Usa begins firing tomahawk missiles at Libya

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sportage

Lifer
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BIG MISTAKE!!!
People just love the first few hours/days of a war.
Remember Bush's Iraq, the first Bush.
The pretty night fire. The bombs. The sound. CNN reporters hiding under tables. That "glow" in the sky. And forever...CNN.
New witty terminology like "Shock and awe".
Turns out that "awe" is pretty darn shocking expensive.
But hell... lets just pass that cost onto other folks...,
like our kids, seniors and education cuts. Fuck! Why Not?
It's kind of like nintendo! ohhhhh WOW!
Enjoy your "AWE".
 

her209

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just send my kid the bill for those missles, as usual.
Those missiles were bought and paid for already. Also, your priorities are a little misplaced if you're complaining about 110 missiles being used when the defense budget is $726+ billion and going up every year.
 

Dominato3r

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Seen through night-vision lenses aboard amphibious transport dock USS Ponce (LPD 15), the guided missile destroyer USS Barry (DDG 52) fires Tomahawk cruise missiles in support of Operation Odyssey Dawn.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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Exactly. If Obama is so generous with other people's money, he can send some of it to me. I'll only require 1 million please.

In military terms, he's not nearly so generous with it as your hero, GWB. And he hasn't invented reasons to invade another country, either.

None of which will penetrate your closed consciousness, at all.

I would, however, prefer that our involvement be totally covert. When the fuel supplies for Moammar's fighter bombers go boom, claim it was rebel sappers. Don't declare a no-fly zone- give the rebels their own manpads and the minimal training it takes to use 'em, let 'em create their own no-fly zone. Do the same with anti-tank rocketry. Heck, buy foreign made stuff on the international market thru a CIA front. Stage cyber attacks on his governmental infrastructure, find ways to slow down his money. Pay his pilots to defect- it's rumored that they're mostly foreign mercenaries, anyway. Have the Tunisians and the Egyptians front for us. Lots of ways to do it.

The irony of all this probably isn't lost on Kaddafi- he was the Bushistas' best buddy in N Africa for giving up his supposed "nuclear program" and now the Obama Admin is trying to take him down... Just goes to show ya that the Americans aren't to be trusted...
 

kranky

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I am having a very difficult time understanding why we need to be involved in this.
 

wuliheron

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I am having a very difficult time understanding why we need to be involved in this.


Not you dummy, the beautiful people with the real money need us to be involved. What? Did you think the world actually revolved around you just because you have the right to vote?
 

werepossum

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The cruise missiles are mostly just to scare people and maybe get a few quick targets of opportunity before everyone ducks for cover. By the time you hear them they're already past you and over the horizon out of sight. Very intimidating.

Then there's the modified C130 known as "Puff" that can level a football field with just bullets in 30 seconds. The noise alone will send them running like so many cockroaches. But, they have to wait until the skies are clear to bring that in.

Boys and their toys, what are you gonna do?
Wait, isn't a football field pretty much level to begin with? :D

I'd prefer to take the USA isolationist, but since we're not, this seems like a pretty reasonable response. If we're to ask that other NATO countries help when he think our national interests are at stake - and the UK and Canada have really stepped up - then it's only fair we do the same when they think their own national interests are at stake. We'll do what we do much better than our allies, and they'll do the bulk of the rest. (Hey, at least Tomahawk missiles are manufactured domestically. If we must spend money we don't have, at least we're spending it on American-manufactured goods.)

And for goodness' sake - Denmark is a country of around 4 million IIRC. Denmark sending six fighter/attack jets is a major contribution for them.
 

CanOWorms

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If we're to ask that other NATO countries help when he think our national interests are at stake - and the UK and Canada have really stepped up - then it's only fair we do the same when they think their own national interests are at stake.

Perhaps their national interests are against our national interests.
 

bamacre

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Actually the use of these missiles will help the US economy, someone has to manufacture new ones.

Yes, spending a crapload of resources making things that aren't of any use to Americans is good for the economy. :\

If you really believe this, you simply do not understand what a good economy is.
 

Throckmorton

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There are already troops on the ground. These targets don't just magically get selected. Unless you want to believe that it's all done by satellite imagery lol.

Considering the military has access to live satellite imagery, I don't see why it wouldn't be done by satellite...
 

Throckmorton

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Question for all the sudden pacifists: If preventing a totalitarian dictator from massacring a peoples' rebellion isn't the correct use of military force, what is?
 

chucky2

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Question for all the sudden pacifists: If preventing a totalitarian dictator from massacring a peoples' rebellion isn't the correct use of military force, what is?

Nuh uh....we liberated Iraq and all we got from the Bleeding Hearts was that it was an illegal action and unjustified because we didn't find WMD, despite all the other benefits they chose to dismiss.

Bringing up the potential positive of overthrowing this POS dictator - just like Saddam was - isn't proper: Those with a Righty stance on foreign policy tried that logic here when we liberated Iraq and got it thrown right back in our faces.

Try again....
 

Vic Vega

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I love seeing these threads and wondering how many posters could potentially be called to fight in a war in Libya. We currently don't have enough service personnel to fight in 3 wars.

Surrrreee we do. You do realize there are US military personnel who have never been rotated into Iraq or Afghanistan and that there are entire (literally) armies which have not been activated in the Iraq or Afghanistan wars?

I'm not saying we should go to war in Libya... in fact I don't think we should be involved at all, even with cruise missiles, but to suggest the US is not capable of it is silly.