US woman sues casino that 'offered dinner instead of $43m jackpot'

[davmat787]

I'm NOT too disappointed, that I don't spend lots of time localizing codebases.

Modern life, does seem to mean that the furthest, far off countries, are nearer than ever. By the abundance of air flights all over the place, and quicker still the internet and modern communications systems.

I wonder how many people are going to read this post/thread and forum, who can't speak or understand a word of English. So they use google translate or similar, so that they can read it.

Sometimes one of the interesting cpu articles is written in German, so I rarely but sometimes use google translate to read it. It is not perfect and a bit funny, but I can usually understand it well enough to get the gist of it.
But all Chinese stuff, can still be problematic. E.g. The only datasheet available for some cheap items, that comes from China, is an all Chinese datasheet. Especially when only the images of the instructions are available, rather than text format. E.g. Some ebay items, maybe.

With the amazing advances in natural language processing I'm both surprised and disappointed translating software hasn't advanced in proportion at all and from a developer standpoint I would think it would be easier to do. I feel your pain trying to read technical writing especially via translation.

Any insight why translation software has seemingly lagged in progress when compared to natural language processing?

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

With the amazing advances in natural language processing I'm both surprised and disappointed translating software hasn't advanced in proportion at all and from a developer standpoint I would think it would be easier to do. I feel your pain trying to read technical writing especially via translation.

Any insight why translation software has seemingly lagged in progress when compared to natural language processing?

My thoughts (which could easily be non-optimal, especially as I have never worked in that field), would be that things these days (especially on the internet), are geared to making money/profit. So specifically improving technical translations, would only give a slight increase in profits, and hence a return on investments in that area.
Also so many things have been created/improved by the fact that there are so many tens of millions of posts/interactions/web-pages, which gives huge learning data for any AI processing software to chew through and/or programmers/developers/data-analysts etc to processes and use to improve their work.
Whereas there are relatively VERY few engineers/programmers/developers/experts/scientists, who need/use such facilities. That lack of data/information, may be holding things back.
Also understanding a highly technical English (or any other language) document, is going to be considerably harder, for an AI or similar, translation program to process.
I.e. Even a normal Human, who is 100% literate, but 0% technical, would have difficulty understanding and translating well, a highly complicated technical document.

As the years go on, the translating software does seem to be getting better and better. At least from my perspective.

 

[Paladin3]

It really does take a total degenerate in the pockets of business to argue that it's 100% not in the interest of a casino to minimize payouts however dubiously.

Yup, just cashed my degenerate-shill check yesterday. Headed to Vegas to gamble it away.

Oh, fuck...I'll bite and reply...

If nobody wins then nobody plays. If nobody plays then fewer dollars get gambled. Casinos make their money by keeping a portion of the total gambled, not by winning every bet or play. So cheating players is NOT in any casinos best interest and actually loses them money.

And there is nothing dubious about not paying off on a malfunctioning machine. I've explained at length why, but you just want to call names and troll. Your shtick is really getting old.

Edit: And please don't reply by trying to refute my logic and facts. Just come up with something you think is witty and degrading, while ignoring the facts of the debate.

 

[agent00f]

Yup, just cashed my degenerate-shill check yesterday. Headed to Vegas to gamble it away.

Oh, fuck...I'll bite and reply...

If nobody wins then nobody plays. If nobody plays then fewer dollars get gambled. Casinos make their money by keeping a portion of the total gambled, not by winning every bet or play. So cheating players is NOT in any casinos best interest and actually loses them money.

And there is nothing dubious about not paying off on a malfunctioning machine. I've explained at length why, but you just want to call names and troll. Your shtick is really getting old.

Edit: And please don't reply by trying to refute my logic and facts. Just come up with something you think is witty and degrading, while ignoring the facts of the debate.

That must be why gaming machines payouts are strictly regulated. As we all know it never pays to break the rules.

 

[alien42]

yeah, I also heard about it. maybe it is smth common for some of casinos.

a long dead thread that hasn't been posted in in three years that is necro'd by a first time poster who doesn't even provide an update to the OP.

what a strange world we live in.

 

[interchange]

yeah, I also heard about it. maybe it is smth common for some of casinos.

Holy thread bump Batman.

Curious if there was an outcome in this case published. Looking at it, if the casino was negligent in not patching a known bug, I'd say they should be liable for damages incurred (emotional distress) thinking she won the $43M, which probably isn't all that much.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Holy thread bump Batman.

Curious if there was an outcome in this case published. Looking at it, if the casino was negligent in not patching a known bug, I'd say they should be liable for damages incurred (emotional distress) thinking she won the $43M, which probably isn't all that much.

Seems like nothing yet 2020 article on the matter

Biggest Slots Malfunctions in History – Inside Pulse

So how does a slot machine malfunction???

insidepulse.com

 

[hal2kilo]

2^32 is not 43 million though. It's 4,294,957,296 or 4.3 billion. If it's programmed to error check that the jackpot shouldn't be in the billions then why isn't it checking that it shouldn't be in the millions if the max payout is in the thousands as some have said?

Lazy coders? My experience with programming is that I spend way more time error checking input than actually doing the work result of the program.

 

[Moonbeam]

All gambling without equal odds for all players should be punishable by death. Gambling is an addiction and nobody should ever be allowed to profit from other people's mental illness that does not evolve best science understood treatment. Gambling ruins the lives of countless children and nobody who profits from the addiction of gamblers doesn't know this. They deserve death for what they will do to kids and no society should allow this crime to exist.

 

[FaaR]

On the one hand I think she is trying it on, wanting $43 million, from a (presumably) low payout gaming machine.
But on the other, I think she should have had more compensation, such as $1,000 or something.

Fuck that casino. As far as I'm concerned they should have to pay that woman $43 BILLION. Fucking thieving thieves and heartless greedy bastards is what they are, stringing people along to part with their money in "games" that are rigged to lose a majority of the time.

Every casino should be burnt to the fucking ground and everyone owning one or running one (including online shit which is making people gamble away their entire lives and more besides sometimes) should be taken out back and given a royal treatment.

Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

 

[woolfe9998]

All gambling without equal odds for all players should be punishable by death. Gambling is an addiction and nobody should ever be allowed to profit from other people's mental illness that does not evolve best science understood treatment. Gambling ruins the lives of countless children and nobody who profits from the addiction of gamblers doesn't know this. They deserve death for what they will do to kids and no society should allow this crime to exist.

Everyone has their pet thing that they want people killed for. Well, not me as I oppose capital punishment.

Drugs are also an addiction that ruins people's lives and people profit from it. Should every drug dealer be killed?

 

[amenx]

a long dead thread that hasn't been posted in in three years that is necro'd by a first time poster who doesn't even provide an update to the OP.

what a strange world we live in.

Since its casino related, could be potential spammer who may later edit his post to add link to gambling site?

 

[Moonbeam]

Everyone has their pet thing that they want people killed for. Well, not me as I oppose capital punishment.

Drugs are also an addiction that ruins people's lives and people profit from it. Should every drug dealer be killed?

I would point out that gambling is regulated but legal. People who profit off addictive drugs and tobacco deserve to be put to death. I also am opposed to capital punishment. You seem to think that because I think someone deserves death that means I want them to be killed. They deserve it but killing is wrong. Behaviors that deserve death should not be permitted to exist. But there is money to be made and if a person is an addict that addict does all of the talking and forming of opinions. Capital punishment is wrong so why should people be able to kill themselves, their families and friends or other members of society. Addicts have less free will than a child but we and they claim they have choice. People who think like that deserve to die but the laws we live by are created in a state of sleep. Society is insane. That was clear to me by the age of 7. In an insane asylum you go along with the program or they will put you in a real one.

I've heard you can leave your wallet in the street in any city in Saudi Arabia and come back and get it the next day. They cut your hand off for theft and nail them to walls for everybody to see but not many hands ever get cut off, theft being exceptionally rare. What is better? The terrible suffering that having your live violated by theft of cutting off a few hands?

Why can Trump manage to destroy our nation? It's because Americans just don't give a fuck. We do, however, have a nice murder rate. I have a feeling behind apathy there's a lot of pent up rage.

 

[skull]

I would point out that gambling is regulated but legal. People who profit off addictive drugs and tobacco deserve to be put to death. I also am opposed to capital punishment. You seem to think that because I think someone deserves death that means I want them to be killed. They deserve it but killing is wrong. Behaviors that deserve death should not be permitted to exist. But there is money to be made and if a person is an addict that addict does all of the talking and forming of opinions. Capital punishment is wrong so why should people be able to kill themselves, their families and friends or other members of society. Addicts have less free will than a child but we and they claim they have choice. People who think like that deserve to die but the laws we live by are created in a state of sleep. Society is insane. That was clear to me by the age of 7. In an insane asylum you go along with the program or they will put you in a real one.

I've heard you can leave your wallet in the street in any city in Saudi Arabia and come back and get it the next day. They cut your hand off for theft and nail them to walls for everybody to see but not many hands ever get cut off, theft being exceptionally rare. What is better? The terrible suffering that having your live violated by theft of cutting off a few hands?

Why can Trump manage to destroy our nation? It's because Americans just don't give a fuck. We do, however, have a nice murder rate. I have a feeling behind apathy there's a lot of pent up rage.

As a former dope fiend I take that as an insult, I had a choice to use for the first time and I made a conscious choice to keep using despite knowing physical addiction would take over, but then I made a conscious choice to quit and I continue to make a conscious choice not to pick up again. My addiction was not my drug dealers fault, it was mine and no one elses, most of them were actually normal cool people. Got cool with a few hardcore, slang on the street corner, gang affiliated dealers. I was tight enough with the one he invited me to one of his family barbecues. Good people, dude didn't deserve the prison time he ended up getting much less death.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

As a former dope fiend I take that as an insult, I had a choice to use for the first time and I made a conscious choice to keep using despite knowing physical addiction would take over, but then I made a conscious choice to quit and I continue to make a conscious choice not to pick up again. My addiction was not my drug dealers fault, it was mine and no one elses, most of them were actually normal cool people. Got cool with a few hardcore, slang on the street corner, gang affiliated dealers. I was tight enough with the one he invited me to one of his family barbecues. Good people, dude didn't deserve the prison time he ended up getting much less death.

Hey congratulations and good work man.
Don’t be offended if you ever catch me saying addicts have defective thinking. Not meant to be an insult, meant to be an observation in a loving sort of way. Difficult to watch someone important to you continually make the wrong decisions.

 

[ch33zw1z]

As a former dope fiend I take that as an insult, I had a choice to use for the first time and I made a conscious choice to keep using despite knowing physical addiction would take over, but then I made a conscious choice to quit and I continue to make a conscious choice not to pick up again. My addiction was not my drug dealers fault, it was mine and no one elses, most of them were actually normal cool people. Got cool with a few hardcore, slang on the street corner, gang affiliated dealers. I was tight enough with the one he invited me to one of his family barbecues. Good people, dude didn't deserve the prison time he ended up getting much less death.

Thanks for your anecdote, again. But try not to assume you're the rule, and discount others inability to self regulate. For every one of you, there's thousands of others who can't.

 

[woolfe9998]

I would point out that gambling is regulated but legal. People who profit off addictive drugs and tobacco deserve to be put to death. I also am opposed to capital punishment. You seem to think that because I think someone deserves death that means I want them to be killed. They deserve it but killing is wrong. Behaviors that deserve death should not be permitted to exist. But there is money to be made and if a person is an addict that addict does all of the talking and forming of opinions. Capital punishment is wrong so why should people be able to kill themselves, their families and friends or other members of society. Addicts have less free will than a child but we and they claim they have choice. People who think like that deserve to die but the laws we live by are created in a state of sleep. Society is insane. That was clear to me by the age of 7. In an insane asylum you go along with the program or they will put you in a real one.

I've heard you can leave your wallet in the street in any city in Saudi Arabia and come back and get it the next day. They cut your hand off for theft and nail them to walls for everybody to see but not many hands ever get cut off, theft being exceptionally rare. What is better? The terrible suffering that having your live violated by theft of cutting off a few hands?

Why can Trump manage to destroy our nation? It's because Americans just don't give a fuck. We do, however, have a nice murder rate. I have a feeling behind apathy there's a lot of pent up rage.

Your original statement was -

All gambling without equal odds for all players should be punishable by death.

There is no possible way to interpret this totally unambiguous statement as meaning anything other than you support capital punishment for running a casino.

In the future, we can avoid confusion if you choose your words with some care.

 

[interchange]

Oh to go back to the time I thought a person couldn't truly believe in 2 things which are completely incompatible with each other at the same time (much less recognize it within themselves). The easier solution is to read @Moonbeam 's signature.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Your original statement was -



There is no possible way to interpret this totally unambiguous statement as meaning anything other than you support capital punishment for running a casino.

In the future, we can avoid confusion if you choose your words with some care.

A morality-based query:

Approximately how many individual lives must be objectively fucked up/ruined by a single individual before a conclusion is drawn that aforementioned single individual shouldn't belong within our society? Is it definable, or undefinable/Infinite?

 

[rstrohkirch]

So we went from machine errors and how they should be handled to the morality of enablers and death sentences.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

So we went from machine errors and how they should be handled to the morality of enablers and death sentences.

Aaaaackchewally we went from a conversation about machine errors and handling two years ago, then it got necro'd and a new topic kinda got fleshed out here. If bothers you that much, you could always ask the mods to lock the thread I suppose.

 

[Moonbeam]

Your original statement was -



There is no possible way to interpret this totally unambiguous statement as meaning anything other than you support capital punishment for running a casino.

In the future, we can avoid confusion if you choose your words with some care.

Perhaps your and my idea of the meaning of caring are not the same.. Perhaps what you call caring I call neglect or avoidance of intractable issues.

Can you tell me how you deal with your own life on an emotional level in a society that will allow gambler’s addiction to exist to the extent that whole families can be utterly destroyed by it Is that the price you are willing to pay for a nice weekend at the slots in Reno? You manage fine but what about the children of parents who steal the love and support due their husbands or wives and children to feed their gambling addiction? Do you ever feel rage? Have you let it possess you to the point of knowing it’s limits, that a lifetime of the deepest suffering and expression of that rage can never change one single thing?

I will feel better about your opposition to capital punishment when you truly know you can apply it to someone who has sadistically murdered a family member for whom you would give your life.

I would be opposed to capital punishment, all right, in your case did something like that happen to you, but if I found the killer dead and blood on your hands, I would walk away and not lose any sleep.

I believe that what is rational and scientifically factual and how I feel are different things and that I want to know and experience what each of them are. I think that the opinions people have about who they are and who I can see they are makes them quite absurd. One of the absurditiesI have noticed about myself is that I tell myself I am not like that but different. I can also see that if I reject the reality that I am absurd, it will only add to my need for denial.

Let me change the subject. San Francisco has homeless people that sleep in businesses doorways and defecate on the street. That kind of thing would not happen in a conservative city. Also, all of those behaviors are against the law but mostly caused by mental illness and drug addiction. We have two political reactions, ignore or lock them up. Both are insane but one will ultimately be favored after folks step in enough shit. The truth is always some third way, the resolution of opposites at a higher level of understanding.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Aaaaackchewally we went from a conversation about machine errors and handling two years ago, then it got necro'd and a new topic kinda got fleshed out here. If bothers you that much, you could always ask the mods to lock the thread I suppose.

Bother is going the wrong direction, I find it hilarious. Someone pops into a thread and says enablers should be killed and then the 80% of the conversation rotates to the new subject. Yet no one except one person, from what I can tell, is saying WTF on Mr. Looney Tunes over here.

I should start a thread on sugar that way he can pop in and say all the enablers in the food industry should be murdered because obesity kills like 300k people each year in the US. Imagine how many families are destroyed by that. I could post 2 Rambos then.

 

[Moonbeam]

As a former dope fiend I take that as an insult, I had a choice to use for the first time and I made a conscious choice to keep using despite knowing physical addiction would take over, but then I made a conscious choice to quit and I continue to make a conscious choice not to pick up again. My addiction was not my drug dealers fault, it was mine and no one elses, most of them were actually normal cool people. Got cool with a few hardcore, slang on the street corner, gang affiliated dealers. I was tight enough with the one he invited me to one of his family barbecues. Good people, dude didn't deserve the prison time he ended up getting much less death.

My belief is that, like you, I easily experience the reactions of other people to me as insults. I believe this is because I have repressed the memories of actually being made to feel I am deserving of them but that the weeping s of worthlessness they caused me to feel, though deeply repressed, are the truest thing about me. In this way I try to ignore see that it is me who gives reality to feeling insulted. An additional understanding that goes along with seeing life in this way is a distance I can create intellectually between what I feel is true and what actually is.

Emotionally, then, though my desire is to make somebody else pay for how bad I was made to feel, I see that as an irrational waste of energy. People are asleep and you can’t blame then for anything. So, while you are simply reacting to me mechanically, insulted by nothing but your own inner truth, my desire to get angry at you for being insulted is equally stupid. I am mechanically defensive. Didn’t really mean to insult you. We suffer from the past and nobody is to blame. The only escape is to wake up. Not so easy.....

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Bother is going the wrong direction, I find it hilarious. Someone pops into a thread and says enablers should be killed and then the 80% of the conversation rotates to the new subject. Yet no one except one person, from what I can tell, is saying WTF on Mr. Looney Tunes over here.

I should start a thread on sugar that way he can pop in and say all the enablers in the food industry should be murdered because obesity kills like 300k people each year in the US. Imagine how many families are destroyed by that. I could post 2 Rambos then.

Excluding killing, do you then feel as though individuals can cause infinite pain/anguish/death to other humans without being removed from society, or at minimum the position that grants them the ability to continue causing said pain/anguish/death?