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US under Bush embraces torture

GrGr

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Red Cross Finds Detainee Abuse in Guantánamo

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"The construction of such a system, whose stated purpose is the production of intelligence, cannot be considered other than an intentional system of cruel, unusual and degrading treatment and a form of torture," the report said. It said that in addition to the exposure to loud and persistent noise and music and to prolonged cold, detainees were subjected to "some beatings." The report did not say how many of the detainees were subjected to such treatment.

Asked about the accusations in the report, a Pentagon spokesman provided a statement saying, "The United States operates a safe, humane and professional detention operation at Guantánamo that is providing valuable information in the war on terrorism."

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There is proof the Bush administration sanctions torture. Is there proof that the UN sanctions rape and prostitution?
 
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US

so ... this is ok?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: theblackbox
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US

so ... this is ok?


is war ok? though we don't like it, it's a sad reality of the brutality of humanity. war is ugly, if we could do away with war, that would be great, if everyone could get along, that would be great, but unfortunately it won't go away and you can't sweep it under the rug.


 
Problems we create, governments that we lose control of, weapons we distrubute, policies we implement that cause these problems. Everything in the world is a circle, nothing acts in a vacuum. You think the Islamic World woke up one day and thought "HMM LETS HATE THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD."
 
Originally posted by: slyedog
more bleeding heart liberal bullshit and outright lies from these same idiots that hate America.
Yea, ummm... the Red Cross needs to be done away with :roll:😉
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: theblackbox
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US

so ... this is ok?


Yes it is.

 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: theblackbox
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US

so ... this is ok?


is war ok? though we don't like it, it's a sad reality of the brutality of humanity. war is ugly, if we could do away with war, that would be great, if everyone could get along, that would be great, but unfortunately it won't go away and you can't sweep it under the rug.



Excellent point. But this thread by the OP is just another " look how bad America is under G.W.Bush "
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
no country is above torture, not at least in history. war sucks. getting caught and taken prisoner sucks.
if the tortue saves lives, good. if it's for the thrill, thats sick. thats the difference between pol pot and the US

Pol Pot did it for the good of the people. In his view, at least.
 
Originally posted by: slyedog
more bleeding heart liberal bullshit and outright lies from these same idiots that hate America.



Yup.


" against ... against .. against " ... Zell Miller's speech to the RNC.
 
Well it's interesting that we are no longer a good nation, just less evil than others.

Gives me a real sense of national pride :roll:
 
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