Use existing telephone lines for sending serial data?

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Leros

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Would it be possible to utilize existing telephone lines in a house to have two device communicate via serial?
 

bobsmith1492

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Would it be possible to utilize existing telephone lines in a house to have two device communicate via serial?

Are the lines already in use? If so, you'd need a modulation scheme like a DSL modem. If not, then go for it - they're just wires.
 

PottedMeat

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^this, if the house is fairly new there should be unused pairs.


i'd try RS232 for <50' ( at least 3 wires ), or try RS422/485 for up to 4000' ( 2 pairs )
 

Paperdoc

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Well, maybe. First, as others have said, you would HAVE to ensure the wires you use are disconnected from everything else.

The "maybe" part is because of line length and losses. A typical Serial Port on a computer is actually a very specific port type, RS-232. It uses mainly voltage-type signals and high-impedance 5 VDC circuits for communication. Such circuits work well over shorter distances and in the absence of strong external sources of electrical noise. Hence they are well suited to connecting a computer to a printer that is withing 5 to 10 feet. But there is a real limit to how far that connection can extend and still be reliable. For longer distances, one older way was another version of serial data transfer called RS-422 that used low-impedance circuitry and a current-based signal, not voltage-based. It was much better at noise resistance and less likely to suffer from weakened signal over a long line. But that system is almost never found built into a computer mobo or a peripheral device.

There are lots of other ways to connect devices over longer distances, if that is your need. But most of them involve using or installing a different cable. Your question was how NOT to have to do that, and just use what's already there. So, MAYBE it could work.
 

Colt45

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If it's twisted pair, RS-422 will work. Otherwise you'll need modems.
 

Modelworks

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From a standard pc serial port, sure. PC serial ports work on a 12V & -12V logic level unlike most of the digital world that is 5 or 3.3Volt. Most of the time that causes problems for people who interface chips because they have to use a level converter to use it safely, but if you want to send it over existing wiring then the 12V output works in your favor :)

Laptops and USB serial ports are usually 5vdc.
 
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