using a faster PIII than an older mobo "supports"

[AluminumStudios]

I asked this question a few weeks ago, but have gotten conflicted responses.


I have an ABIT BX6-r2 slot1 mobo. The latest BIOS supports up to a PIII-700. Someone said that since PIII's have their multiplier locked, I could use a faster PIII, like an 800 or 900 (100 MHz FSB legall, or 133 MHz if my AGP card can take it

Can anyone confirm this for me before I go but a new CPU? I know an new Athlon system would be cheap and a lot faster, but I"m A.) Too lazy to rebuild, and B.) have video capture cards, and tons of other hardware that I don't want to have to fight with to get to work together again!

 

[MadRat]

You can get FCPGA versions of the P!!!1000E to run in that board. Officially these boards don't support the FCPGA because of the lack of proper sub-2.0 voltage. The right slotkets, with voltage regulators built into them, remedy this problem.

 

[oldfart]

Any PIII or Celeron should work in it. Its been done many times. The 133 FSB CPU's will put the AGP @ 89 MHz. Some video cards work @ that speed, some dont. I've put 1 Gig CPU's in ABIT BX6, BH6, ASUS P3B-F. They all work just fine.

 

[AluminumStudios]

OK, thanks. Someone here said it would work before, then a computer store I've ordered parts from in the past said it wouldn't work. I believe that it will but wanted to hear more from others.

I currently have a PIII-500 (Katmai core) with my FSB @ 117 (CPU@585MHz and AGP@77.2) I have a Matrox Marvel G400 (I do video editing and love it's 2d quality and dual-head feature.) My systems runs day and night like this.

My system will post, but will suffer a registery error then reboot if I try to go into Win98 with my FSB @ 124. I haven't tried it since I installed Win2K. I'm not sure what component doesn't like that speed, perhaps my Marvel is refusing to initialize properly when Windows switches into a graphical mode? I have Coarsair and Mushkin CL2 PC133.

Anywho, I just need a few more CPU MHz for now. Even with a slower FSB and memory than newer generations my computer is very quick and responsive which I somewhat attribute to my 7200 RPM WD drives.

 

[Trader05]

Im currently running a 600mhz celeron on a Abit-Bx6-2 with the latest bios, the celery is a 9x multiplier so i'm running it @ 928 (103mhz bus x9) running totally stable...Just bought a p3 1ghz (133mhz bus) see how that works out when i get it.....

 

[BuckNaked]

You should have no problem running up to a 1G P3 on there, just make sure the slocket adapter you buy has the ability to adjust the voltage. I have a BH6 running a 900 Celeron, even though ABIT says only supports up to 700...

Dave

 

[oldfart]

The slocket does not "adjust" the voltage. The mobo does. The jumpers on a Slocket send a signal to the mobo telling it what voltage to use.

 

[MadRat]

<<The slocket does not "adjust" the voltage. The mobo does. The jumpers on a Slocket send a signal to the mobo telling it what voltage to use.>>

*waves finger*

Some slotkets do alter the voltage, hence I said, "The right slotkets, with voltage regulators built into them, remedy this problem."

 

[oldfart]

Like a $70 Powerleap? Why would you want one of them when all you need is a $10 Slocket?

 

[MadRat]

Because some of the early BX boards only go down to 2.0 volts, which is way too high for a Celeron. Most went down to 1.8 volts, while the last ones were often supporting sub-1.6 volts. He's best to play it safe than sorry.

We don't want to lead this guy into getting a Talautin processor and all of a sudden burning out his $150 processor.

 

[oldfart]

<< Because some of the early BX boards only go down to 2.0 volts >>


A BX6 r2 is not one of them. Even the BX6 r1 and early BH6 support lower Vcores. The poster was asking about a BX6 r2 with a CuMine, not a Tualatin. All you need for that setup is a $10 Slocket.

 

[MadRat]

<<A BX6 r2 is not one of them.>>

Are you sure? The r1.02 model supports down to 1.8 volts. But I didn't see any documentation supporting <1.8v on pre-1.02 boards. You really ought to give him a source to confirm this before he does just go out and try it. Its an expensive mistake if it doesn't work.

 

[oldfart]

I've seen people post that they have done the upgrade with the BX6 R2 boards. I've done it myself on a BX6 R1 board (1.75 Vcore). I never had a BX6 R2. I don't have 1st Exp with that one. I have also upgraded 3 BH6 R1 to Cumines 1.75 Vcore with no issue. These boards are all older than a BX6 R2.

 

[oldfart]

A quick search on the abit Usenet group:


<< > I have an old BX6 Rev 2.0 withthe latest bios update. It runs a celeron 433
> but I was wondering if it would take the latest 100MHz bus Coppermine CPU's
> ?

It will work fine with any coppermine 100Mhz bus cpu (including the 1.1GHz
Celeron) but you need a coppermine FC-PGA compatible slotket adapter.

I'm running a celeron 900 in my BX6r2, works great. >>

 

[eplebnista]

Below is a quote from AnandTech's BX6 R2 article Here



<< Voltages Supported: 1.40v - 3.2v (0.05v increments) >>




hth,
eplebnista

 

[Trader05]

My bx6-2 supports lower voltage....mine is down to 1.60, just go in the bios>softmenu and see how low your voltage goes!

 

[AluminumStudios]

I'll have to check what voltages mine does. I'm not sure off hand.

I work as a systems analyst for a large university. I know computer hardware well, so you don't have to worry about me burning out my CPU with too much voltage.

I thought that Tualitin's only worked with the 815e chipset? I'm just planning on getting a coppermine. I'll have to see what their voltage requirements are and what slotkits offer what.

Thanks for the info.

 

[oldfart]

There is an adapter from Powerleap that allows you to use a Tualatin for ~ $70. Or, if you are handy with a soldering iron..........look here

 

[BuckNaked]

Maybe instead of saying this:


<< You should have no problem running up to a 1G P3 on there, just make sure the slocket adapter you buy has the ability to adjust the voltage. I have a BH6 running a 900 Celeron, even though ABIT says only supports up to 700... >>



I should have just said make sure the slocket you buy is Coppermine or FC-PGA compatible...



Dave