So, unless there is some loophole or such, it would be fraud to attempt to send it in for service without paying the fee.A. WARRANTIES
* One Year Express Warranty on Console (Three Years for Three Lights Flashing Red). Subject to the terms and conditions of this Limited Warranty, Microsoft warrants to you only (the original retail purchaser) that, during the Warranty Period and under normal use and service, the Xbox® Console will substantially conform with the printed user instruction materials packaged with the Console.
Which is why they explictly state it in the warranty terms? You are expected to honor the terms, and if fraud is discovered, MS isn't the company you want throwing lawyers at you. Realistically, yes you might get away with it, but why risk the serious penalties for such a small amount of money as $140 for repairs from MS? Or even less from a 3rd party?Originally posted by: A5
Technically it doesn't transfer, but they don't ask for proof of purchase or anything like that when you call them, so I don't think they really care.
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Which is why they explictly state it in the warranty terms? You are expected to honor the terms, and if fraud is discovered, MS isn't the company you want throwing lawyers at you. Realistically, yes you might get away with it, but why risk the serious penalties for such a small amount of money as $140 for repairs from MS? Or even less from a 3rd party?Originally posted by: A5
Technically it doesn't transfer, but they don't ask for proof of purchase or anything like that when you call them, so I don't think they really care.
They asked me where I bought mine when I called for service, so unless he lies, or he is fortunate enough to have a "don't ask, don't tell" call, they will charge for the repairs.
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Which is why they explictly state it in the warranty terms? You are expected to honor the terms, and if fraud is discovered, MS isn't the company you want throwing lawyers at you. Realistically, yes you might get away with it, but why risk the serious penalties for such a small amount of money as $140 for repairs from MS? Or even less from a 3rd party?Originally posted by: A5
Technically it doesn't transfer, but they don't ask for proof of purchase or anything like that when you call them, so I don't think they really care.
They asked me where I bought mine when I called for service, so unless he lies, or he is fortunate enough to have a "don't ask, don't tell" call, they will charge for the repairs.
if you have the reicept it probably won't be a problem. if not then....Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Which is why they explictly state it in the warranty terms? You are expected to honor the terms, and if fraud is discovered, MS isn't the company you want throwing lawyers at you. Realistically, yes you might get away with it, but why risk the serious penalties for such a small amount of money as $140 for repairs from MS? Or even less from a 3rd party?Originally posted by: A5
Technically it doesn't transfer, but they don't ask for proof of purchase or anything like that when you call them, so I don't think they really care.
They asked me where I bought mine when I called for service, so unless he lies, or he is fortunate enough to have a "don't ask, don't tell" call, they will charge for the repairs.
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Which is why they explictly state it in the warranty terms? You are expected to honor the terms, and if fraud is discovered, MS isn't the company you want throwing lawyers at you. Realistically, yes you might get away with it, but why risk the serious penalties for such a small amount of money as $140 for repairs from MS? Or even less from a 3rd party?Originally posted by: A5
Technically it doesn't transfer, but they don't ask for proof of purchase or anything like that when you call them, so I don't think they really care.
They asked me where I bought mine when I called for service, so unless he lies, or he is fortunate enough to have a "don't ask, don't tell" call, they will charge for the repairs.
a simple "i dont remember" will get u past that...
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Microsoft would much rather you have a Xbox 360 working so you can buy games.
I understand your perspective, now try to understand mine. Discussions concerning any activity that would violate U.S. laws, aren't permitted here, and as a moderator for this site, I'm obligated to enforce that policy. In this case, the reason this hasn't been locked, is it is in that "gray area". As stated, the manufacturer of the product specifically states their warranty policy, so unless someone can point to solid evidence that they (the manufacturer) have extensions or exceptions to that policy, not just anecdotal evidence, my position is to err on the side of caution/legality.Originally posted by: Heller
wow, take a chill pill
I hope my sarcasm detector is just in need of adjustment. Because that is the silliest comment I've read in ages.Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Microsoft would much rather you have a Xbox 360 working so you can buy games.
good point. they really really don't want people buying new consoles. it actually hurts them.
Originally posted by: Sniper82
I might have someone local offering me a 360 Premium with games for $150. Yeah this is a sweet deal but if the failure rate is so high then is it even worth the $150? Would opening it up and doing some sort of cooling mod prevent the RROD?
Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Originally posted by: Sniper82
I might have someone local offering me a 360 Premium with games for $150. Yeah this is a sweet deal but if the failure rate is so high then is it even worth the $150? Would opening it up and doing some sort of cooling mod prevent the RROD?
Even if it does, you likely have $150 in the HDD, Controller(s), HD Cables, Power Supply, and games. Also if it does break you can try calling up support and just do what they say and answer the questions they ask. I've heard of them transferring warranties before.
My friend bought one off ebay, and got it fixed. He didn't even know that he wasn't covered.
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Good point. It includes several games that I could possibly sell and get most the money back. Curious does anyone here have a launch system they have thats still going strong?
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Good point. It includes several games that I could possibly sell and get most the money back. Curious does anyone here have a launch system they have thats still going strong?
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I understand your perspective, now try to understand mine. Discussions concerning any activity that would violate U.S. laws, aren't permitted here, and as a moderator for this site, I'm obligated to enforce that policy. In this case, the reason this hasn't been locked, is it is in that "gray area". As stated, the manufacturer of the product specifically states their warranty policy, so unless someone can point to solid evidence that they (the manufacturer) have extensions or exceptions to that policy, not just anecdotal evidence, my position is to err on the side of caution/legality.Originally posted by: Heller
wow, take a chill pill
As my own experience with this manufacturer would have involved lying i.e. fraud, in order to receive free service, had I not been the original purchaser, others anecdotal evidence that differs from my own, is "iffy" IMO. The other rationalizations, are just that, rationalizations, and do not reflect any official position by the manufacturer that I'm aware of. Again, if anyone has a link, ect. please provide it.
That thread does clearly reference it as a hypothetical, based on the fictitious situation from a popular film. However, Anandtech's new policies are such, that you are encouraged to post a thread in Personal forums issues when you feel a real issues exists-Originally posted by: Kev
darn and I was going to suggest we start a fraud forum, for posts like this and this
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It has been suggested by at least 1 member here, that leaving it on so it doesn't experience the cold-hot-cold-hot cycle might helped reduce RRoD issues. So maybe forgetting and leaving it on so often, has been a good thing?Originally posted by: DeathSniper
As a side note, I still have a pre-launch 360 (from the Pepsi/Doritos promo) going strongIt's been used it countless hours of DVD playing, gaming, and it's been left on many a times after forgetting to turn it off. Maybe I'm just lucky
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