Utah man who reported pot theft arrested

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
The funny thing is that this isn't the first time people have reported theft of drugs.

I really wonder what goes through people's minds when they decide to call the cops about their missing narcotics.
He must have been baked out of his mind.

I think there was even an SNL skit where a pothead went to the police station to ask if he could borrow one of their drug-sniffing dogs so he could find where he put his stash.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gigapet
isnt that entrapment?

Are you kidding?
Not in the slightest.

so can they go ahead and arrest anyone who at one time possesed something illegal?

Ok kids gather 'round DaiShan is gonna edjumacate you on the basics of "Entrapment" Entrapment is a legal defense to a crime that one has committed when the individual was coerced by a member of law enforcement to commit a crime of which they were not already predisposed to commit. For example, if a police officer walks up to you on the street and says "I will give you $10,000 for a gram of marijuana" you might think to yourself "Hmm, I've never sold weed before, but I know someone who can probably get me a gram for a lot less than 10 grand" That is entrapment. There are various other examples, I'll let you google those.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah and that sounds like entrapment. Police giving him something illegal on-purpose in order to arrest him for it.....

Check this

 

[V00DOO]

Don't use drug kids!

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah and that sounds like entrapment. Police giving him something illegal on-purpose in order to arrest him for it.....

Check this

I'd like to follow thi scase and see how it pans out for him.

In his mind the police were asking for cooperation on a breaking and entering crime. So really he got busted cuz he was cooperating with the police.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Wow, now these are some stupid people...:roll:

 

[BrokenVisage]

Man in pokey after reporting purloined pot

WTF kind of article title is that!? LOLOL

 

[JDrake]

Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gigapet
isnt that entrapment?

Are you kidding?
Not in the slightest.

so can they go ahead and arrest anyone who at one time possesed something illegal?

Ok kids gather 'round DaiShan is gonna edjumacate you on the basics of "Entrapment" Entrapment is a legal defense to a crime that one has committed when the individual was coerced by a member of law enforcement to commit a crime of which they were not already predisposed to commit. For example, if a police officer walks up to you on the street and says "I will give you $10,000 for a gram of marijuana" you might think to yourself "Hmm, I've never sold weed before, but I know someone who can probably get me a gram for a lot less than 10 grand" That is entrapment. There are various other examples, I'll let you google those.

Thats alot different than a cop giving you something illegal and then arresting you for having it.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: joedrake
Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

You ARE being fascetious right? That is well over the limit that puts you at dealer status (A Felony)

Also, Gigapet: The man told the police that someone stole his marijuana, so we have a few things going on here: 1) Someone committed a crime, breaking and entering 2) the victim of said crime told the police what was stolen, which happens to have been a quarter pound of a marijuana, which is also a crime. So the alleged victim admitted to not only posessing, but also intending to distribute said marijuana. Think of it this way: What if you bought a slave off of the internet and kept it locked up in your basement. This is a crime. Now suppose (for the sake of argument) that someone broke into your basement and stole your slave. Well obviously you've paid a lot of money for your slave and you want it back, so you call the police. They will 1) Find the person that you bought as your slave 2) arrest the person that broke into your home 3) arrest you for trafficking humans. There is no difference between the two scenarios. I hope this helped to clarify things in your mind.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: joedrake
Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

You ARE being fascetious right? That is well over the limit that puts you at dealer status (A Felony)

Also, Gigapet: The man told the police that someone stole his marijuana, so we have a few things going on here: 1) Someone committed a crime, breaking and entering 2) the victim of said crime told the police what was stolen, which happens to have been a quarter pound of a marijuana, which is also a crime. So the alleged victim admitted to not only posessing, but also intending to distribute said marijuana. Think of it this way: What if you bought a slave off of the internet and kept it locked up in your basement. This is a crime. Now suppose (for the sake of argument) that someone broke into your basement and stole your slave. Well obviously you've paid a lot of money for your slave and you want it back, so you call the police. They will 1) Find the person that you bought as your slave 2) arrest the person that broke into your home 3) arrest you for trafficking humans. There is no difference between the two scenarios. I hope this helped to clarify things in your mind.

The only difference is that the slave can confrim within 70% certainty(reasonable doubt) that the guy was keeping him in his house. The pot cannot testify so the possesion charge could only stick if they gave him back the pot.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: HBalzer
And they say pot doesn't impair judgment

Yes I agree this guy lacked intelligence, however which do you think is worse, marijuana or alcohol?

Inquiring minds want to know.

PS. This sorta reminds me of the show Cops where two prostitutes were fighting and telling the police openly on camera that they were prostitutes and one had stolen drugs from the other!

WTF?

Alchy, there aren't any directly related deaths from pot (ie someone smocked too much, sure people may have died from driving high, but thats not the point), however, you can easily die from too much alcohol.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: daveymark
another weed smoking piece of scum off the streets.

no ambition ftl

You have no idea what you just said, seriously, brainwashed by the american anti drug policy bullshit

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: daveymark
another weed smoking piece of scum off the streets.

We should throw them into Gitmo.

I mean, they are basically helping the terrorists win.

He could have grown it himself. The whol buying drugs helps terrorists is a crock too, most mary j, and E comes from the good ol' USofA.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

gigapet: while daishan's analogy might not have been perfect, do you believe that the guy wasn't being entrapped? or do you still hold onto your original belief that he was?

I agree with most of the people that this wasn't entrapment; under the definition given by daishan, the 'victim' wasn't coerced by the police into revealing incriminating information; he voluntarily provided it. Also important was the fact that the said 'victim' already had committed the crime of possession and intent to distribute marijuana; so how could the police have coerced him into committing a criminal act?

joedrake: the wisdom of marijuana criminalization versus other drugs such as alcohol is, I concede, debateable. But the fact remains that at the present time, marijuana is illegal under federal, if not state, laws. That is why you won't get in trouble if you report your computer stolen, but you will be in hot water if you were using the computer for illicit activity (ie massive spamming, beastiality, etc).

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: joedrake
Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

You ARE being fascetious right? That is well over the limit that puts you at dealer status (A Felony)

Also, Gigapet: The man told the police that someone stole his marijuana, so we have a few things going on here: 1) Someone committed a crime, breaking and entering 2) the victim of said crime told the police what was stolen, which happens to have been a quarter pound of a marijuana, which is also a crime. So the alleged victim admitted to not only posessing, but also intending to distribute said marijuana. Think of it this way: What if you bought a slave off of the internet and kept it locked up in your basement. This is a crime. Now suppose (for the sake of argument) that someone broke into your basement and stole your slave. Well obviously you've paid a lot of money for your slave and you want it back, so you call the police. They will 1) Find the person that you bought as your slave 2) arrest the person that broke into your home 3) arrest you for trafficking humans. There is no difference between the two scenarios. I hope this helped to clarify things in your mind.

The only difference is that the slave can confrim within 70% certainty(reasonable doubt) that the guy was keeping him in his house. The pot cannot testify so the possesion charge could only stick if they gave him back the pot.

Wrong again, he admitted to having had the pot...and tried to reclaim it...idk this is a sticky situation

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: daveymark
another weed smoking piece of scum off the streets.

We should throw them into Gitmo.

I mean, they are basically helping the terrorists win.

He could have grown it himself. The whol buying drugs helps terrorists is a crock too, most mary j, and E comes from the good ol' USofA.

Nah man, you got it all wrong.
I saw on TV that if one smokes pot they are helping the terrorists. That QP probablly paid for Al-Qaeda to get at least 10 AK-47s and a few pounds of fertilizer for IEDs.

I'm not sure about the most mary-j comment either. Lots of brick comes up from down south. I'm pretty sure that more schwag is smoked per weight than dank.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: joedrake
Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

You ARE being fascetious right? That is well over the limit that puts you at dealer status (A Felony)

Also, Gigapet: The man told the police that someone stole his marijuana, so we have a few things going on here: 1) Someone committed a crime, breaking and entering 2) the victim of said crime told the police what was stolen, which happens to have been a quarter pound of a marijuana, which is also a crime. So the alleged victim admitted to not only posessing, but also intending to distribute said marijuana. Think of it this way: What if you bought a slave off of the internet and kept it locked up in your basement. This is a crime. Now suppose (for the sake of argument) that someone broke into your basement and stole your slave. Well obviously you've paid a lot of money for your slave and you want it back, so you call the police. They will 1) Find the person that you bought as your slave 2) arrest the person that broke into your home 3) arrest you for trafficking humans. There is no difference between the two scenarios. I hope this helped to clarify things in your mind.

The only difference is that the slave can confrim within 70% certainty(reasonable doubt) that the guy was keeping him in his house. The pot cannot testify so the possesion charge could only stick if they gave him back the pot.

Wrong again, he admitted to having had the pot...and tried to reclaim it...idk this is a sticky situation

he admitted on the phone its hardly a signed statement. Any reasonable attourney could get that dismissed.

 

[ahurtt]

Well. . .I'm not surprised. I mean if somebody is dumb enough to smoke pot in the first place it shouldn't come as any surprise that they'd be dumb enough to report it stolen to the police.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
Well. . .I'm not surprised. I mean if somebody is dumb enough to smoke pot in the first place it shouldn't come as any surprise that they'd be dumb enough to report it stolen to the police.

Are you stoned?

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: joedrake
Wow you guys are a-holes. If someone broke into your house and stole your guys' l33t computers I think you'd, too, be pretty mad. Its the same thing, this guy obviously had to save up for a quarter-pound of pot, whether or not its legal, its still what he purchased with his money... subsitute your computer with marijuana, its no different. The guy who reported it shouldn't have even been arrested 😕

An man who called police to report the theft of a quarter-pound of marijuana was arrested when police recovered the bag of pot and then invited him to come to the Public Safety Building to identify it.

:Q

You ARE being fascetious right? That is well over the limit that puts you at dealer status (A Felony)

Also, Gigapet: The man told the police that someone stole his marijuana, so we have a few things going on here: 1) Someone committed a crime, breaking and entering 2) the victim of said crime told the police what was stolen, which happens to have been a quarter pound of a marijuana, which is also a crime. So the alleged victim admitted to not only posessing, but also intending to distribute said marijuana. Think of it this way: What if you bought a slave off of the internet and kept it locked up in your basement. This is a crime. Now suppose (for the sake of argument) that someone broke into your basement and stole your slave. Well obviously you've paid a lot of money for your slave and you want it back, so you call the police. They will 1) Find the person that you bought as your slave 2) arrest the person that broke into your home 3) arrest you for trafficking humans. There is no difference between the two scenarios. I hope this helped to clarify things in your mind.

The only difference is that the slave can confrim within 70% certainty(reasonable doubt) that the guy was keeping him in his house. The pot cannot testify so the possesion charge could only stick if they gave him back the pot.

Wrong again, he admitted to having had the pot...and tried to reclaim it...idk this is a sticky situation

he admitted on the phone its hardly a signed statement. Any reasonable attourney could get that dismissed.

Are you joking? Ok, without spending too much more time on this are you familiar with the Miranda warnings? One of which being "You have the right to remain silent, if you choose to waive this right, anything that you SAY can and will be used against you in a court of law" Signed affidavits are better than oral statements, but an oral admission to guilt will hold up in a court of law, if you contest this point, come back in 6 months when the guy has been sentenced.

/edit also you are aware that even contracts need not be written nor signed to be considered valid correct?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: newParadigm

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: daveymark
another weed smoking piece of scum off the streets.

We should throw them into Gitmo.

I mean, they are basically helping the terrorists win.

He could have grown it himself. The whol buying drugs helps terrorists is a crock too, most mary j, and E comes from the good ol' USofA.

broken sarcasm meter ftl