Using 2x Tenda TE-N3 N150 WiFi router in Repeater Mode using ethernet LAN cable?

[ShahJahan]

Hello.

I have a Tenda TE-N3 N150 WiFi Router Tenda TE-N3 N150 Easy Setup Router (White) - Buy Tenda TE-N3 N150 Easy Setup Router (White) Online at Low Price in India - Amazon.in

which is pretty good and has 1 WAN input and 1 LAN output. I have configured my Router and now it applies my ISP username and password over a PPPoE connection type and logs me in when I switch the router ON.

Now this router can be used as a repeater, BUT in a wireless mode. Can I set it up so that I can use an ethernet (LAN) cable (like the one that connects this router to my PC) and then use it as a repeater? Since it's range is pretty less (less than 10 meters). I plan to use a 20m ethernet cable to connect it so that I can have connection in my garage?! Kindly do NOT advise to buy another Router which can cover till my garage. Since if it can work, then I plan to buy one Tenda N4 (which has 4 LAN outputs) and from these I can have 3 Tenda N3 and cover a vast area each connected with 20-30m cables, which a single Router can't.

My current setup:
ISP ethernet cable goes to WiFi Router WAN > another ethernet cable goes to my PC LAN.

My idea is (will it work?)
ISP cable goes to WiFi WAN > Ethernet cable (one which connects it to my PC) goes to ANOTHER Router (same model) > From this 2nd Router, ethernet cable goes to my PC LAN.

BOTH the WiFi should work and of the second Router, even the LAN should work.

I sincerely appreciate your suggestions. Thank you very much.

 

[ShahJahan]

Hello. Thank you all for your replies.

I connected the Routers in the way as shown above (as was planned) and this is what I faced!

Primary Router = The one connected to the ISP
Secondary Router = The one connected to the Primary Router

I disabled DHCP, as was advised to, on the primary router and now that router cannot connect devices. Devices can find the router, log in to it, but remain stuck on "Obtaining IP Address". The secondary router works with both WiFi and PC, but it connects EVERY device without asking for my WiFi password! It also flashes some warning, something like it is unsecured or something! Both the routers had different names (SSID?)

I want to use the Primary Router too (as WiFi) and the secondary router as WiFi + Ethernet and they should BOTH ask for WiFi Password. Plus they should both work seamlessly like I should be able to move from one zone to another and it should automatically connect to the nearest WiFi.

I sincerely appreciate your suggestions. Kindly help me please! Thanks!

 

[JackMDS]

Repeater is a Wireless mode.

If you use a cable you have to use the second Router as an Access Point.

Here is the principle - Using Wireless Routers (or Modem/Wireless Router) as a Switch with an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

 

[ShahJahan]

Thank you all for your replies.

I followed this guide and it helped, a little, but there are still things left!
http://m.wikihow.com/Cascade-Routers

My primary router has IP 192.168.0.1 and I gave my secondary router the IP of 192.168.0.2
Primary has DHCP enabled, secondary has disabled
Both are connected LAN to LAN
Both have different SSIDs and Passwords

Now the WiFi works great, but even if the signal is pretty bad on one of the routers, it doesn't swap to the other router which has better signal, unless it completely loses signal and connects to the better one, OR I manually do it. IF I manually do it, I have to retype the passwords everytime I change routers. It does it automatically if it loses signal of one router.

Now that since BOTH of my router's LANs are occupied and my router has just ONE LAN, I cannot connect it to my PC. I need ONE of the routers for a direct ethernet access.

So now, is there some setting or an app (which works on NON-root devices, since I cannot root ALL of them!) that can move to the better WiFi automatically?
And is there a way to free ONE of my router's LAN for direct PC access via ethernet?

Thanks again for all your help. We are getting there and it couldn't have been done without your guidance. I appreciate it!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Now the WiFi works great, but even if the signal is pretty bad on one of the routers, it doesn't swap to the other router which has better signal, unless it completely loses signal and connects to the better one, OR I manually do it. IF I manually do it, I have to retype the passwords everytime I change routers. It does it automatically if it loses signal of one router.

That's normal for non-commercial gear. Though Win7 shouldn't require you to re-type the password.

Now that since BOTH of my router's LANs are occupied and my router has just ONE LAN, I cannot connect it to my PC. I need ONE of the routers for a direct ethernet access.

Next time, buy better networking gear. I've never heard of routers with only one LAN port, aside from travel routers. Those must be awfully cheap routers.

 

[sdifox]

Thank you all for your replies.

I followed this guide and it helped, a little, but there are still things left!
http://m.wikihow.com/Cascade-Routers

My primary router has IP 192.168.0.1 and I gave my secondary router the IP of 192.168.0.2
Primary has DHCP enabled, secondary has disabled
Both are connected LAN to LAN
Both have different SSIDs and Passwords

Now the WiFi works great, but even if the signal is pretty bad on one of the routers, it doesn't swap to the other router which has better signal, unless it completely loses signal and connects to the better one, OR I manually do it. IF I manually do it, I have to retype the passwords everytime I change routers. It does it automatically if it loses signal of one router.

Now that since BOTH of my router's LANs are occupied and my router has just ONE LAN, I cannot connect it to my PC. I need ONE of the routers for a direct ethernet access.

So now, is there some setting or an app (which works on NON-root devices, since I cannot root ALL of them!) that can move to the better WiFi automatically?
And is there a way to free ONE of my router's LAN for direct PC access via ethernet?

Thanks again for all your help. We are getting there and it couldn't have been done without your guidance. I appreciate it!

Get a small five port gigabit switch.

 

[aigomorla]

Get a small five port gigabit switch.

i think he wants to daisy chain them to save himself on the cable.

IMO i dont see why it wouldnt work.
It seems those repeaters have a single port switch built into it, hence it has a secondary lan jack, so its like connecting a switch, to another switch and then to a PC.


OP, i am guessing you may have a IP conflict.

So it should be Router (192.168.0.1) -> TNet Repeater 1 (192.168.0.2) -> Tnet Repeater 2 (192.168.0.3)

Disable DHCP on both repeaters, leave DHCP on the router only.

 

[sdifox]

i think he wants to daisy chain them to save himself on the cable.

IMO i dont see why it wouldnt work.
It seems those repeaters have a single port switch built into it, hence it has a secondary lan jack, so its like connecting a switch, to another switch and then to a PC.


OP, i am guessing you may have a IP conflict.

So it should be Router (192.168.0.1) -> TNet Repeater 1 (192.168.0.2) -> Tnet Repeater 2 (192.168.0.3)

Disable DHCP on both repeaters, leave DHCP on the router only.

he wants to use laptop and the two routers, so internet to router 1 - switch then to router 2 configured as wap and laptop.

chances are putting it in ap mode will not convert the wan port into a lan port.

 

[aigomorla]

he wants to use laptop and the two routers, so internet to router 1 - switch then to router 2 configured as wap and laptop.

chances are putting it in ap mode will not convert the wan port into a lan port.

RJ-45 from router connects to this Access Point.
Then you can daisy chain it to a desktop / laptop.

So i am assuming it has a simple 1 port switch.
I could be wrong tho... and sdifox you may be right.


It reminds me of the old 10BaseT config where u daisy chained one machine to another to another and had to just setup the proper subnet mask + IP on each machine.

 

[sdifox]

RJ-45 from router connects to this Access Point.
Then you can daisy chain it to a desktop / laptop.

So i am assuming it has a simple 1 port switch.
I could be wrong tho... and sdifox you may be right.


It reminds me of the old 10BaseT config where u daisy chained one machine to another to another and had to just setup the proper subnet mask + IP on each machine.

10Base2

We used to do lan party with 10Base2. bunch of csc students lugging their towers and crt monitors to a guy's house to play Descent and Doom

 

[aigomorla]

10Base2

We used to do lan party with 10Base2. bunch of csc students lugging their towers and crt monitors to a guy's house to play Descent and Doom

lol... for me it was warcraft 1 and diablo 1.