USA Domestic trav el restrictions DSLR equipment

BarkingGhostar

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In late October I was planning on flying into Boston from Atlanta for a Halloween in Salem, MA. I wish to bring along with my my Canon 5D mk3 and a couple of lenses. I thought there was some new restrictions on carrying electronics onboard the lane instead of checking that now required anything larger than a cell phone to be checked. Was I wrong or am I imagining all of this?

I would rather leave the equipment at home then check it under the plane because workers for the airlines and TSA seem to be deliberately smashing expensive camera equipment in recent times. Heck, I read two cases in which lenses and prosumer equipment costs >>$9K were shocking damaged as if the perp intended to wreck the property.

I know I can get a hard case, but this means nothing as others who fell victim to this loss in property had their equipment pulled from the luggage and then severely damaged. And I certainly don't want the hassle of buying insurance, filing claims, etc., as that is a time-consuming process especially on the outbound holiday side of life.

I once booked a flight on Delta with a small carry-on bag just for my Nikon (at the time) and even though I made effort to insure the flight in both directions was with Delta and not some other carry operating as Delta, the wife and I were surprised by a non-true Delta operator that forced-checked my camera as they refused to let me carry it on even though it was small enough to fit under the seat. True a-holes and this only is aggravated as Delta takes zero responsibility in these and damaged property matters.

I felt really bad for that guy who lost a $11K lens because someone removed it from his forced-checked bag and smashed it to the point the lens barrel was now oval and many optics broken and Delta said, "Sorry, here's $100."
 

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Buy a small travel gun case and a flare gun, place expensive products in case with flare gun and lock it, claim it as a firearm at bag check. TSA will xray it but won't open it.
 

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I fly with my camera/lenses in my carry-on constantly and have never been told to check it. The security people in the Netherlands took the caps off of all of my lenses to look through them and make sure they were real (wat) but otherwise I've never had an issue.
 

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I had a big old DSLR with lens in my backpack through security twice within the last 12hrs and not one say anything....
 

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I just thought I heard something in which travelers couldn't take any electronic device larger than a cell phone onto a plane. Maybe that was for international travel, or just certain politically questionable countries. I'm beginning to think that may I will put a lens in my bag and the body into the wife's bag and then a lens or two into a carry on and see if I can mitigate problems.
 

KMFJD

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I just thought I heard something in which travelers couldn't take any electronic device larger than a cell phone onto a plane. Maybe that was for international travel, or just certain politically questionable countries. I'm beginning to think that may I will put a lens in my bag and the body into the wife's bag and then a lens or two into a carry on and see if I can mitigate problems.
I think what you are thinking about has been rescinded

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/20/us-ends-laptop-ban-flights-middle-east
 
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BarkingGhostar

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It started with laptops and then quickly evolved into anything larger than a cell phone. I will pack the body and two secondary lenses and carry on my favorite lens. Cheers!
 

KMFJD

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It started with laptops and then quickly evolved into anything larger than a cell phone. I will pack the body and two secondary lenses and carry on my favorite lens. Cheers!
In March, the United States banned large electronics in cabins on flights from 10 airports in the Middle East and North Africa over concerns that explosives could be concealed in the devices taken onboard aircraft.

The ban has been lifted on the nine airlines affected – Emirates, Etihad Airways, Qatar Airways, Turkish Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Royal Jordanian , Kuwait Airways, EgyptAir and Royal Air Maroc – which are the only carriers to fly direct to the US from the region.
 

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Whatever you think you heard is completely wrong. There is no ban or new regulations against DSLR equipment as a carry on. I take a 5D markiii, C300, lens, lectrosonic audio equipment, go pro and all sorts of batteries and misc items all the time. I've got a special international travel rolling bag that will fit into any plane, minus the puddle jumpers. Never had an issue.
 

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I think it really depends on the mood and knowledge of the particular TSA agent you happen to run into that day. They are the big authority at an airport and their word stands over anyone's even if they're completely wrong. If they never saw a DSLR before and are afraid of circuit boards that show up on the Xray, they may freak out and think it's a bomb. I can totally picture the response when you say it's a camera "but why don't you use your phone?".

I think I would chance it myself though, and hope for the best. But it would suck if they confiscate it and you basically lose $1,000+ worth of gear. What's amazing to me is how they pick and choose the things they don't allow on a plane. I won a reward and was flown to company HQ for it and was actually allowed to bring it on the plane. It was a pointy crystal one, could make a hell of a weapon. I could bring that on the plane, but a nail clipper or too much tooth paste is a no no lol.
 

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I think it really depends on the mood and knowledge of the particular TSA agent you happen to run into that day. They are the big authority at an airport and their word stands over anyone's even if they're completely wrong. If they never saw a DSLR before and are afraid of circuit boards that show up on the Xray, they may freak out and think it's a bomb.

You can tell the people who've never flown before....

You think a TSA scanner doesn't know what a DSLR camera is? That's like saying a police officer not knowing what a stop sign in. They are trained to know exactly what it is. Furthermore, if anything is in question, they pull your bag to a separate station, have you open the bag and then they exam the contents (by another TSA agent). They also swab your bag for any residue and test it on the spot. But it's moronic to think they don't know what a camera is. With the 10s of thousands of customers who go through their station each day.....right.
 
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You can tell the people who've never flown before....

You think a TSA scanner doesn't know what a DSLR camera is? That's like saying a police officer not knowing what a stop sign in. They are trained to know exactly what it is. Furthermore, if anything is in question, they pull your bag to a separate station, have you open the bag and then they exam the contents (by another TSA agent). They also swab your bag for any residue and test it on the spot. But it's moronic to think they don't know what a camera is. With the 10s of thousands of customers who go through their station each day.....right.

Like I said, odds are pretty small you'd run into someone like that but you always have those few idiots that might have no idea. Kinda like those teachers that did not know what a clock was because the cover was off.

I admit I've only flown a few times but it was through Canada so they're not quite as bad here. I kept getting "randomly" selected for further screening though, I thought that was rather funny. Ginger discrimination!
 

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Buy a small travel gun case and a flare gun, place expensive products in case with flare gun and lock it, claim it as a firearm at bag check. TSA will xray it but won't open it.

Better yet, pack the case with road flares and wire them all together. Put an electric egg timer in there too.

FTR-My wife and I flew to Maui in June and took our tablets and her laptop on the plane with us in our carry-on bags with no problem.
 

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You can bring them on the plane but will probably have to pull them out of your luggage to go through screening. I have a personal item sized backpack* that I keep my DSLR, batteries, chargers, 2-3 lenses, kindle, liquids bag and battery backup in and have never needed to check my camera equipment. If you put it in a standard sized carry on you may be forced to gate check it if your flight is operated by a small regional jet or if you board in the last group so I always like to have it in my personal item to avoid this issue. If pressed ask to try your luggage in a luggage sizer before being forced to check it. Keep in mind a luggage sizer doesn't mean it will fit on a small regional jet as they have tiny overhead bins that even my internationally sized carry-on won't fit in. So if you're on a CRJ instead of a Boeing\Airbus you might still have to gate check it regardless.

*When stuffed full (which I rarely do) its technically larger than personal item size but agents are much more lax with soft sided backpacks than hard sized luggage, probably because you can squish it down to fit in more places.

I fly with my camera/lenses in my carry-on constantly and have never been told to check it. The security people in the Netherlands took the caps off of all of my lenses to look through them and make sure they were real (wat) but otherwise I've never had an issue.

After traveling through AMS twice I was curious about the increased scrutiny we noticed (They took out all my camera eq, my deodorant and our little windmill souvenir to check over) so I googled around and found out AMS is well known for the thoroughness of their bag checks


He might also be referring to\confusing with the tighter electronics guidelines rolled out in August this year:

the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is implementing new, stronger screening procedures for carry-on items that require travelers to place all electronics larger than a cell phone in bins for X-ray screening in standard lanes.

https://www.tsa.gov/news/releases/2...-baseline-stronger-domestic-security-measures

It doesn't affect TSA-Pre travelers so I haven't had to deal with it so far
 
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Paratus

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We flew from Hou to NY to Dublin and back with a Sony Alpha 77 mkII and a couple of lenses in my book bag with no problems back in June.
 

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You can tell the people who've never flown before....

You think a TSA scanner doesn't know what a DSLR camera is? That's like saying a police officer not knowing what a stop sign in. They are trained to know exactly what it is. Furthermore, if anything is in question, they pull your bag to a separate station, have you open the bag and then they exam the contents (by another TSA agent). They also swab your bag for any residue and test it on the spot. But it's moronic to think they don't know what a camera is. With the 10s of thousands of customers who go through their station each day.....right.
Tell that to this photographer. Not only could the LEO not tell the difference between a tripod and an assault rifle, but he opens fire on the photographer without even attempting to give him a chance to put whatever he was holding down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ltt2Yz2dks
 

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Tell that to this photographer. Not only could the LEO not tell the difference between a tripod and an assault rifle, but he opens fire on the photographer without even attempting to give him a chance to put whatever he was holding down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ltt2Yz2dks
Why exactly would I tell that to a LEO? For the ignorant....

1. LEO is not a TSA agent. They are dealt to deal with deadly situations and make a split decision. TSA agents are trained to scan a bag and identify potentially dangerous devices or substances.

2. A tripod being pulled from a vehicle is NOT a DSLR in a bag being scanned by an x-ray machine. No one ever said anything about whipping out a tripod during a TSA check and it appearing to be a weapon. Or that a DSLR is anything resembling a weapon.

Showing a video that starts right at the shooting proves NOTHING with no context. You might even be interesting to read:

"A newspaper photographer who became the victim of a police shooting has issued a plea for clemency for the sheriff’s deputy responsible."

It's 10 PM and he pulls what looks like a rifle out of the back of a Jeep during a traffic stop.

Furthermore, the photographer says "It's alright, It's my fault"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...99s-deputy-shoot-news-photographer/ar-AArrI7n

That a case of mistaken identify and the officer thought it was a weapon. Your analogy is asinine and completely stupid.
 

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Tell that to this photographer. Not only could the LEO not tell the difference between a tripod and an assault rifle, but he opens fire on the photographer without even attempting to give him a chance to put whatever he was holding down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ltt2Yz2dks


Holy crap, cops in the states are freaking insane. They pretty much treat it like freaking game hunting. What sucks is in shock the guy said "it's my fault" so that pretty much waves any potential for him to sue.
 

Red Squirrel

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Why exactly would I tell that to a LEO? For the ignorant....

1. LEO is not a TSA agent. They are dealt to deal with deadly situations and make a split decision. TSA agents are trained to scan a bag and identify potentially dangerous devices or substances.

2. A tripod being pulled from a vehicle is NOT a DSLR in a bag being scanned by an x-ray machine. No one ever said anything about whipping out a tripod during a TSA check and it appearing to be a weapon. Or that a DSLR is anything resembling a weapon.

Showing a video that starts right at the shooting proves NOTHING with no context. You might even be interesting to read:

"A newspaper photographer who became the victim of a police shooting has issued a plea for clemency for the sheriff’s deputy responsible."

It's 10 PM and he pulls what looks like a rifle out of the back of a Jeep during a traffic stop.

Furthermore, the photographer says "It's alright, It's my fault"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...99s-deputy-shoot-news-photographer/ar-AArrI7n

That a case of mistaken identify and the officer thought it was a weapon. Your analogy is asinine and completely stupid.

You're actually trying to justify what that cop did? Wow. That is what is wrong with America. I have pulled over on the side of the highway at 1am and pulled out my tripod and camera and did not get shot at. One should be able to do something that simple without having to worry about attacked or even killed by cops. Cops shoot to kill, so the only reason this guy is still alive is because he missed the head and got him elsewhere. This could have ended much worse.
 

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Why exactly would I tell that to a LEO? For the ignorant....
1. LEO is not a TSA agent. They are dealt to deal with deadly situations and make a split decision. TSA agents are trained to scan a bag and identify potentially dangerous devices or substances.
2. A tripod being pulled from a vehicle is NOT a DSLR in a bag being scanned by an x-ray machine. No one ever said anything about whipping out a tripod during a TSA check and it appearing to be a weapon. Or that a DSLR is anything resembling a weapon.
Showing a video that starts right at the shooting proves NOTHING with no context. You might even be interesting to read:
"A newspaper photographer who became the victim of a police shooting has issued a plea for clemency for the sheriff’s deputy responsible."
It's 10 PM and he pulls what looks like a rifle out of the back of a Jeep during a traffic stop.
Furthermore, the photographer says "It's alright, It's my fault"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...99s-deputy-shoot-news-photographer/ar-AArrI7n
That a case of mistaken identify and the officer thought it was a weapon. Your analogy is asinine and completely stupid.
Like all placed in positions of power they tend to go overboard and make mistakes. Add to that the human error element in general and you can never predict what might happen.
 

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Buy a small travel gun case and a flare gun, place expensive products in case with flare gun and lock it, claim it as a firearm at bag check. TSA will xray it but won't open it.
I wonder if I can do it with a flit gun.
 

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We flew from Hou to NY to Dublin and back with a Sony Alpha 77 mkII and a couple of lenses in my book bag with no problems back in June.

I was in London in March and had no issues taking my Canon 70D, lenses, batteries, etc. either. I'm going to Italy in a few weeks and am debating whether or not I should take it - from this thread, it looks like it still shouldn't be an issue carrying this stuff onboard an international flight so maybe I will take it.
 

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You're actually trying to justify what that cop did? Wow. That is what is wrong with America. I have pulled over on the side of the highway at 1am and pulled out my tripod and camera and did not get shot at. One should be able to do something that simple without having to worry about attacked or even killed by cops. Cops shoot to kill, so the only reason this guy is still alive is because he missed the head and got him elsewhere. This could have ended much worse.

WTF are you talking about? Spewing more unintelligent bullshit? I never once said the officer was justified or correct in his actions. I only made the point that the analogy was stupid and made no sense.

But you're sitting here saying a TSA agent doesn't know what a camera is and that cops shoot to kill everyone. LOL

And you REALLY want to know why the educational system is failing and we have idiots run amuck spouting non-sense and utter bullshit? Educate, don't hate.

Back to the original point, I've traveled the world and 5 out of the 7 continents. Never once have I had an issue with carrying my gear on a plane. But you can listen to some bozo who got to travel on a plane once to his company because he won something! He's all knowledgeable on the subject. Plus all cops shoot to kill. Who knew?