US Troops kick arse at Baghdad Airport

BaliBabyDoc

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Much has been written about how Iraqis complicated the task of rebuilding their country by looting it after Saddam Hussein's regime fell. In the case of the international airport outside Baghdad, however, the theft and vandalism were conducted largely by victorious American troops, according to U.S. officials, Iraqi Airways staff members and other airport workers. The troops, they say, stole duty-free items, needlessly shot up the airport and trashed five serviceable Boeing airplanes. "I don't want to detract from all the great work that's going into getting the airport running again," says Lieut. John Welsh, the Army civil-affairs officer charged with bringing the airport back into operation.

"But you've got to ask, If this could have been avoided, did we shoot ourselves in the foot here?"

What was then called Saddam International Airport fell to soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Division on April 3. For the next two weeks, airport workers say, soldiers sleeping in the airport's main terminal helped themselves to items in the duty-free shop, including alcohol, cassettes, perfume, cigarettes and expensive watches. Welsh, who arrived in Iraq in late April, was so alarmed by the thievery that he rounded up a group of Iraqi airport employees to help him clean out the shop and its storage area. He locked everything in two containers and turned them over to the shop's owner. "The man had tears in his eyes when I showed him what we had saved," says Welsh. "He thought he'd lost everything."

U.S. estimates of the cost of the damage and theft begin at a few million dollars and go as high as $100 million. Airport workers say even now air conditioners and other equipment are regularly stolen. "Soldiers do this stuff all the time, everywhere. It's warfare," says a U.S. military official. "But the conflict was over when this was done. These are just bored soldiers." Says Welsh: "If we're here to rebuild the country, then anything we break we have to fix. We need to train these guys to go from shoot-it-up to securing infrastructure. Otherwise we're just making more work for ourselves. And we have to pay for it."

 

CaptnKirk

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Our looters can out loot your domestic looters.

And if that's not enough looting, we've still got Enron to show how to loot.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Despite the accumen of our domestic looters (Detroit, South Central) I don't think we've got anything comparable to people that take light fixtures. Americans have standards . . . we only take items that are expensive or otherwise hard to come by.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Despite the accumen of our domestic looters (Detroit, South Central) I don't think we've got anything comparable to people that take light fixtures. Americans have standards . . . we only take items that are expensive or otherwise hard to come by.

Speak for yourself.
 

LunarRay

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What ever was there belongs to the Iraqi people and those who destroy or otherwise deprive the Iraqi from posession of the property should be made to replace it.. with the exception being that which was destroyed during the seige or attack... war type activity..
 

Tab

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Oh no! Bad US! Soldiers! You liberals are fcvking idiots. You should go do some learning on what the russians did during world war II. They raped so many women people started to belive that it was normal for the russian army to do so.

Airport workers say even now air conditioners and other equipment are regularly stolen.

Yea, US Soldiers are stealing air conditioners.....pfft...
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Oh no! Bad US! Soldiers! You liberals are fcvking idiots. You should go do some learning on what the russians did during world war II. They raped so many women people started to belive that it was normal for the russian army to do so.

Airport workers say even now air conditioners and other equipment are regularly stolen.

Yea, US Soldiers are stealing air conditioners.....pfft...


Well... I guess you are a conservative and support or condone what you've written above... Re: the russian notion of to the victor the spoils???
 

MrChicken

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It's easy to criticize from here.

Try going weeks without sleep, decent food or bathing. Then add fear of dying at any second for any number of reasons. Think about leaving your wife without a husband and kids without a dad. Try being shot at and shooting back. Watch guys you know get killed and wounded. Kill somebody, maybe a lot somebodies.

Now after you've kicked butt and lived to tell about, try letting some soft ass sitting at home on his pc back in the world tell you that you cant grab that bottle of JD in the duty free shop. or some music, a watch, whatever...

We train our soldiers to forget the number one rule of civilization, to kill their fellow man, and we expect them to remember every other rule. They shouldnt be looting, the officers should be watching them, but it happens.
 

UltraQuiet

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We train our soldiers to forget the number one rule of civilization, to kill their fellow man, and we expect them to remember every other rule.

Yes we do. We spend big money and invest a lot of time doing just that. These guys aren't draftees who have spent 90 days in the .mil or some mob pulled off the street. They are professional soldiers and therefore are required to act like professionals at all times. If it was just the booze and smokes, I could understand they were just blowing off some steam, relaxing a bit. It would still be wrong but somewhat understandable. However, when you start vandalizing and stealing things like Rolex's you're obviously way out of the box.

This is assuming that the article is accurate, of course.