US unveils new citizenship test

zinfamous

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This is brilliant. Extra credit awarded to each instance of Irony: The test-ee can point out each incident in which our Administration has blatantly ignored the Democracy and Civil Liberty laws that they are required to learn.
 

Schadenfroh

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Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.
2. Learn the Bill of Rights.
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.
 

Aisengard

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3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.

Hence the reason it is a list of what I believe should be involved in gaining US citizenship and not the actual requirements.
 

Aisengard

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.

Hence the reason it is a list of what I believe should be involved in gaining US citizenship and not the actual requirements.

Hence the reason why I disagree with you?
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.

Hence the reason it is a list of what I believe should be involved in gaining US citizenship and not the actual requirements.

Hence the reason why I disagree with you?

Hence the reason I misread your post.
 

techs

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From the new test:

Why does the United States have three branches of government?

So someone can rubber stamp what the President does.

Name two rights that are only for US citizens
1) The right to invade the country of our choice.
2) The right to expect everyone to speak English. Especially foreigners.

Name two cabinet-level positions
1) The Arabian Horse Association, also known as FEMA. (You're doing a heckuva job, Brownie)
2) Department of Imprisonment and Torture.

Name one important idea found in the Declaration of Independence
Taxation without representation is bad, and with representation its worse.

What does the Constitution do?
Nothing, its just a god-da*n piece of paper.
 

Kwaipie

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.
2. Learn the Bill of Rights.
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

I think that list would disqualify the majority of people who are ALREADY citizens. If the average American can write, read and speak English at an 8th grade level, I'd be surprised. And if our elected officials can't seem to familiarize themselves with the Bill of Rights, I strongly suspect the average Joe hasn't bothered.

Edit: As for "loyalty oaths", I suspect that wasn't quite what you meant to say...even government employees aren't required to swear loyalty to the country so much as the ideals behind the country.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: techs
Name one important idea found in the Declaration of Independence
Taxation without representation is bad, and with representation its worse.
Freedom of Speech!
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.
2. Learn the Bill of Rights
.

so, yeah...looks like W would fail miserably

3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

I still don't see what makes us so special in that we should be the only free country to make such an asinine requirement of our unnatural citizens. Perhaps you'd be happier back in your home country: North Korea?
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

It wasn't need back then, it is now.

 

zephyrprime

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

It wasn't need back then, it is now.
Actually, there were LOTS of foreign language speakers and people that couldn't speak english at all back then. This is no surprise considering a huge portion of the population were immigrants. I believe the second most common language back then was German.

 

flyboy84

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

It wasn't need back then, it is now.
Actually, there were LOTS of foreign language speakers and people that couldn't speak english at all back then. This is no surprise considering a huge portion of the population were immigrants. I believe the second most common language back then was German.

I believe there were some people who actually wanted German to be the official language of the U.S. instead of English...Ben Franklin also wanted the national bird to be a Turkey instead of an Eagle :confused:
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

It wasn't need back then, it is now.
Actually, there were LOTS of foreign language speakers and people that couldn't speak english at all back then. This is no surprise considering a huge portion of the population were immigrants. I believe the second most common language back then was German.


Yes, but most people made efforts to learn english and assimilate into our culture. The Spanish speaking illegal aliens are not willing to do this.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.

Hence the reason it is a list of what I believe should be involved in gaining US citizenship and not the actual requirements.

Hence the reason why I disagree with you?

Hence the reason I misread your post.

Hence I guess you flunked the 1st requirement-- 1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

We are probably the only country on the face of the earth that bends over backwards to accomodate people who do not speak english.......
1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.--I agree totally!!!
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

We are probably the only country on the face of the earth that bends over backwards to accomodate people who do not speak english.......
1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.--I agree totally!!!


eh, Europe is doing a pretty good job bending over backwards for the muslims, seems to be working out well for them too, lol. Unfortunately, I don't think that our fate will be much different as far as the Mexicans are concerned if we continue on our path of pandering to the hispanics.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: flyboy84
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

That's odd, where in the Constitution does it say English is the official language?

It wasn't need back then, it is now.
Actually, there were LOTS of foreign language speakers and people that couldn't speak english at all back then. This is no surprise considering a huge portion of the population were immigrants. I believe the second most common language back then was German.

I believe there were some people who actually wanted German to be the official language of the U.S. instead of English...Ben Franklin also wanted the national bird to be a Turkey instead of an Eagle :confused:

the person that wanted the language to be German was Ben Franklin. Pretty logical, really.Part of the divorce from the King...why should we speak his language?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

great, just what we need is to mandate even more nationalism. Oh and loyalty oaths and renounciations really don't mean anything.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Personally, I think this should be our "test of citizenship"

1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.
2. Learn the Bill of Rights.
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.
I agree completely, with all three.
 

BDawg

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Do you think Bush can pass it?

Of course he can. He'd write a signing statement declaring that the President automatically gets a 95. Why 95? "Don't want anyone to think I've been cheatin'."
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Aisengard
3. Swear loyalty to the United States and renounce your old nation.

So this means there can be no dual-citizenships in America. Don't think so. My grandmother immigrated from Germany before the war and she never had to renounce her home country.

Hence the reason it is a list of what I believe should be involved in gaining US citizenship and not the actual requirements.

Hence the reason why I disagree with you?

Hence the reason I misread your post.

Hence I guess you flunked the 1st requirement-- 1. One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above.

Not at all, misinterpreted would be a better way to describe what happened.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: JD50

It wasn't need back then, it is now.

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Whoops!
Someone just failed the "One should be able to read, write, and speak English at an 8th grade level or above" test.

;)