US Troops in trouble..

Miramonti

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I question whether they are just the fall guys for superiors that subscribe or even promote this type of treatment.
 

Phuz

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Originally posted by: jjsole
I question whether they are just the fall guys for superiors that subscribe or even promote this type of treatment.

The charges were denied by the Pentagon.

Of course not. ;)

I can understand their anger, though.
 

CaptnKirk

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Seems like we get accused of this every time that we find pinatas on the battlefield.
 

phillyTIM

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US Troops were in trouble the moment George Weasel Bush stole the '00 Election, and now they (and we) are paying the price.
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.
still doesnt make it right or even acceptable
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.
still doesnt make it right or even acceptable

Not saying that it does, it's wrong and they know it just as well as we do. Their actions were wrong, I just don't feel that I'm in a position to condemn them as people because I don't know what I would have done in their same situation. Hope I explain myself.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.
still doesnt make it right or even acceptable

Not saying that it does, it's wrong and they know it just as well as we do. Their actions were wrong, I just don't feel that I'm in a position to condemn them as people because I don't know what I would have done in their same situation. Hope I explain myself.
they are expected to follow the rules, and they are expected to know how to cope with it
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.


I have to admit I would resign the day we started an offensive war....so this would'nt be a problem for me. Now someone invade us and all bets are off.. I see the enemy I will kill them.. Much Like Iraqis are doing, No?
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

Gee, sounds like a great way to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. This, and killing innocent civilians every time someone says they saw Saddam or any other "playing card."

Two things we need to accomplish, and fast.

1. Get Bush and Co. the hell out of Washington.
2. Get our troops the hell out of Iraq.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.

Not to mention they will probably return to a Vietnam welcome, seeing as how it has become popular and kosher to criticize our involvement and think of our troops as invaders and occupiers as well as killers of women and children(shhhh....since they had AK-47's and was firing on us, but don't tell anyone).
 
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.


I have to admit I would resign the day we started an offensive war....so this would'nt be a problem for me. Now someone invade us and all bets are off.. I see the enemy I will kill them.. Much Like Iraqis are doing, No?

'Iraqis' aren't doing this...terrorists are. And just what the hell are they 'defending themselves' against in your deluded mind? Liberation from a brutal regime?
rolleye.gif
 

phillyTIM

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i guess iraqis who don't want the us in their country and fight back are now branded as terrorists...lol
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.

Not to mention they will probably return to a Vietnam welcome, seeing as how it has become popular and kosher to criticize our involvement and think of our troops as invaders and occupiers as well as killers of women and children(shhhh....since they had AK-47's and was firing on us, but don't tell anyone).

so are you suggesting that we are not invaders and occupiers? Oh right, we're liberators less I forget.
rolleye.gif
 

BOBDN

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I heard a quote from an Iraqi business owner in Baghdad.

His opinion is the Iraqis have gotten rid of one repressive regime only to be replaced by one that is worse.

But I suppose his opinion doesn't matter. After all it's only his country.
 
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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
i guess iraqis who don't want the us in their country and fight back are now branded as terrorists...lol

You're implying that they'd rather have things back the way they were. That's, frankly, stupid.
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
i guess iraqis who don't want the us in their country and fight back are now branded as terrorists...lol

You're implying that they'd rather have things back the way they were. That's, frankly, stupid.

In your opinion. A lot of Iraqis have said that things were better under the old regime.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.


I have to admit I would resign the day we started an offensive war....so this would'nt be a problem for me. Now someone invade us and all bets are off.. I see the enemy I will kill them.. Much Like Iraqis are doing, No?

'Iraqis' aren't doing this...terrorists are. And just what the hell are they 'defending themselves' against in your deluded mind? Liberation from a brutal regime?
rolleye.gif

Why did you use quotes to say something I did'nt even say? Delusional? I never said they were defending anything I said they, either so called Dead enders or a real resistance movement, is targeting what they feel is the enemy in thier country.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.
still doesnt make it right or even acceptable

He isn't saying that it does, you are dealing with what ought to be while he is dealing with what is.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Zebo
Not only did 5 get killed 8 maimed in the last 24 hours some are losing thier cool and Charged with POW abuse.

I cannot imagine what these guys are going through. I don't know how I would react if my friend was blown to bits or if I had to tell him that he would never walk again. I would be mad, so I don't want to judge these guys. It's easy for us to say that the right thing would be to take the high road, but all of us are sitting safely behind computers.


I have to admit I would resign the day we started an offensive war....so this would'nt be a problem for me. Now someone invade us and all bets are off.. I see the enemy I will kill them.. Much Like Iraqis are doing, No?

'Iraqis' aren't doing this...terrorists are. And just what the hell are they 'defending themselves' against in your deluded mind? Liberation from a brutal regime?
rolleye.gif

Stop with that BS. Liberation? You mean forced millitary occupation followed by a foreign mode of government? Whats not to love about foreign invaders telling you what form of government to have?

 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
i guess iraqis who don't want the us in their country and fight back are now branded as terrorists...lol

You're implying that they'd rather have things back the way they were. That's, frankly, stupid.

Is it? Since when did you become an expert on knowing what others really want, even though they say they want something else? It is all about choices, if you were to give the iraqi people a choice right now between being ruled by an oppressive iraqi, of occupied by a foreign army, which would they choose?
 

Amirtallica

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It's called professionalism. These guys have a duty to keep their cool.
Look at it this way, if after September 11th, Bush had lost his cool and attacked countries that had nothing to do with the hijackers for revenge what would the world think of us?
 

kornermi

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
i guess iraqis who don't want the us in their country and fight back are now branded as terrorists...lol

You're implying that they'd rather have things back the way they were. That's, frankly, stupid.

No, he is not. You see, this kind of thought process of yours is the one that really disturbs me, and it is abundantly displayed by many right wing type.(sorry for the stereotyping) We destroyed Sadam, and you are resisting against us now, therefore you must be trying to have things back the way they were! Did it ever occur to you that a lof of Iraqis who were suffered from Sadam's brutal regime and wanted people's government may also resent occupation by foreign army?
 

phillyTIM

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Originally posted by: Amirtallica
It's called professionalism. These guys have a duty to keep their cool.
Look at it this way, if after September 11th, Bush had lost his cool and attacked countries that had nothing to do with the hijackers for revenge what would the world think of us?
You just described what Bush actually did, to Iraq, to a T.