Utah unveils its Anti-illegal immigration bill

[Orignal Earl]

Nope.

You ever go to a mall?

 

[xj0hnx]

You ever go to a mall?

Nope. Are there people at the mall with their children screaming obscenities, and throwing the finger?

 

[Jaskalas]

We need to be figuring out ways to document and train the work force that wants to come here; not shut out our greatest potential wealth building tools.

You've a point where I agree. Yours would be the only reasonable alternative if the border is not sealed. Though you still won't overcome finite resources faced with infitinite growth. The growth will only end when we're all too poor to care about immigrating towards.

That increase in poverty here is what kills.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Nope. Are there people at the mall with their children screaming obscenities, and throwing the finger?

Yes, all the time
Do you go outside?
Do you live in Pleasantville?

 

[xj0hnx]

Yes, all the time
Do you go outside?
Do you live in Pleasantville?

Haha, yea I go outside quite a bit, and no I don't live in Pleasantville. You wouldn't happen to be trying the ol' it's ok because someone else does it too bit?

 

[nick1985]

racists

 

[xj0hnx]

racists

Yip. Watch the four parts of the video he linked, it's pretty disgusting.

Oops, not what he linked, but what the video he linked is about ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGWN9PgPGc

 

[Orignal Earl]

Haha, yea I go outside quite a bit, and no I don't live in Pleasantville. You wouldn't happen to be trying the ol' it's ok because someone else does it too bit?

No, but it could be easily argued that what your hating on here is more of the spoiled American culture and not Mexican.

 

[xj0hnx]

No, but it could be easily argued that what your hating on here is more of the spoiled American culture and not Mexican.

What I am hating is neither "spoiled American", or Mexican culture. I hate to break it to you, but I am surrounded by, steeped in, and grew up around Mexican culture, well Tex-Mex Hispanic culture. From my wife and son, to most of my friends parents the majority of people I know are first or second, third generation at best Americans, and no one I know that came here legally wants to turn American into Mexico, or whatever other country they came from.

 

[Orignal Earl]

What I am hating is neither "spoiled American", or Mexican culture. I hate to break it to you, but I am surrounded by, steeped in, and grew up around Mexican culture, well Tex-Mex Hispanic culture. From my wife and son, to most of my friends parents the majority of people I know are first or second, third generation at best Americans, and no one I know that came here legally wants to turn American into Mexico, or whatever other country they came from.

lol
I just watched most of that 4 part video you linked above. Man....
That artist definitely created what she wanted. So really she's the only winner here
Did you notice a lot of the people don't seem to know which side they are on?

 

[xj0hnx]

lol
I just watched most of that 4 part video you linked above. Man....
That artist definitely created what she wanted. So really she's the only winner here
Did you notice a lot of the people don't seem to know which side they are on?

Hmm, no, looked to me that everyone knew exactly what side they were on.

 

[MJinZ]

Yip. Watch the four parts of the video he linked, it's pretty disgusting.

Oops, not what he linked, but what the video he linked is about ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGWN9PgPGc

Indians takin' back their land yo.

Let's see how stupid Americans really can be.

Indians were Asians. It would be hilarious to see the world taken over once again by Asians. Each race gets a turn ya know?

 

[MJinZ]

what? You’ve been lied to if you think that people coming here to work is going to mean more dead American children.

It means poorer Americans. M

This is seriously your argument? Seriously? Will the people revolt against 1/4th of the US being of Mexican heritage and suppressing wages for those with less than an associate’s degree? For everyone else the Mexican laborer is reducing the cost of the things we buy, increasing demand for the things we produce, spurring on the economy, saving lives back in Mexico and giving us more scientist, engines and entrepreneurs 50 years from now as their progeny learn and grow within our system.

Might as well take in 50 million Chinese, Korean, and Japanese. See, Asians are just better at things like Science, Engines and stuff.

and without the population growth that the Mexican immigrant offers we will slowly deteriorate, just like Europe.

Wut. 'Cuz the Blacks aren't going to help much, and the Whites here are useless too! Lovely!

We need to be figuring out ways to document and train the work force that wants to come here; not shut out our greatest potential wealth building tools.

There's a reason why we don't want no stinkin Illegal Mexicans. They don't offer SHIT.

USA Takes in smart, educated, and those with big potentials.

Otherwise, known as legal immigration.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Hmm, no, looked to me that everyone knew exactly what side they were on.

I suppose with the 50 different groups and all the different camera angles it is confusing. But there was what looked like Palestinian supporters standing with the Mex-Americans and then another group of Mex-Americans screaming go home camels etc. And the dude standing beside the Palestinian guy with the sign * You stole it You know it* looks like a hitler youth.

LOL I dunno

 

[MJinZ]

I suppose with the 50 different groups and all the different camera angles it is confusing. But there was what looked like Palestinian supporters standing with the Mex-Americans and then another group of Mex-Americans screaming go home camels etc. And the dude standing beside the Palestinian guy with the sign * You stole it You know it* looks like a hitler youth.

LOL I dunno

It's pretty clear.

Mexicans think (and rightly so) that the land is theirs.

Whities think (and rightly so) that they conquered the land and it is now part of the USA so GTFO.

Now it's up to the F18s and M16s to sort the skirmish.

 

[Svnla]

..... giving us more scientist, engines and entrepreneurs 50 years from now as their progeny learn and grow within our system.

and without the population growth that the Mexican immigrant offers we will slowly deteriorate, just like Europe.

We need to be figuring out ways to document and train the work force that wants to come here; not shut out our greatest potential wealth building tools.

More scientists/engineers from them ILLEGALS?? Links/sources? Why wait 50 years or more for something that may not happen at best while we can have current business owners/entrepreneurs/PhDs/MDs that are waiting for years to enter the US the LEGAL way?

Ways to document? Like we did in 1986, right? The big AMNESTY and look what it gave us. More waves and waves and waves of uneducated ILLEGALS that can't speak and write English and with zero skills. Are you and them ILLEGALS lovers going to train and educate them or willing to pay extra taxes for them? Well???? Put up or shut up.

If them ILLEGALS are so much of potential wealth building tools, then tell me, why don't you see more countries invite them in? Why they have to sneak in the US as ILLEGALS? As a matter of fact, none, nada, zip, no sovereign country on Earth would allow ILLEGALS enter their land without approval.

Only in the US that ILLEGALS have the nerve to sneak in, then demand rights and benefits as LEGALS/citizens. How pathetic.

 

[xj0hnx]

More scientists/engineers from them ILLEGALS?? Links/sources? Why wait 50 years or more for something that may not happen at best while we can have current business owners/entrepreneurs/PhDs/MDs that are waiting for years to enter the US the LEGAL way?

I believe it is either confusing illegal immigration, with legal normal immigration, OR the intentionally dishonest practice of trying to make everyone that is against ILLEGAL immigration as being against immigration in general.