actually perform.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

The manager doesn't want apologies, he doesn't want a rising young 'star' and, he doesn't want an overconfident know it all. He wants someone who puts their head down and does the work, he wants someone who doesn't make the same mistake twice and, he wants someone who cares more about the task at hand than appearances. Got it?

 

[kranky]

I would not resent it and I would not expect apologies. In that situation I want to do everything I can to make this guy succeed because that makes both of us look good.

However, if the new hire has some insight into how to make things better, I would want to hear it.

 

[PowerEngineer]

Pretty much what Magnus said...

A manager with 20 years of hiring experience is going to know that some of hiring decisions will work out and others will not; he/she isn't going to take it personally, maybe as a learning experience for him/her.

I don't know what business you're in, but I expect that a new grad without previous work experience will take at least six months to show promise and twelve months to really be a productive member of a team.

Perhaps you should acknowledge your disappointment in your performance to date (at least to yourself) and rededicate yourself to climbing that "learning curve" in front of you.

Good luck!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Some work out and some don't. You have to keep in mind that most new hires, especially those straight out of college, are expected to come in overconfident, fearless, etc. They'll eventually get knocked down, lose their confidence, and have to find a way to get back up. What happens next is whether you know if it's going to work out or not.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

generally 5-10% of the new hire class washes out within the first 12-16 months. Some voluntarily term and know the career path is not for them, others have to be pushed out the door by way of involuntary terminations.

We don't beat ourselves up over bad hires, only when we keep them too long in thinking we can train & mentor them. Spending an extra 6-months of effort on someone that we term anyway is a waste of time & effort - time better spent interviewing and training other new hires.

 

[Dear Summer]

I'm going to be working closely with them tomorrow and I feel a little uncomfortable in this situation. I think it will be impossible to fix my bad first impression, but I have to do what I have to do and earn money.

 

[Destiny]

I'm going to be working closely with them tomorrow and I feel a little uncomfortable in this situation. I think it will be impossible to fix my bad first impression, but I have to do what I have to do and earn money.

Are you there to "earn money" or are you there to "grow?"

Form the sound of the interview, you sold them on "personal growth" and "contributing" to company as you grow and learn from your employment - because I ask questions that relate to those two things in interview questions to all my potential hires in their interviews.

You have to look forward coming to work, you have to be excited about getting promoted not just for more money - but for taking more responsilibites to continue to become stronger in your profession.

Because if you were my employee, six months is too long - I would tell you to go find something else that you are passionate about and don't waste any more of my time and money. If you want to stay - do your job and contribute to the company instead of sucking hard earned revenue that your employers and team members personally worked their butt off to pay you...

You first post was exactly what happened in my past 6 interviews that I hired = 4 I fired because they didn't live up to their internview and only two delivered... It is part of business... it is part of life...

 

[chusteczka]

You are perfectly capable of doing your job. What you need to do is focus, work hard, and get it done.

First, a person learns how to do their job.
Second, a person learns how to do the job with greater quality.
Third, it is time to learn to do the job faster.

 

[JS80]

What kind of job is this

 

[Dear Summer]

What kind of job is this

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Finance
ECM group

 

[arkcom]

You first post was exactly what happened in my past 6 interviews that I hired = 4 I fired because they didn't live up to their internview and only two delivered... It is part of business... it is part of life...

Sounds like you're the one failing to do your job, rather than them.

 

[Destiny]

Sounds like you're the one failing to do your job, rather than them.

No... that is not the case... You'd be surprised how many pretenders are out there. These rounds of interviews have been a little different since the recession - people are applying for anything and not what their passion is or what they really want to do. They practice interviews to get the job or been to so many interviews already they know how to answer my question... and some college grads seem to think they are "entitled." Some are half assing it collecting paychecks while they continue to search for what they really want and not really contributing in to the company....

Two former hires told me they can do photoshop really well and when I gave them a "moderate difficult" photoshop project they struggeled...

 

[Destiny]

I'm going to be working closely with them tomorrow and I feel a little uncomfortable in this situation. I think it will be impossible to fix my bad first impression, but I have to do what I have to do and earn money.

Bad first impression is the past and don't dwell on it or let it affect you... just focus on the present and make yourself more valuable for the company and for the future - it is never too late to "WOW" them and improve... unless they already given you the boot...

 

[Matthiasa]

No... that is not the case... You'd be surprised how many pretenders are out there. These rounds of interviews have been a little different since the recession - people are applying for anything and not what their passion is or what they really want to do. They practice interviews to get the job or been to so many interviews already they know how to answer my question... and some college grads seem to think they are "entitled." Some are half assing it collecting paychecks while they continue to search for what they really want and not really contributing in to the company....

Two former hires told me they can do photoshop really well and when I gave them a "moderate difficult" photoshop project they struggeled...

Tests... use them.
They work a lot better then the guessing your doing now.
The example you gave would have been stupidly easy to catch.
Just make sure to switch the stuff up often enough that people don't start memorizing the tasks.