Use the Athlon XP 1600 or Duron 1.8 ghz?

[axelfox]

I got the 1.8 duron as a package deal with an ECS mobo, but I'm thinking the Athlon may work better in my favor. The main thing I do is binary decoding and the usual cd/dvd burning and internet surfing.

Would I need a new HS/F or can I use the stock from the 1.4 XP Athlon?

Which SHould I install?

Thanks.

 

[robcy]

I think the extra 400mhz of the Duron 1.8 will more than make up for the extra cache of the XP. The Duron will probably overclock better than the Palomino 1600+.

 

[axelfox]

Thanks

 

[myocardia]

Okay, first of all, that 1600 is almost certainly a Thoroughbred B, not a Palimino. I've never seen a Palimino XP1600, though they may exist. Assuming it is a T-bred B, it's going to overclock at least as well as that Applecore Duron, and since it has twice the cache, it will blow the Duron away. If it is a Palomino, I would still use it, unless you plan on OCing, in which case the Duron will OC better, thus giving you more performance.

 

[axelfox]

no plan on OCing

 

[Super6]

I have a 1400XP Palomino. I'd probably go with the Athlon if you're not going to overclock.

Super6

 

[robcy]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Okay, first of all, that 1600 is almost certainly a Thoroughbred B, not a Palimino. I've never seen a Palimino XP1600, though they may exist. Assuming it is a T-bred B, it's going to overclock at least as well as that Applecore Duron, and since it has twice the cache, it will blow the Duron away. If it is a Palomino, I would still use it, unless you plan on OCing, in which case the Duron will OC better, thus giving you more performance.

The Tbred-B went down to 1700+ not 1600+, all 1600+'s where Pallys. I had one, and with good cooling it would do 1600mhz. If there will be no overclocking I would still suggest the Duron, as the estra 400mhz in core speed will more than make up for the missing cache. Plus if he later want to overclock I am sure the Duron will at least do 2.1 maybe 2.2.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The Duron, it's a no brainer. 1600+ AGOIA or AROIA will maybe hit 1.8ghz with 1.85v or less, while the 1.8ghz Applebred already runs that at lower voltage, overclock it as well and it'll pull away from the old Pally again. My personal experience with sktA CPUs has been that the extra cache means very little in real world performance with the exception of select apps that really need the extra cache space. I of course unlocked the Durons so I could run the same FSB as it's big brother back then, but that's not a factor anymore since the Duron has the same FSB as the Pally.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: robcy

Originally posted by: myocardia
Okay, first of all, that 1600 is almost certainly a Thoroughbred B, not a Palimino. I've never seen a Palimino XP1600, though they may exist. Assuming it is a T-bred B, it's going to overclock at least as well as that Applecore Duron, and since it has twice the cache, it will blow the Duron away. If it is a Palomino, I would still use it, unless you plan on OCing, in which case the Duron will OC better, thus giving you more performance.

The Tbred-B went down to 1700+ not 1600+, all 1600+'s where Pallys. I had one, and with good cooling it would do 1600mhz. If there will be no overclocking I would still suggest the Duron, as the estra 400mhz in core speed will more than make up for the missing cache. Plus if he later want to overclock I am sure the Duron will at least do 2.1 maybe 2.2.

That's right, 1700. I still think he'd get more performance from the extra cache, since he has no plans on OCing. BUT, why are WE arguing about it, when he already has the hardware? Let him test them, and tell us what his results are...

edit: The reason I say he'll get more performance from the extra cache is that he says he does binary encoding, not gaming.

 

[axelfox]

Would I need a new HS/F or can I use the stock from the 1.4 XP Athlon?

 

[WobbleWobble]

No O/Cing? The stock HSF is fine then

 

[aka1nas]

The L2 cache reduction seems to make a minimal impact on the duron's performacne as it still has a fully functional 128K L1 cache. Plus, as it is really a cut down t-bred, it will run much cooler and at lower voltage than a palamino XP will. Finally, the fact that it is actually a t-bred with cache disabled is actually an advantage as it is basically a t-bred that produces less heat at a given frequency due to having the same surface area with fewer transistors being powered. The applebred durons are reputed to be pretty good overclockers so if you wished to push it it would almost definately go further than a palamino based XP would.