use of the word 'karma' on this board

[Special K]

I find it very odd that so many people on this board talk about 'karma' as a reason to do good actions (or not do bad ones), yet are atheist or agnostic. How can you deny all religions yet believe in some magical force called karma?

Yes I know not ALL members here are atheist or agnostic, but based on the religious threads I read here, it sure seems like a lot are.

 

[Whitecloak]

karma and grog.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Do you believe in luck? 😛

- M4H

 

[FoBoT]

karma == the force


use the force luke!

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: Special K
I find it very odd that so many people on this board talk about 'karma' as a reason to do good actions (or not do bad ones), yet are atheist or agnostic. How can you deny all religions yet believe in some magical force called karma?

Yes I know not ALL members here are atheist or agnostic, but based on the religious threads I read here, it sure seems like a lot are.

Its common lingo bro... calm down.

 

[gigapet]

karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

 

[SurgicalShark]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Do you believe in luck? 😛

- M4H

I hate to disagree but we HINDU people define karma differently in our holy scripture.

Karma is destiny that you create out of your own actions/reactions.

 

[Brutuskend]

I suppose it would depend on what you consider Karma to be.

You carry around in your mind the wrongs you have done and this can eventually lead to your penitence for those wrongs IMO.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

 

[RapidSnail]

Ryu Hayabusa = karma master

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

there is clearly nothing I can say that will enable you to wrap your brain around this primitive concept so I will concede defeat. There is no such thing as cause and effect or reaping what you sow.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

there is clearly nothing I can say that will enable you to wrap your brain around this primitive concept so I will concede defeat. There is no such thing as cause and effect.

That's not what I meant. I thought karma would say something like, if I find a wallet on the ground that isn't mine and take it instead of turning it in or trying to identify the owner, then I get 'bad karma", and something bad will assuredly happen to me later as a result of that. Or if I turn it in, something good will happen to me later on. However, me turning in the wallet (or not) and the bad (or good) happening to me later is not a clear cause/effect relationship. That's what I meant.

 

[Ryan]

personally - I see Karma as an extension of your state of mine. Do good things for others, and you'll likely have a positive attitude about life.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

there is clearly nothing I can say that will enable you to wrap your brain around this primitive concept so I will concede defeat. There is no such thing as cause and effect.

That's not what I meant. I thought karma would say something like, if I find a wallet on the ground that isn't mine and take it instead of turning it in or trying to identify the owner, then I get 'bad karma", and something bad will assuredly happen to me later as a result of that. Or if I turn it in, something good will happen to me later on. However, me turning in the wallet (or not) and the bad (or good) happening to me later is not a clear cause/effect relationship. That's what I meant.

your saying if you can't distinguish the relationship of the cause and the effect then it doesnt exist. Its not as simple as that but there is a balance and order to everything.

 

[scottish144]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

there is clearly nothing I can say that will enable you to wrap your brain around this primitive concept so I will concede defeat. There is no such thing as cause and effect.

That's not what I meant. I thought karma would say something like, if I find a wallet on the ground that isn't mine and take it instead of turning it in or trying to identify the owner, then I get 'bad karma", and something bad will assuredly happen to me later as a result of that. Or if I turn it in, something good will happen to me later on. However, me turning in the wallet (or not) and the bad (or good) happening to me later is not a clear cause/effect relationship. That's what I meant.

It makes logical sense to a dgree when you think about it. We are what are actions make us. If I steal a wallet, I'm a bad person. Granted, nothing may come of it directly, but it reinforces the "bad person" part of me. Whereas a sel-righteous person woul give the allet back, get a warm fuzzy feeling, and continue life. Its all a matter of psychological perception and your values. Do good things, you get good values, which will most likely lead to a better life than you would otherwise have. Do bad things, you get the opposite.

 

[Vic]

Karma is not fate. It is not a force. It is cause and effect. Reap what you sow. Good and evil actions create ripples of emotion through human interactions much like ripples from throwing rocks in a pond.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Special K
I find it very odd that so many people on this board talk about 'karma' as a reason to do good actions (or not do bad ones), yet are atheist or agnostic. How can you deny all religions yet believe in some magical force called karma?

Yes I know not ALL members here are atheist or agnostic, but based on the religious threads I read here, it sure seems like a lot are.

its just a term to describe a bad practice.. it has no meaning with the true religion
thank the media for making it a catchphrase.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: scottish144
It makes logical sense to a dgree when you think about it. We are what are actions make us. If I steal a wallet, I'm a bad person. Granted, nothing may come of it directly, but it reinforces the "bad person" part of me. Whereas a sel-righteous person woul give the allet back, get a warm fuzzy feeling, and continue life. Its all a matter of psychological perception and your values. Do good things, you get good values, which will most likely lead to a better life than you would otherwise have. Do bad things, you get the opposite.

Well said.

- M4H

 

[6StringSamurai]

Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma CHAMELEONNNN!!!

kar·ma ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kärm)
n.
Hinduism & Buddhism. The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny.
Fate; destiny.
Informal. A distinctive aura, atmosphere, or feeling: There's bad karma around the house today.

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: gigapet
karma isnt a religious thing or magical force.

Its a law of the universe. Cause and effect.

you reap what you sow.

A law of the universe? Have scientists documented this one?

there is clearly nothing I can say that will enable you to wrap your brain around this primitive concept so I will concede defeat. There is no such thing as cause and effect.

That's not what I meant. I thought karma would say something like, if I find a wallet on the ground that isn't mine and take it instead of turning it in or trying to identify the owner, then I get 'bad karma", and something bad will assuredly happen to me later as a result of that. Or if I turn it in, something good will happen to me later on. However, me turning in the wallet (or not) and the bad (or good) happening to me later is not a clear cause/effect relationship. That's what I meant.

But you see there are two outcomes to the wallet scenario. This first of not returning the wallet leads the owner to further frustration, and work to track down or replace missing possessions. If you returned it the owner will most likely be grateful, and will most likely be inclined to help others when the situation arises. It's not different that going off the handle at some joe blow desk cleark at a store. They don't care if you yell and scream like an idiot, though it may change their disposition for the rest of the day. Thereby when the time comes for an opportunity to help someone they may just pass at the chance.

Karma isn't something mystical, it's the promotion or withdrawl of good will and the subsequent effects thereof. In the non-religious connotations of course. It's the same reason why we are taught to say please and thank you to others. It's not a guarantee that people will be nice to you. Though people may be more inclined to when you treat them well.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

How I believe karma works:

Person A does something good for person B.
Person B is inclined to do something good for person C.
continue around over and over many times
Eventually when person A needs something good to happen, someone's more likely to be there that will do something good for them.

It's like being on a team where everyone is helping eachother vs. a team where everyone is working for thier own goals, the first team will end up better off. It's just that in this case, the team is society.