used a Falcon VR controller today

QueBert

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For anyone who doesn't know what this is, Google it, it's made by a company called Novint. It's basically a controller that works in 3d and has the craziest force feedback I've ever felt.

Not a lot of games support it yet, but I bet a lot more will in the future. I played a bit of HL2 with it, now I've played HL2 2 times on different hardware. But with the Falcon the little portion I played was far better than either of my other experiences. The controller moves in and out in addition to up down left and right. It really is 3d, and the force feedback was impressive. Every time I shot a gun the controller would provide kick and shake. The pistol felt very different from the shotgun, every gun had it's own unique feel. I've shot real guns and while it's not anywhere close to real, it provides a big boost into your immersion in to the game. The kick was enough to throw my aim off a bit. And picking up objects made it stiffen up (for lack of a better word) A small object would cause a little friction, where a big box it felt like I was picking up something heavy.

It's hard to explain this thing, Youtube does have some videos, I gotta say it's beyond cool, I want to buy one just to play thru HL2 again, the feedback effects from it really were bad ass.

It's very realistic, the demo that came with it had a 3d sphere and you can feel it with different textures on it. Again it's hard to really explain, but when I had the goop skin the controller reacted like I was touching goop and I actually got the sensation I was. The same with the sand one and the bumpy one. The physical feedback combined with the visuals really worked. The ice one it was almost impossible for my hand to not slip when I touched the ice and tried to move the controller. Trippy is the only way I can describe it.

This is one of the coolest things I've used, if the support grows it will without question be my controller of choice. A mouse just can't compare. I don't know if it could replace my mouse but I might even be able to use it in Photoshop and other programs. It seemed very accurate and maybe could become a replacement for a mouse outside of gaming.


If it wasn't $170 bucks and had better support I'd buy one in a second :)
 

QueBert

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I wish I hadn't played with it because now I really want one, before I was like whatever about it, but I didn't even know what it did really. Novint released the SDK to developers so hopefully this will become a standard supported controller in future game Engines. You can't understand how really cool it is until you've used it.
 

Dumac

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I always thought it looked interesting. I wish I could try it before buying it, however.
 

Canai

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I just came across some videos of these. They're now ~$150 from online retailers, and Novint is almost ready to release the pistol grip controller for it. I almost ordered one last night heh.
 

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looks too gimmicky to me. it looked very unwieldy in one of the videos of a chick playing hl2. also, wouldn't your arm get tired holding it up all the time?
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: pontifex
looks too gimmicky to me. it looked very unwieldy in one of the videos of a chick playing hl2. also, wouldn't your arm get tired holding it up all the time?

Yeah arm fatigue could be a real issue, and the knoby controller looks dumb. I think I'm going to wait for the pistol grip to be released before picking one of these up.

Also, I have my comp in front of a couch, so I usually just put the mouse on the cushion next to me, so I could probably just stick the controller on a chair or something and have it at the same level as the mouse.

The Penumbra gameplay looks pretty bad ass as well, but Orange Box support will be a real winner for it. AND they have Valve's official support for the controller too :eek: so we could see some real innovation from that.
 

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Oooh I didn't know the finally released it. I think I'll wait for the pistol grip too. Money wouldn't be a bad thing to have first either.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: SonicIce
Strangely, if you google Falcon VR this thread if the first result. :Q

Haha that's pretty scary. I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about this, especially with valve on board.
 

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Sounds like what Logitech tried to do with the Cyberman over a decade ago, but better.
 

Auryg

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: SonicIce
Strangely, if you google Falcon VR this thread if the first result. :Q

Haha that's pretty scary. I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about this, especially with valve on board.

I think it's because the thing isn't usually called by this name..usually Novint Falcon or Novint Falcon VR.
 

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Originally posted by: Sniper82
Originally posted by: Canai
Bump because pistol grips are now available for purchase!

http://home.novint.com/products/pistol_grips.php

I almost ordered one, but I think I'll have to wait till next payday.

Looks cool, only $19.99? Figured something like that would cost much more. I don't think I would want to use it online but would be fun in single player.

The base unit is ~$150 from newegg / other etailers, and the pistol grip is just an alternative control interface to the doorknob thing that comes with it.
 

Auryg

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I bought one a few weeks ago but haven't had much of a chance to use it. Any questions though?
 

QueBert

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a heads up for anyone who is thinking about getting one but not sure. Fry's carries them, well at least the one in San Diego had them in stock. I believe they were $150. not bad at all. And you can check it out in person before buying. The Pistol grip control looks awesome as soon as I have the money to spare this is my next purchase

 

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My inner geek wants to buy, but I just spent another $50 on groceries and supplies. :(
 

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Originally posted by: SonicIce
Strangely, if you google Falcon VR this thread if the first result. :Q

No it isn't. Your probably just signed into your google account which changes your search results based on your web history. And you visit AT a lot so it is higher up in the results.
 

ric0chet06

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I'm going to buy one of these, simply looks AWESOME! Any idea where the cheapest place is to buy one? I have no best buys, circuit citys, etc around me so it'd have to be online.

edit: Maybe adding one of those ButtKicker things would make this experience even better...
 

mooncancook

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should not have clicked on this thread... now I want one... but it's expensive, and geeky.

hmm sooner or later maybe someone will make a porn game for this device
 

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I've been watching the videos for this thing and it looks awesome...

The thing is, I am totally happy with a KB/Mouse for games, I just want this thing on its own merit. I'm sure there could be all kinds of other uses for this, I just can't really think of any... Maybe remote surgery, lol.

I want it so bad, I just can't justify almost $200 for such a geeky thing that will sit on my desk with a pistol grip, scaring people...
 

ric0chet06

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I'd be fine with spending $160 for it by itself, and then $20 for the pistol grip, but shipping and tax totally kill it. Hopefully newegg will have free shipping on it sometime soon.
 

ric0chet06

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Just bought one off of ebay using the 25% Cashback :) Still had to buy the pistol grip, that was $30 shipped from the Falcon site though. I can't wait!