US to give up remaining control of the Internet

nageov3t

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U.S. officials announced plans Friday to relinquish federal government control over the administration of the Internet, a move likely to please international critics but alarm many business leaders and others who rely on smooth functioning of the Web.

Pressure to let go of the final vestiges of U.S. authority over the system of Web addresses and domain names that organize the Internet has been building for more than a decade and was supercharged by the backlash to revelations about National Security Agency surveillance last year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...7472d0-abb5-11e3-adbc-888c8010c799_story.html

it'll be interesting to see what the practical impact is, but it seems like a legitimate use of "thanks, Obama!"
 

Fern

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IMO, this could be terrible news.

Here's an article on Putin's plan for "world domination".

His third plank:

There’s a third plank to Russia’s ambitious programme to shape the world in its image: an ongoing campaign to redesign the global architecture of the internet to allow more control by individual states. Since the foundation of the world wide web, its effective control centre has been at the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers — known as ICANN, the non-profit organisation that assigns internet addresses and traffic routes based in Los Angeles, California. Russia has long demanded that ICANN be moved out of the US — and has been quick to seize on the leaks of the National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden’s reports as a tool to topple the US from the moral high ground of internet user freedom and embarrass Washington.

Last November a delegation of Russian senators and Foreign Ministry officials paid an official visit to the US to complain to American service providers for failing to guarantee user privacy. They also renewed demands to reform ICANN. A logical enough demand, on the face of it, after Snowden’s revelations revealed deeply flawed oversight systems over America’s spies. But the problem with dismantling ICANN is that it could lead to an increase in the control allowed to individual states not only over their own internet space — which they have already — but over the entire world wide web. In other words, Russia could block someone it doesn’t like in Germany by invoking an anti-terror clause and shutting down opponents’ domain name server, or DNS, the basic address book of the internet. Without a DNS, web pages become unfindable and effectively disappear.

The issue of who controls the internet will be debated at a major international conference next year, the biggest such confab since 2005. Strategically, Russia has clearly set its sights on two goals: wresting control of the internet away from the US, and creating a new definition of ‘cyber-terrorism’ that’s as loose as its own legislation on ‘extremism’, which has recently been used to prosecute eco-activists, peaceful protestors, independent media outlets and gay activists. Russia’s suggestion is to shift control of the internet away from ICANN to the International Telecommunication Union or ITU, the United Nations agency responsible for co-ordinating global use of the radio spectrum and satellite orbits. The ITU’s basic charter guarantees freedom of access to the internet — except, crucially, in cases of cyber–terrorism. Over the last ten years Russia has tried three times in the UN and once in the Organisation on Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) to push through resolutions on cyber terror on the internet. But such legislation has been opposed by the US and Europe because ‘the only practical implications of such a move would be to allow countries to suppress dissent,’ says Alexander Klimburg, an adviser on cyber security to the OSCE.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9142182/putins-masterplan/

This admin seems hell-bent on abdicating its leadership and turning over authority to other countries.

Fern
 
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Thebobo

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I'm scared very scared.

At least according to that post I should be. BTW do you have a source/link to the website where Putin lays out his plans for world domination.

I hear Putin will be CEO of Comcast to.
 

Fern

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Sorry, I put the link in above.

Well, it remains to be seen how much control Putin will be able to exert. If the article is correct the UN will end up with control. I prefer we kept it.

Fern
 

werepossum

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Sorry, I put the link in above.

Well, it remains to be seen how much control Putin will be able to exert. If the article is correct the UN will end up with control. I prefer we kept it.

Fern
I too would prefer that we kept it, although with the ongoing NSA scandals I can see how other nations would feel the opposite. Either way, it's inevitable. We no longer have a majority who believe this nation is even above average, much less superior, and it's for damn sure the rest of the world does not feel that way. Although oddly enough they still seem to want to come here. Odd that . . .
 

spidey07

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Don't mess with any of the numbering authorities. It's working just like it should, just as designed and agreed upon.

The reason why this whole Internet thing works is because of those agencies. We invented the Internet, that means we get to maintain it's order.
 
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DominionSeraph

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I too would prefer that we kept it, although with the ongoing NSA scandals I can see how other nations would feel the opposite. Either way, it's inevitable. We no longer have a majority who believe this nation is even above average, much less superior, and it's for damn sure the rest of the world does not feel that way. Although oddly enough they still seem to want to come here. Odd that . . .

Why so Big Gubment? If we're the greatest, won't our private industry win out, and thus manage it with the Undeniable Infallibility that God bestows on the wealthy through the perfection of the Free Market, which indisputably sanctifies anything regulated by the transfer of MONEY (Holy Be Its Name!)

You're not a commie, are you?
 
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cubby1223

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Why so Big Gubment? If we're the greatest, won't our private industry win out, and thus manage it with the Undeniable Infallibility that God bestows on the wealthy through the perfection of the Free Market, which indisputably sanctifies anything regulated by the transfer of MONEY (Holy Be Its Name!)

You're not a commie, are you?

I believe you have some misspelled words in there.
 

cubby1223

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Interestingly, censorship over the internet, specifically the great firewall of China, is a major positive for the U.S. job market. It's limiting their ability to freely learn knowledge and skills important to securing better paying jobs. We'd be getting eaten alive even more so if China opened up their internet!
 

TerryMathews

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Why so Big Gubment? If we're the greatest, won't our private industry win out, and thus manage it with the Undeniable Infallibility that God bestows on the wealthy through the perfection of the Free Market, which indisputably sanctifies anything regulated by the transfer of MONEY (Holy Be Its Name!)

You're not a commie, are you?

Your post would make sense if we were deregulating it. We're not. We're taking the girl out of the abusive step father's house and giving her to a convicted pedophile.

Tl;dr libtards gonna tard.
 

DominionSeraph

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I believe you have some misspelled words in there.

I just don't like the gubment taxing us hook us on the ICANN dole. Why should we live with their handouts?
Back in my day we wrestled domain names with our bare hands and wore the pelts to keep us warm.
 

Lepton87

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As long as Russia and other regimes are kept out of this I don't care.
There’s a third plank to Russia’s ambitious programme to shape the world in its image

That's really disturbing. Sadly no one wants to oppose Putin, Europe is dependent on Russian natural resources so all that Europe's leaders will do is talk and the U.S doesn't give a damn.
 

cubby1223

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I just don't like the gubment taxing us hook us on the ICANN dole. Why should we live with their handouts?
Back in my day we wrestled domain names with our bare hands and wore the pelts to keep us warm.

You're almost cute when you attempt sarcasm... almost :)
 

Jay5

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35207993&postcount=23





Ever since the story broke I've been calling this. There has been great pressure to get the US out of control of the Internet. The NSA scandal has been the lynchpin to make it happen.

you make it sound like we'll be better if another country controls the internet.you do relize some of these countrys like Russia arent exactly in the greatest shape right,ill take my american owned,free internet over some communist dictatorship owned internet
 

unokitty

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Vint Cerf on the ITU

Is the I.T.U. and its effort to take over governance a threat to an open Internet?

People complained about my nasty comment. I said that these dinosaurs don’t know that they’re dead yet, because it takes so long for the signal to traverse their long necks to get to their pea-sized brains.

Some people were insulted by that.

I was pleased.

It’s not at all clear to me that I.T.U.’s standards-making activities have kept up with need.

The consequence of this is that they are less and less relevant.

While its true that I don't trust the UN's ITU, its also true that I don't trust the US Government either.

Consequently, if the father of the Internet isn't woried, I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.

Uno
 
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drebo

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Itu != icann

Also, this is terrible and has the potential to be really bad.

All this bullshit in the name of "antiterrorism."

You know who the biggest terrorists are? THE FUCKING US GOVERNMENT.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Why so Big Gubment? If we're the greatest, won't our private industry win out, and thus manage it with the Undeniable Infallibility that God bestows on the wealthy through the perfection of the Free Market, which indisputably sanctifies anything regulated by the transfer of MONEY (Holy Be Its Name!)

You're not a commie, are you?

Or maybe, just maybe our government and its spy agencies like the NSA is publically "giving up control" because they already infiltrated so deeply into most internet and major intranet systems around the world that its not even a issue. Naw....that could never be it right? LOL