USATODAY Poll: Kerry Leads President by 8 Points, 52% dissaprove of Presidents 9/11 ads, Majority Skeptical of Kerry Win

tnitsuj

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The president needs something that will allow him to get off the defensive. Fairly or unfairly he has spent the last couple of months explaining things and defending himself rather than pointing to achievments, and now his new ad campaign appears to have produced more negtative publicity than positive.

He shouldn't have done that ridiculous meet the press interview either, it didn't help at all and it is indicitive of real problems when even the conservative pundits are ripping on your performance.

He can't wait until the convention to get off the defensive. I am however confident that Kerry will say/do something stupid soon to give the president an opening, he is not my 1st choice for a candidate.
 

CADsortaGUY

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11. Do you think John Kerry or George W. Bush is more likely to change his positions on issues for political reasons?
kerry - 49
Bush - 37
Both - 5
Neither - 2
No Opinion - 7

:p

CkG
 

dirtboy

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The President has been pushed into a defensive position. He's getting blamed for things he had no control of and people are demanding answers. Meanwhile, Kerry is running around playing the blame game and offering no substance on what he actually stands for. IMHO, if Kerry wants to stand out, he needs to take a stand on his issues, clarify his points and not change his mind every other day.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
The President has been pushed into a defensive position. He's getting blamed for things he had no control of and people are demanding answers. Meanwhile, Kerry is running around playing the blame game and offering no substance on what he actually stands for. IMHO, if Kerry wants to stand out, he needs to take a stand on his issues, clarify his points and not change his mind every other day.

To be fair the president has put himself in the position of being held accountable for things that he has little control over.

1. Iraq, like it or not the fate of Iraq is ultimately in the hands of the Iraqis and with it a large measure of the credibility of this administration and the United States as a whole. I personally think it is a mistake to give that power to the Iraqis, and to underestimate the magnitude of the task in Iraq.

2. The economy: the president has consistenly harped on jobs, jobs, more jobs being generated by his economic policies and it seriously damages his credibility when they don't materialize. This is despite the fact that structural changes in the economy are responsible for the job loss, not any action the president can take/has not taken. What is he supposed to say now?

It doesn't help when members of his economic team talk of outsourcing as a positive thing (I personally think it is), but the average unemployed American isn't going to understand that.

 

Nitemare

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"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

Quit pissing them off yes, but pander to and appease them, no
 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

Quit pissing them off yes, but pander to and appease them, no


How many times was Bush warned by George Tenet during the entire month of August about a terrorist threat?

My feelings can be summed up by one of the 9/11 families who protested against Bush using 9/11 as a political issue.

"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said.
"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."

 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

Quit pissing them off yes, but pander to and appease them, no


How many times was Bush warned by George Tenet during the entire month of August about a terrorist threat?

My feelings can be summed up by one of the 9/11 families who protested against Bush using 9/11 as a political issue.

"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said.
"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."

Quite like this warning a year ago. Do you know how many threats against the US are received every day?
 

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

Quit pissing them off yes, but pander to and appease them, no


How many times was Bush warned by George Tenet during the entire month of August about a terrorist threat?

My feelings can be summed up by one of the 9/11 families who protested against Bush using 9/11 as a political issue.

"Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said.
"He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened."

Quite like this warning a month ago. Do you know how many threats against the US are received every day?

hmmm, i remember a while back when all the cons were accusing clinton of having missed it because he had warnings about 9/11 and he didn't act on it.

so, would the same line apply there too? or is it JUST for republicans??
 

sMiLeYz

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No why don't you tell me? I mean obviously, you're in the know and I'm not.

And why isn't he cooperating with the 9/11 investigation?
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Nitemare


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

0.

it has been less than 2-1/2 years since 9-11; how many terrorist attacks on American soil were there in the 2-1/2 years before 9-11?

0.

so does the fact that there have been no terrorist attacks on merican soil since 9-11 lend any crediblity to Bush?

no.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?
Good question. Do you count the anthrax terrorist attacks as a single attack since they used the same methods, or do you count them as multiple attacks since there were several attacks over a period of time?
 

Dari

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According to historians, Dukakis was beating Bush Senior in the polls as late as July 1988.
 

sMiLeYz

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Senior Bush also had 70% approval rating... that's after a popular and successful adventure in Iraq going against a certain little known governor of Arksansa.

 

Tripleshot

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Nitemare
How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?
Good question. Do you count the anthrax terrorist attacks as a single attack since they used the same methods, or do you count them as multiple attacks since there were several attacks over a period of time?


How does that make a terrorist attack? Has anyone been caught? NO! For all we know, that episode could have been concocted by some mal content like Timothy McVey. Until you get the culprit that did the anthrax mail attack, don't even consider that an Al Qauda deal. You have nothing to base it on.
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
11. Do you think John Kerry or George W. Bush is more likely to change his positions on issues for political reasons?
kerry - 49
Bush - 37
Both - 5
Neither - 2
No Opinion - 7

:p

CkG

Thanks for pointing that out CAD, you ARE right, people just expect that Bush will be the same old Bush. We know where his interests lie so he really has no need to change positions. He has made his positions very clear, screw the american worker in the hynie and don't forget to fluff big business.

Got it.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"Bush polled better than Kerry on handling terrorism issues (60%-33%)"

The only reason to vote for him.

It's a choice of another terrorist attack on American soil or having 4 more years of Asscroft and Rove...My vote would go the the Shrub.


Thanks again democratic primary voters for flocking to Kerry and assuring us of another Dumb and Dumber presidential selection choices

You feel safer, but honestly do you think you are any safer now? We can barricade ourselves in, have soldiers on every corner, and little video cameras watching our every move but I still think the best way to prevent another terrorists attack is to quit pissing off the rest of the world in the first place.


How many terrorist attacks on American soil since 9-11?

Quit pissing them off yes, but pander to and appease them, no

And how many attacks on american soil before 9-11? Thats right 5. How many americans died? Over 100. And what did Clinton and the Democrats do about it? Thats right nothing.

I sure do feel sorry for those that lost their lives in the 5 terrorist attacks on america. Its like they dont matter or something.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Senior Bush also had 70% approval rating... that's after a popular and successful adventure in Iraq going against a certain little known governor of Arksansa.

Yes, and thats the thing. Kerry isnt a little known governer from Podunk, USA. He is a sitting Senator, one who has excessive amounts of baggage. Theres a reason why Senators are rarely elected to President, and why there hasnt been one since Kennedy. The excess political baggage...
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: leeboy
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
11. Do you think John Kerry or George W. Bush is more likely to change his positions on issues for political reasons?
kerry - 49
Bush - 37
Both - 5
Neither - 2
No Opinion - 7

:p

CkG

Thanks for pointing that out CAD, you ARE right, people just expect that Bush will be the same old Bush. We know where his interests lie so he really has no need to change positions. He has made his positions very clear, screw the american worker in the hynie and don't forget to fluff big business.

Got it.

Thats such a stupid response. Kerry's flip flopping is done solely for polticial gain. It doesnt matter the time, frame. Hes said/voted one way, and reveresed in a matter of days, weeks. This isnt about changing positions over time, its about flip flopping on a regular basis, solely for polticial gain.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: leeboy
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
11. Do you think John Kerry or George W. Bush is more likely to change his positions on issues for political reasons?
kerry - 49
Bush - 37
Both - 5
Neither - 2
No Opinion - 7

:p

CkG

Thanks for pointing that out CAD, you ARE right, people just expect that Bush will be the same old Bush. We know where his interests lie so he really has no need to change positions. He has made his positions very clear, screw the american worker in the hynie and don't forget to fluff big business.

Got it.

Ah, so you believe kerry is "for the little guy" even though he wan't to milk the little guy's employer. Don't mind that that little guy might not have a job if the "rich" guy needs to save money to pay for everyone's gov't.;) What happens when kerry taxes manufacturing business....will they look to cut costs? move to cheaper places? Hmmm....
But again - whatever makes people "feel" good at the moment. If people want kerry because he says the right things at the right time - so be it. They'll eventually see - it's just too bad it'd be too late.

CkG
 

SuperTool

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So as long as the question of the election is
"Should gay Iraqi terrorists be able to marry?"
it's Bush's to lose :D