Ozoned

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We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I'd say you're a drama queen.

I am dead serious. I intend to embrace socialism, since I don't have a fucking choice.
 

0marTheZealot

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Some things should be socialist. The Fire department, Police department, schools, etc etc, are all "socialist" devices. Private-sector healthcare is an utter disaster in America, which I'm assuming what this bitch thread is about. We spend more than every other country in the world, get less from it and still don't cover everyone.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
We spend more than every other country in the world, get less from it and still don't cover everyone.


This thread is about something bigger than just one issue, but since you bring that up, From what I understand, We are going to spend much more than we have been, still get less from it and still won't cover everyone.

You OK with that?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

your a douche, go play in traffic.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
We spend more than every other country in the world, get less from it and still don't cover everyone.


This thread is about something bigger than just one issue, but since you bring that up, From what I understand, We are going to spend much more than we have been, still get less from it and still won't cover everyone.

You OK with that?

proof?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I know socialists.

I was one for a long time.

Obama's no socialist.

Why did you have to drag Obama into this?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

your a douche, go play in traffic.
It's You're you fucking dumbass.
 

Arkaign

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USSA is obviously a cheap way to try to conflate the socialist portion of US politics and economics with the failed USSR, which is pretty ridiculous considering the massive differences in government and economic structure. If anything, we are achieving a new fusion that merges corporatism with traditional socialism. We are not a communist dictatorship, not even close. In a typical communist system, the state *is* the supreme power, and in our current and recent history, the power structure is split over many different groups of elites.

We do have a problem, but socialism certainly isn't it. It has a lot more to do with having two functionally identical groups of systemically corrupt politicians being legally bribed by the richest interests in our country, as well as from beyond our borders. When our national political structure no longer has any interest in the citizens at large, but rather trying to balance keeping their office while garnering as much $ from the system as possible, it's a failure.

In a sense, I would take a hypothetically benevolent fascist or communist dictatorship over the malevolence, injustice, and incompetence of the status quo, though I lean towards the most liberty-oriented structure possible as the finest solution.
 

Moonbeam

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Socialism just means there will be help for you if you need it. You will be OK. You'll get used to the fact you won't be able to use the misery of others to flatter yourself. As a socialist you will be a much better person than you ever dreamed you could be and you won't any longer need to enjoy the misery of others. All the self flattering notions that you got where you are by true grit will fade away as you learn the tremendous joy of supporting others. You will become a good citizen.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

Here's your bubba...
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

That the problems the US is facing are caused by the politicians you have supported and have been predicted by the left.

Time and again, if the liberal policies were followed, we'd be in far better shape. From war to tax policies to financial industry deregulation and much more.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Socialism just means there will be help for you if you need it. You will be OK. You'll get used to the fact you won't be able to use the misery of others to flatter yourself. As a socialist you will be a much better person than you ever dreamed you could be and you won't any longer need to enjoy the misery of others. All the self flattering notions that you got where you are by true grit will fade away as you learn the tremendous joy of supporting others. You will become a good citizen.
A look forward to the day when I will no longer exploit for the sake of my own personal gain, but rather for the sake of supporting my fellow citizen. I will be able to sleep better at night.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

Here's your bubba...
No thanks, I don't do drugs.

 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

That the problems the US is facing are caused by the politicians you have supported and have been predicted by the left.

Time and again, if the liberal policies were followed, we'd be in far better shape. From war to tax policies to financial industry deregulation and much more.
Collectively, maybe. But what about me? Would I be better off? Sorry, but I just don't care about those who refuse to contribute....

 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Socialism just means there will be help for you if you need it. You will be OK. You'll get used to the fact you won't be able to use the misery of others to flatter yourself. As a socialist you will be a much better person than you ever dreamed you could be and you won't any longer need to enjoy the misery of others. All the self flattering notions that you got where you are by true grit will fade away as you learn the tremendous joy of supporting others. You will become a good citizen.

In other word, it's a dream that ignores foundamental human flaws and either someone use force to make this utopian dream come true or it will not happen. Oh and unfortunately those who tried to force the dream come true eventually succumbed to their own flaws and ended up creating a utopian for themself on top of the misery of all others.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Ozoned
We are approaching the dawn of a new era as one of the last pieces of the great society is close to being put into place. To me, it would seem rather fitting, given the pilgrimage that Left has embarked upon to remake the Image of our Republic, that we also re-name our country.


The United Socialist States Of America.


What say you?

That the problems the US is facing are caused by the politicians you have supported and have been predicted by the left.

Time and again, if the liberal policies were followed, we'd be in far better shape. From war to tax policies to financial industry deregulation and much more.
One other question. What country would you point to to support a conclusion of a superior liberal policies model.