USB 2.0 is supposed to support hot swapping, right?

[TrueBlueLS]

It works fine when the computer is started up and the mouse is plugged in, but it's a whole different story if it's not. If I go to replug in my mouse, it'll cause the mouse not to be detected. I also have the same problem where it doesn't recognize my Canon A40. Suggestions?

EDIT: Using Windows 2K Pro
EDIT #2: Using MS Optical Mouse USB

 

[John]

USB 1.1 & 2.0 is hot swappable. Sometimes I've had to play "swap the slot" until I get a device to detect.

 

[sandorski]

What's your hardware config, kinda sounds older like a P2/3 or K6-2 era.

 

[kazeakuma]

Originally posted by: John
USB 1.1 & 2.0 is hot swappable. Sometimes I've had to play "swap the slot" until I get a device to detect.

I've found the same thing, for some reason it doesn't like it if you've had something in there before. Try swapping the port you're plugging it into.

 

[addragyn]

Originally posted by: John
USB 1.1 & 2.0 is hot swappable. Sometimes I've had to play "swap the slot" until I get a device to detect.

Get that all the time. Have just kind of accepted it...

 

[Insidious]

sometimes here too. I usually just give it cuss and boot therapy.

-Sid

(I thought I just had a crappy mouse)

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

I've never had hot swaping problems with USB 1.1 since thats all my mobo supports...

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: sandorski
What's your hardware config, kinda sounds older like a P2/3 or K6-2 era.

ASUS SPAX (HP OEM) with the SiS 5598 Chipset
AMD K6-2 333
SiS 7001 USB to PCI controller (stopped using it because it only worked with HP's recovery CD)
SIIG USB 2.0 PCI card (problematic?)

 

[RalfHutter]

I've always had those exact same issues with USB since day one. USB is just buggy that way.

 

[prosaic]

USB itself isn't buggy that way. Its implementation on some system boards or daughter cards (or some peripherals) may be.

A simple fix that has worked for some people is to add the latest drivers for the chipset and the USB controllers first (rebooting after each one), then to remove the controllers from the Device Manager and reboot to allow redetection. Apparently the installation procedure for some USB 2.0 controller drivers isn't getting the registry settings right. The delete / re-detect cycle seems to get the hot-swapping behavior sorted out on these systems.

I have never had a problem with either stopping / removing USB devices or with having them detected immediately upon connection in Windows 2000 or Windows XP. I'm certain that, as will all other types of devices, there are vendors of USB devices (and USB controllers and motherboard chipsets with integrated USB controllers) who make drivers that aren't up to snuff. I haven't run into any of them that misbehave at work or play on a very wide variety of equipment, but I buy more-or-less mainstream systems and peripherals. Maybe that's why I've had such good luck.

- prosaic

 

[sandorski]

USB 2.0, I believe, requires SP1 with WinXP. I'd look into Windows updates, especially if you are using Win98. I'm not even sure USB 2 will work with Win98, it would certainly require an update.

 

[alkemyst]

regardless if USB supports it, the OS may be to blame, I think certain things like mice, etc if not detected or lost are not seen until reboot.

As a programmer I fear all the things you have to take into account now (PCMCIA, SCSI, USB, FIREWIRE, etc)....is it here now, did it leave, did it come back,

Why are you unplugging the mouse?

 

[NateSLC]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
regardless if USB supports it, the OS may be to blame, I think certain things like mice, etc if not detected or lost are not seen until reboot.

As a programmer I fear all the things you have to take into account now (PCMCIA, SCSI, USB, FIREWIRE, etc)....is it here now, did it leave, did it come back,

Why are you unplugging the mouse?

Then kudos to the programmers at Microsoft for Windows XP. I have had my bluetooth wireless keyboard/mouse and my ATI Remote Wonder working together controlling the mouse, then plugged in a USB Logitech Optical mouse. One USB hardware found sound and all three worked.

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
regardless if USB supports it, the OS may be to blame, I think certain things like mice, etc if not detected or lost are not seen until reboot.

As a programmer I fear all the things you have to take into account now (PCMCIA, SCSI, USB, FIREWIRE, etc)....is it here now, did it leave, did it come back,

Why are you unplugging the mouse?

I was using it to swap back and forth between two computers because the PS/2 port on the other computer is fried. I'll try giving the remove devices after installing to let it recognize it. Hopefully that should fix it.

 

[Viper96720]

If that don't work get a cheap usb mouse

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: Viper96720
If that don't work get a cheap usb mouse

Sorry, forgot to clarify that I was using an USB MS Optical Wheel Mouse.

 

[Viper96720]

You can find some good mice for around $20