Using a ps3 as a Blu-ray disc player question.

Kaspian

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I've been thinking about getting a ps3 instead of a stand alone BD player. Are there any features in a stand alone BD player that the ps3 does not have?

Thanks,
Kas
 

zinfamous

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nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.
 

CMC79

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

Agreed. I have been very happy with mine, although I'd recommend buying the remote control for it--using the PS3 controller gets old quick.
 

Kaspian

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

What do you mean by "future proof"?

Thank you for your input.

Kas
 

Kaspian

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Originally posted by: CMC79
Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

Agreed. I have been very happy with mine, although I'd recommend buying the remote control for it--using the PS3 controller gets old quick.

Thanks for the reply CMC. I'll make sure to get the remote for it.

Kas

 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Kaspian
Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

What do you mean by "future proof"?

Thank you for your input.

Kas

profile 1.1+ compatible. all Blu Ray players manufactured before 10/26/07 (or whatever that date) are not required to be profile 1.1 compatible. what this requires (iirc) is nothing more than ample storage space and a little bit of hardware. the PS3 is the only (i think there may be another) Blu Ray player that meets these specs.

1.1, 2.0 and all those improve menu and special feature functions on BDs (needs Java). What this means, is that many early adopters will be stuck with $600 pieces of hardware that don't play the newly-released discs. (technically, it should only effect the special features, but there are ample reports of Java-enabled BDs that don't play on certain Blu Ray players--PoTC 2, FF 2, Spidey 3....)

HD DVD pretty much already has this standardized capability, which is the big slam against Blu Ray.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Kaspian
Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

What do you mean by "future proof"?

Thank you for your input.

Kas

profile 1.1+ compatible. all Blu Ray players manufactured before 10/26/07 (or whatever that date) are not required to be profile 1.1 compatible. what this requires (iirc) is nothing more than ample storage space and a little bit of hardware. the PS3 is the only (i think there may be another) Blu Ray player that meets these specs.

1.1, 2.0 and all those improve menu and special feature functions on BDs (needs Java). What this means, is that many early adopters will be stuck with $600 pieces of hardware that don't play the newly-released discs. (technically, it should only effect the special features, but there are ample reports of Java-enabled BDs that don't play on certain Blu Ray players--PoTC 2, FF 2, Spidey 3....)

HD DVD pretty much already has this standardized capability, which is the big slam against Blu Ray.

If the PS3 is profile 1.1+ compatible, will it play the new discs that come out a few years from now when the standard is 2.0, for example?

To the OP, there are two things that the PS3 lacks. One is an IR remote. You can buy a bluetooth remote for it, but if you want to use a universal IR remote with it, you have to work a little harder at it. This thread at avsforum shows you how to make it.

The second thing it doesn't have is coaxial outputs for each individual channel. This means that the only way to get Dolby TrueHD and the DTS variant is with an HDMI receiver. With individual coaxial outputs you could run a cable for each from the bluray player to a non-HDMI receiver and get the HD sound.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Kaspian
Originally posted by: zinfamous
nope, as far as I know. the PS3 is generally considered the future-proof Blu Ray player. I've got one and I love it.

What do you mean by "future proof"?

Thank you for your input.

Kas

profile 1.1+ compatible. all Blu Ray players manufactured before 10/26/07 (or whatever that date) are not required to be profile 1.1 compatible. what this requires (iirc) is nothing more than ample storage space and a little bit of hardware. the PS3 is the only (i think there may be another) Blu Ray player that meets these specs.

1.1, 2.0 and all those improve menu and special feature functions on BDs (needs Java). What this means, is that many early adopters will be stuck with $600 pieces of hardware that don't play the newly-released discs. (technically, it should only effect the special features, but there are ample reports of Java-enabled BDs that don't play on certain Blu Ray players--PoTC 2, FF 2, Spidey 3....)

HD DVD pretty much already has this standardized capability, which is the big slam against Blu Ray.

If the PS3 is profile 1.1+ compatible, will it play the new discs that come out a few years from now when the standard is 2.0, for example?

To the OP, there are two things that the PS3 lacks. One is an IR remote. You can buy a bluetooth remote for it, but if you want to use a universal IR remote with it, you have to work a little harder at it. This thread at avsforum shows you how to make it.

The second thing it doesn't have is coaxial outputs for each individual channel. This means that the only way to get Dolby TrueHD and the DTS variant is with an HDMI receiver. With individual coaxial outputs you could run a cable for each from the bluray player to a non-HDMI receiver and get the HD sound.

since I have a non-v1.3 spec (HDMI) receiver, my only concern (universal remote and analog outputs don't concern me) is with the internal decoding of audio formats. Even though the PS3 does not internally decode DTS HD-MA at the time, reports state DTS is working with Sony.

As far as future proofing goes, with the inclusion of a hard drive, ethernet/wifi, and the cell, it is indeed future proof. Pretty much all BD decoding happens in the Cell, and it apparently can handle more features. BD v1.1 won't be much of a concern, and 2.0 doesn't really appear to bring all that much more to the table, definitely nothing that should even phase the PS3. Sony is reportedly working on a patch for the PS3 to add profile 1.1 to the list of capabilities, so that it's own 1.1-spec titles can be played in their full glory, the first to be the third Resident Evil movie to be released in January.
 

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I am a person that HATES when people try to substitute a console for a "real" stand alone A/V component. It just looks cheesy in an A/V rack. Well, that was my opinion until I got my PS3. The thing looks beautiful and looks great with all the other A/V equipment. It just looks like it belongs there. And like others have said, it is a great Blu-Ray player and is pretty much future proof, as Sony can just push out whatever update it needs to support whatever Blu-Ray feature introduced. It is also a great multi-media center piece. If you have an HD Sony camcorder, just pop the Memory Stick PRO Duo into the PS3 and watch your HD home videos in their full glory. Or if you have a digital camera, just pop in your memory stick and have them displayed on your nice big HDTV. Oh, and it plays games. ;) The ONLY negative I'll give it is that is uses bluetooth for the remote. And that only presents a problem if you are trying to use a universal remote. Other than that small negative, it is the best Blu-Ray player you can get right now.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i think BT for remote is awesome. no direct line of sight needed.

i like it too, but mine is not very responsive. anyone else have this issue?

sometimes I have to press a button several times to pause/un-pause a disc, or jsut push really hard on the button. pretty damn annoying. you know...I keep forgetting to check the batteries, though... :D
 

JC86

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my BT remote seems to go to sleep after inactivity. If i wanna pause after awhile, pressing the pause button once seems to awaken the remote and again does the desired function.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i think BT for remote is awesome. no direct line of sight needed.
It spoils me. Well, so does the white walls in the bedroom I can point the ir remote *anywhere* and it'll find it's way to the tv's receiver. :D
 

jterrell

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In and of itself a bluetooth remote is great but for those using the Harmony's like me that kinda sucks:)

I am spoiled to one button application settings: i.e. turn on tv set it to hd tuner input, turn on receiver set it to dtv input, et al.

Prolly not a big deal but it is a concern I have.

 

kalrith

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I also have a harmony remote. I plan to use the recommendation at the thread I linked above. Here's the link again. I already have a PS2 remote, so it should just cost me $11 and some time to be able to use my harmony remote. I also like hitting one button and having the remote do all the work. Before I got the remote, I'd have to come in the room and use 3 different remotes any time my wife wanted to watch a DVD :) Now she just presses Watch DVD and voila!
 

jterrell

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I'll have to try that.
I have the ps2 dvd remote already and it is hardly ever used.

Yea, WAF is very high with the Harmony remote.

My 5 and 7 year olds can also use it... now the Grandma still has issues but alas nothing is that full proof:)

 

thegimp03

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I got one on Sunday (the 80GB) - am very happy with it so far and it's a nice addition to the setup in my room. I decided against getting a stand-alone player because if Blu-Ray doesn't pan out for some reason, a stand-alone player is defunct while a PS3 will be usable for years to come as a gaming machine as well as a great upconverting DVD player.

As others have said, the only drawback so far is that it doesn't have IR for universal remotes.
 

Kaspian

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Thank you all for your input on your replies.:) Kalrith thanks for the link, I'll check that out.
 

Kaspian

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Originally posted by: thegimp03
I got one on Sunday (the 80GB) - am very happy with it so far and it's a nice addition to the setup in my room. I decided against getting a stand-alone player because if Blu-Ray doesn't pan out for some reason, a stand-alone player is defunct while a PS3 will be usable for years to come as a gaming machine as well as a great upconverting DVD player.
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I came back in to ask if the PS3 also upconvert regular DVDs. By reading your reply, I guess it does.:)

Kas

 
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Originally posted by: Kaspian
Originally posted by: thegimp03
I got one on Sunday (the 80GB) - am very happy with it so far and it's a nice addition to the setup in my room. I decided against getting a stand-alone player because if Blu-Ray doesn't pan out for some reason, a stand-alone player is defunct while a PS3 will be usable for years to come as a gaming machine as well as a great upconverting DVD player.
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I came back in to ask if the PS3 also upconvert regular DVDs. By reading your reply, I guess it does.:)

Kas

In fact, it's one of the best upconverting players out there.
 

Kaspian

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Besides the size of the hardrive (40 vs 80 gigs), are there any other differences between the two available PS3 models? Does the more expensive one (80gigs) has any "extras"?

Kas
 

Kaspian

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Kaspian
Besides the size of the hardrive (40 vs 80 gigs), are there any other differences between the two available PS3 models? Does the more expensive one (80gigs) has any "extras"?

Kas

Differences amongst PS3 models, note that if you are in north america, you are using NTSC.

Yep, I'm in the US. Thanks for the link. Thats great info.:thumbsup: