USA becomes Food Stamp Nation

[Zorkorist]

So you want people to have no health care or transportation?

Those are so far above normal peoples needs, that only Government could mandate Health Care or Transportation.

-John

 

[MovingTarget]

Except democrats have destroyed the family and marriage. So your family of three is husband/wife/kid.

This was the goal all along, destroy the family unit of husband and wife and make folks dependent on government money.

Fuck be upon Obama.

Bull. If anything, this government money keeps families afloat so that they can spend time together. If anything, you can say the same damn thing about Republicans because their policies got rid of the high paying union jobs - you know, where one income could support a traditional family so that a spouse could stay at home to raise the child.

 

[Infohawk]

We cannot afford this, infohawk, morally or fiscally.

You seem ready and willing to avoid the moral dilema, and continue paying folks for doing nothing, but yet you take arms against paying illegal alliens for doing something?!

-John

There is no moral issue here. Helping people eat is not wrong at all. We don't have a food shortage in the US so it's not like we have to choose which citizens eat.

Yes, I want to help my countrymen before I help someone living in a dictatorship or who is in the country illegally. (And you're not going to convince me illegals put more into the system than they get from it.)

 

[MovingTarget]

Food stamps are obviously for the non-working, under-class of American Society.

Now, go back and re-read original posters post.

-John

The OP is terrible. Food stamps are often used by the working poor. It is a fact of life. A job does not guarantee that you can make ends meet.

 

[Zorkorist]

It was Government Regulation. Unionization, Taxation, and Environmentalism, that killed the American worker.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

The OP is terrible. Food stamps are often used by the working poor. It is a fact of life. A job does not guarantee that you can make ends meet.

Yeah, it more or less does.

If you have a job, you will live, eat, and have shelter.

You can pay for utilities, and misc expenses.

YOU CANNOT PAY $300 for insurance, lol.

YOU CANNOT PAY $100 for gas, lol.

-John

 

[rchiu]

Barney,

Are you serious? Cause you just gave me a big lol.

Of course it starts with shelter..
then food,
then clothing,
utilities,
misc expenses...

THEN you get to health care, or gas.

-John

Heh yeah like I said, depends on what you think you are entitled to. When first generation immigrants came to this country, they get sick, they drink mom's hot soup or other remedy. No body think they are entitled to cars, they walk, bike, public transportation, they figure out something. They share small apartment with couple of families, they go to wet/farmer's market to get cheap vegi and meat.

But hey, these days, Americans are too good for those things. Everyone is entitled to cars, healthcare, clean up scale shopping environment....and on other people's dime too.

 

[Zorkorist]

Yeah, it more or less does.

If you have a job, you will live, eat, and have shelter.

You can pay for utilities, and misc expenses.

YOU CANNOT PAY $300 for insurance, lol.

YOU CANNOT PAY $100 for gas, lol.

-John

On the other hand, Government dependents;

get food stamps,

government housing,

education and transportation credits,

insurance credits,

health care,

etc.

-John

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Bitch works 4-6 hours a day tops and then has the nerve to cry about being poor. I guess the other 10 hours a day she sits watching Maury Povich on cable couldn't be better spent working a part time job?
Her husband has been laid off 3 times. I've seen guys like him before. Any idea why he happens to be the first guy to get laid off at three jobs? Probably shows up late or not at all, lazy, etc..
I'm also tired of the there is no work BS. I'm a felon. Yes a felon and I don't blame anyone but myself. The point is I've been able to find work and haven't had a thing handed to me once. 70% of the jobs I go to it's an automatic No. You think I'm gonna feel sorry for some scum sucking leaches like these punks?

 

[Zorkorist]

On the other hand, Government dependents;

get food stamps,

government housing,

education and transportation credits,

insurance credits,

health care,

etc.

-John

Ah, fake money, ain't it grand?

-John

 

[Svnla]

On the other hand, Government dependents;

get food stamps,

government housing,

education and transportation credits,

insurance credits,

health care,

etc.

-John

Don't forget about Earn Income Credit.

 

[Zorkorist]

Don't forget about Earn Income Credit.

Can't forget about the Earned Income Credit.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Not a Debit to taxes payable, but a credit, to taxes unpaid!

A Gift for liviing and beautifying this world.

-John

 

[Spikesoldier]

If anything, one full time job should be enough to sustain a family of 3.

this might have been true in 1950. since then, women have decided to enter the workforce and wanted to be treated the same. nowadays, you need two incomes to be socioeconomically equal to what the man brought home in 1950.

congrats women, you got what you wanted: to be treated the same. now you have to work for a living like the man, alongside the man.

the idea of the man bringing home the bacon is a figment of the past.

 

[Slew Foot]

this might have been true in 1950. since then, women have decided to enter the workforce and wanted to be treated the same. nowadays, you need two incomes to be socioeconomically equal to what the man brought home in 1950.

congrats women, you got what you wanted: to be treated the same. now you have to work for a living like the man, alongside the man.

the idea of the man bringing home the bacon is a figment of the past.

No you dont, you can easily live a similar lifestyle on one income now as you did then. Problem is poor people now complain that their cellphone doesnt get enough text messages, their cable doesnt get ESPN14, their house only has 4 bathrooms, and their 2nd car cant tow the boat.

 

[Infohawk]

No you dont, you can easily live a similar lifestyle on one income now as you did then. Problem is poor people now complain that their cellphone doesnt get enough text messages, their cable doesnt get ESPN14, their house only has 4 bathrooms, and their 2nd car cant tow the boat.

Why are people ranting about these things? We're talking about providing food to poor people, not the next iphone.

 

[Zorkorist]

We're not, Infohawk.

This is the crux of the matter.

There are very few poor people in the United States.

There are less poor people that cannot find a job.

But yet our Government has built up this huge infrastructure, so no child is left behind.

They ( the Government) have spent like there is no tomorrow.

The people that need food today, are more likely to be the people that Government has abandoned or criminalized.

Mental patients, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc.

-John

 

[Generator]

That bitch has a job morons. I guess she should pull a little harder on those bootstrap though? Works 26 hours because Walmart's labor is staffed with slaves...

This whole thread is testamount to rubes endless race to the bottom. Don't worry I'm sure she'll be working 70 hrs for $4/hr soon enough. Her food stamps will consist of year old bread and swill mixture for her children.

I don't know about you people, the whole "I gots mine, fuck the rest" mentality doesn't serve anybody. Its a great society this whole race to the bottom, except when it comes your time to be on the foodstamps. LOL who we kidding that shoe will never be on the other foot for you pioneers!

 

[Cerb]

So some bitch is taking food stamps and complaing about it while living under mOm's roof?

Get a fucking job! If that one isn't good enough, then get another one!

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Uh, lack of jobs. If you see help wanted signs everywhere, consider your area a lucky one. Over half the jobs I've gotten interviews for over the last couple years ended up being retracted, and some (un?)lucky SOB got more responsibility without more pay, instead of someone (me, please?) being hired. So, it's short-term this, short-term that, whittle the account on down, short-term something else, find that my unemployment put household income over the limit for food stamps (yeah, I tried), and so on. On the negative side, I've all but given up on finding a real job, and it's generally depressing as hell searching, as I could keep money for longer by not doing so, as it has generally cost me more than it has made. There's some work, but very little in the way of a traditional job (IE, known regular paycheck). On the positive side, I'm trying to become one of those, "made a home-based business because the job market sucks sweaty monkey balls," statistics. Worst case, I should lose about as much money as job hunting (seriously, local job searching is expensive, and networking and Craigslist have gotten me my best paying short-term gigs). Best case will be that I have an excuse to lose many times that, in hopes of a profit in some distant future .

And, you know, about 3/4 of my diet is WIC approved, so if I could just get a sex change and pop out a kid, I'd be good to go...D:

Well depends on who you talk to. Some new immigrants will tell you they can feed a family of 10 on $240 a week. Compare to where they come from, that's already decent money and they know how to tough it out. For other American with their entitlement attitude, $240 is of course not enough with their daily steak and lobster dinners.

$24/mouth/week is not toughing it out, unless you live a very high COL area, or have a special diet that genuinely precludes common affordable foods. $24/week for one person should allow for good food, even being picky about quality (I'm a gourmand with allergies and chemical sensitivities, and I don't spend that much, unless you count fuel). For 10 people, with per-unit discounts in play, that should be some mighty good eats. Huevos rancheros, FI, made for several people, should be south of $1/person, and is a nutrition-packed delicious breakfast or lunch meal. Swap it up with oatmeal for extra savings to put towards meaty dinners.

It was Government Regulation. Unionization, Taxation, and Environmentalism, that killed the American worker.

-John

Before that, it was an an uninvolved government letting employers get away with too much, shitty working conditions, shitty living conditions, and pollution. Of course, pollution still kills American workers. Sorry about your libertarian dream world, but back here in reality, the American worker got screwed by those that paid him, and then decided to not care and screw himself and his children, too.

this might have been true in 1950. since then, women have decided to enter the workforce and wanted to be treated the same. nowadays, you need two incomes to be socioeconomically equal to what the man brought home in 1950.

congrats women, you got what you wanted: to be treated the same. now you have to work for a living like the man, alongside the man.

the idea of the man bringing home the bacon is a figment of the past.

Women becoming a major part of the peacetime workforce may have diluted the value of male work some, but movers and shakers giving up long-term health for short-term profits, the war on poverty, and the Joneses* blindly daydreaming about never-ending prosperity and American Exceptionalism, are what really did it.

* Specifically, that you commonly have choices of much low quality, much high quality, or little low quality. As a society, the concept of high value at low quantity/size/cost has all but disappeared. A great example would be during the housing bubble, where a typical working family would be choosing between bad apartments, small houses in crime-ridden neighborhoods, or McMansions (the Joneses themselves being those that truly wanted McMansions). Small houses and nice apartments were harder to come by, entirely due to the desire to appear to have a high status by having many and large things, and people not keen on that idea were faced with choices made based on that idea permeating our society.

 

[nonameo]

I'm also seeing a trend in the article. They're picking people in NY and CA, the highest cost of living areas in the nation. The eventual path of democrat policies.

Can't afford to live there? Fucking move.

But, what if you can't afford to move? That costs money too ya know.

 

[bfdd]

if everyone was paying 30%, even these poorer, would you feel so robbed helping them with food stamps?

 

[senseamp]

Typical rightwing "welfare queen driving Caddillac" nonsense.

 

[Lithium381]

So you recognize that it's a problem that people are forced to work jobs that pay less than living wage? How do you propose we make it so people don't have to stay long term in non-living wage jobs?


Here's my proposal. Make it illegal to pay less than a living wage. Problem solved.

Here's my proposal. Make it illegal to not take personal responsibility for yourself and your family. Problem solved.

Honestly.... if you're going to try to have a government mandate that guarantees a minimum amount of pay, you MUST have within that same governmental mandate that guarantees a certain level of skill for a given type of work. Much like a national UNION.

You say "you have to pay at least $24/hr for every person working at your fast food joint, because that's what it takes to survive in this area" . . . . . how many people are worth $24/hr to microwave $0.50 cheeseburgers?? Not going to happen.

You're now saying if it's down to hiring a 19 year old with no HS diploma, a 40yr single mother of two, or a 24yr old recent college grad to take that job........ no wonder nobody is hirable anymore...

part-time = no benefits. part-time = a flexible schedule.

Why do you somehow have this notion that companies don't have a bottom line and the government should dictate how much labor is worth?

 

[Broheim]

Typical rightwing "welfare queen driving Caddillac" nonsense.

this x1000

 

[Ausm]

So some bitch is taking food stamps and complaing about it while living under mOm's roof?

Get a fucking job! If that one isn't good enough, then get another one!

What the hell is wrong with these people?

I heard you sit at home while your old lady makes the cash wtf is the difference?