*USED* Gateway GWTN141-5BK 14.1" FHD Laptop Celeron N4020 1.1GHz Intel UHD 600 4GB RAM 64GB SSD Windows 10 Home in S Mode Black $102 vipoutlet /ebay

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*USED* Gateway GWTN141-5BK 14.1" FHD Laptop Celeron N4020 1.1GHz Intel UHD Graphics 600


4GB RAM 64GB SSD Windows 10 Home in S Mode Black


20% off at checkout with SAVE4FALL (one-time use per acct.)


New is $169.99 @ Walmart:
 
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That first one got 2 star rating, and the other has almost 4, and much better specs, id sell some plasma really quick and get the extra money to go get the 2nd (if I had to choose)
 

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and much better specs
I don't get that. I thought that I linked to a laptop on ebay from vipoutlet, and the same laptop, new at walmart. They are not the same laptop? Maybe I made a mistake...

Edit: I don't think I made a mistake. Both pages show "GWTN141-5BK " as the model code for the laptop.
 

funboy6942

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AH, yes you did, just the walmart listing I did not pay that much attention, just saw the better description of it made. My Bad :p
Think now I need to figure out why ebay says 2 stars and Wally says 3.9.
 

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Think now I need to figure out why ebay says 2 stars and Wally says 3.9.
If you can figure that out, please let me know. I YOLO'ed and bought two of them.

Edit: That was simple enough, the ebay review was not about a vipoutlet unit, and was primarily complaining about not finding drivers for their older Canon printer, and how Office365 was now subscription-based.
 
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So I received one of them today. Came well-packed, in a "bubble coffin" (inside a cardboard box). Great condition, seemed almost new, except that there was a small scratch on the lower-right that went across the bezel and the screen for a short bit. Not really all that noticeable, not distracting to me at least.

When I did Windows update, it was offering an optional update to 20H2.

N4020 CPU was only a dual-core, but seemed "peppy" enough to run Win10.

Came with "Forge of Empires" icon on desktop. Some sort of pack-in / tie-in? There were some others games and stuff pre-loaded too.

Don't know about any installed 3rd-party A/V, or S-Mode. I think that they were advertised as S-Mode. Will update when I finish updating and check activation status.

Edit: Yes, mine was in S-Mode. Will try installing an SSD into the M.2 slot underneath. Wouldn't take my Gigabyte NVMe nor my Intel 660p NVMe. Going to try a TeamGroup SATA M.2 next.
 
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So the big questions are:
  • can RAM be upgraded
  • can the drive be upgraded
Seems like they make a lot of disposable laptops these days, I'm leaning more and more towards something like https://frame.work/. I know it costs a lot more than these, I hope they figure out how to modularize a graphics card soon, once they do, this will be the laptop to get... In the long run, modularization should save you money and produce a lot less disposable things...

I just noticed .... Gateway??? Didn't they die many moons ago already?
 

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So the big questions are:
  • can RAM be upgraded
  • can the drive be upgraded
Pretty sure, "no" and "no". For $100, these are disposable. (*)
I just noticed .... Gateway??? Didn't they die many moons ago already?
Walmart licensed the brand, to release an exclusive line-up. They're made by the same folks that make the "EVOO" laptops, I believe.

(*) At least, having 4GB/64GB configs, means that they're actually usable with 64-bit Windows, and are not rendered effectively obsolete the first time that a Windows Upgrade ("Feature Update") comes down the pipe, like the prior generation of 32GB eMMC cloudbooks were.

Edit: At least, keep some perspective. These have a 1080P screen on them, along with the 4GB / 64GB / Atom dual-core. If you were buying a custom build-to-order laptop, generally, the upgrade to a 1080P screen ALONE was $100, back in the day. This complete package (*OK, "used"), for $100, is actually a reasonable deal, assuming that you can make it last 2-3 years. That's like $33/year, for a working laptop. I consider that reasonable.
 
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Pretty sure, "no" and "no". For $100, these are disposable. (*)

Walmart licensed the brand, to release an exclusive line-up. They're made by the same folks that make the "EVOO" laptops, I believe.

(*) At least, having 4GB/64GB configs, means that they're actually usable with 64-bit Windows, and are not rendered effectively obsolete the first time that a Windows Upgrade ("Feature Update") comes down the pipe, like the prior generation of 32GB eMMC cloudbooks were.

Edit: At least, keep some perspective. These have a 1080P screen on them, along with the 4GB / 64GB / Atom dual-core. If you were buying a custom build-to-order laptop, generally, the upgrade to a 1080P screen ALONE was $100, back in the day. This complete package (*OK, "used"), for $100, is actually a reasonable deal, assuming that you can make it last 2-3 years. That's like $33/year, for a working laptop. I consider that reasonable.

By no means am I crapping the deal, but just as yourself, I went after some of these lower priced *deals* in the past, and have had less than stellar results. If you remember the small Dell deal at Staples - well, after much less than a year the hinge broke, and Dell was very opposed to honor their warranty. The Lenovo 'teacher's deal' for a 14" 1080p laptop was OK at first, but the screen quality is bad and my daughter complained that it has become slow. Don't blame her, with the 64GB storage, that is barely enough for anything. I've even tried the more expensive Ryzen 5500U laptops, but the ASUS from Costco had a bad display issue, and the HP from WalMart had a terrible screen and was very bendy.
All I'm saying is it's tough to find quality among $400-$600 laptops, let alone $100 ones. It's just the way it is looks like, that's why I'm thinking of spending a bit more for the modular laptop. The bad thing is for the price, they don't really have decent graphics (Xe I think, which seems better than the AMD Vega's, but it's still no RTX), but the rest of the components seems to make a lot of sense.
Unfortunately for any kind of quality in laptops, be prepared to spend at least $700...
 
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Are then these the ones when you open them, have a weight in them to make them feel heavier then they really are, and the main board is about the size of a raspberry pi with no upgrades to be done, and all soldered to the board?

I watched a few videos on some really cheap laptops, and that's pretty much what they found when they opened it. Yeah, maybe the main pcb isn't as small as the Pi, but it was about two times the size, which still is not saying much about it :p