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Whiskey16

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Here's what you don't seem to comprehend. The major problem between Israel and Palestine doesn't involve a racial component. Are there racists, on both sides? No doubt. But trying to make this look like a racist issue overall only serves to make you a fool. It's a minor component of a far larger issue.
Thank you, for soundly demonstrating that you have lost yet another argument and remain willfully ignorant that the directly presented legal definition of racial discrimination is not limited to your projected and limited bias but expands into that of national and ethnic origin.

  • Expansionist Zionist outside of the state of Israel and into Palestine is to its core, national supremacism. Bigoted racism into the acts of apartheid are what the state of Israel are guilty for.
  • Palestinian aspirations to their countering but legally entitled self-determination to retain their territory and state, is also to its core, that of nationalism.
I predict, TasteLikeChicken, that after this little outburst by you, many in the forum will now recognise what a waste of time it is to reasonable present a discussion with you.

You will over and over argue for an argumentative sake, repeat with the same error while flippantly ignoring the concise corrections.

My previous and informative post ("wall of text") was wasted upon you, but I prefer to have hope of plenty of others in this forum to have the honest inquisitiveness to respectfully learn.
 
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monovillage

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With the nations of Europe and the rest of the world lining up to support the PLO bid to receive non-member state status at the UN General Assembly, it is worth noting two anniversaries of related but forgotten events.

Of course, everyone knows the obvious anniversary - Nov. 29, 1947 was the day the UN General Assembly passed the plan to recommend the partition the British Mandate of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews accepted the plan. The Arabs -- both local and regional - rejected it. The local Arabs who 25 years later became known as "Palestinians," responded to the passage of UNGA resolution 181 by launching a terror war against the Jews. Their war was commanded by Iraqi and Lebanese terror masters and supported by the British military and its Arab Legion from Transjordan.

On May 15, 1948 five foreign Arab armies invaded the just-declared Jewish state with the declared aim of annihilating all the Jews.

Now for a couple less known anniversaries

On November 28, 1941 the religious and political leader of the Palestinian Arabs and one of the most influential leaders of the Arab world Haj Amin el Husseini met with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. Husseini had courted the Nazis since just after the Nazis rose to power in 1933. Husseini was forced to flee the British Mandate in 1937 when he expanded his fourth terror war against the Jews, that he began in 1936 to include the British as well.He fled to Lebanon, and then in October 1939 he fled to Iraq. In April 1941 he fomented a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq. As the British -- with massive unheralded assistance from the Jews from the land of Israel -- were poised to enter Baghdad and restore the pro-British government, Husseini incited the Farhud, a 3-day pogrom against the Jews of Baghdad that took place over the festival of Shavuot. 150 Jews were murdered. A thousand were wounded and 900 Jewish homes were destroyed.

With the coup defeated and the Jews murdered, Husseini escaped to then pro-Nazi Iran and then in October to Germany by way of Italy. (He was flown out of Iran on an Italian Air Force plane, and feted by Mussolini when he landed in Rome).

He arrived in Berlin and two and a half weeks later he had a prolonged private meeting with Hitler. There, on November 28, 1941, two months before the Wannssee Conference, where the German high command received its first orders to annihilate European Jewry, Hitler told Husseini that he intended to eradicate the Jewish people from the face of Europe.

Husseini remained in Berlin through the end of the war and served as a Nazi agent. In Berlin he broadcast daily diatribes to the Arab world on German shortwave radio in Arabic. Specifically Husseini exhorted them to kill the Jews in the name of Allah and make common cause with the Nazis who would deliver them from the Jews, the British and the Americans.

In 1943 Husseini organized the Hazhar SS Division of Bosnian Muslims. His division carried out the massacre of 90 percent of the Bosnian Jewish community of 12,000.

In 1920 Husseini personally invented what later became known as the Palestinian national movement. He shaped its identity around the sole cause of destroying the Jewish presence in the land of Israel.

During the war Husseini used his broadcasts to shape the political and religious consciousness of the Muslim world by fusing Islamic Jew hatred with annihilationist Nazi anti-Semitism. Whereas much of the Nazi anti-Semitic ideology was discredited in postwar Europe, it has remained the single most resonant theme of Arab politics since World War II.

In 1946, as his fellow Nazi war criminals were being tried in Nuremberg, Husseini made a triumphant return to Egypt where he was welcomed as a war hero by King Farouk, the Muslim Brotherhood and the young officers in the Egyptian army who fused Nazi national socialism with the Islamism of the Muslim Brotherhood and took over Egypt after deposing Farouk in 1951.

The founder of Palestinian nationalism's singleminded dedication to the genocide of Jewry brings us to the second notable but forgotten anniversary we passed over this month.

On Nov. 12 1942 the British led forces -- with the massive and unreported support of Jewish commando and engineering units from the land of Israel -- defeated Germany's Afrika Corps led by Gen. Rommel in the second Battle of Alamein. With the German defeat, the specter of a German occupation of the Middle East was removed. Husseini and Himmler had planned that under German occupation, the Arabs would expand the Holocaust to the 800,000 Jews of the Arab world and the 450,000 Jews in the land of Israel. To this end, the Germans had organized the Einzatzgruppen Afrika unit attached to Rommel's army. Under the command of SS LTC Walter Rauff, it was tasked with murdering Jews located in the areas that were to come under German occupation.

It is fitting that yesterday, on the anniversary of Hitler's meeting with Husseini, Germany announced that it would not oppose Husseini's heirs' bid to receive UN recognition of a Palestinian state that seeks Israel's destruction.

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2012/11/a-few-notable-anniversaries-on.php

Just a bit of history that most people don't know and lefties don't want them to know.
 

Nebor

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My previous and informative post ("wall of text") was wasted upon you, but I prefer to have hope of plenty of others in this forum to have the honest inquisitiveness to respectfully learn.

Everything you write here is wasted. You're not changing anyone's mind, and everyone sees you for the terrorist supporter and muslim apologist that you are. Have you noticed that in the time since you've started posting here, more people are opposed to your ideas than when you started?
 

Whiskey16

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Ahhh, the anti-Muslim brownshirts for Israeli Zionism are popping up again:
Everything you write here is wasted. You're not changing anyone's mind, and everyone sees you for the terrorist supporter and muslim apologist that you are.
Thank you, Nebor, it is time for again to place your hypocritical stance into the accurate context for what a violent and criminal insurgent that you are against your own country, and for why you have been banned from this forum before:

But like I said, those of us with more than an academic knowledge of you and your kind wouldn't mind if you filmed us while we put your entire extended family in one mass grave, because we know eventually it'll be you or us. We either fight now...

Nebor, proudly on record with in his open death threats against fellow forum members for simply voicing differing and non-violent political opinions went on to declare:

...a broad, general warning to everyone like you: It's just a matter of time until the West wakes up to the subversiveness of your words and actions intended to destroy our society with it's own virtues. When that time comes, it'll be bad news for people like you living among us, advocating for terrorists.
As Breivik did in massacring a portion of the Workers' Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway, Nebor is on record for desiring the death of us all, as also being branded as "enemies."

With such over-the-line and criminal extremism on the forum record, it should also be sadly recognised that Nebor proudly proclaims himself as a serving member in the US military. The very same organisation that he has falsely sworn oaths to uphold, but in fact threatens with insurgent goals to piss upon and wage a violent war upon his own country and that of its allies.
 
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Thank you, for soundly demonstrating that you have lost yet another argument and remain willfully ignorant that the directly presented legal definition of racial discrimination is not limited to your projected and limited bias but expands into that of national and ethnic origin.

  • Expansionist Zionist outside of the state of Israel and into Palestine is to its core, national supremacism. Bigoted racism into the acts of apartheid are what the state of Israel are guilty for.
  • Palestinian aspirations to their countering but legally entitled self-determination to retain their territory and state, is also to its core, that of nationalism.
I predict, TasteLikeChicken, that after this little outburst by you, many in the forum will now recognise what a waste of time it is to reasonable present a discussion with you.

You will over and over argue for an argumentative sake, repeat with the same error while flippantly ignoring the concise corrections.

My previous and informative post ("wall of text") was wasted upon you, but I prefer to have hope of plenty of others in this forum to have the honest inquisitiveness to respectfully learn.
Like I said previously, trying to make this look like a racial issue only serves to make you a fool. Then you go and enhance that fool status with some chest-thumping and imaginings of how others in here are learning from your words of wisdom. More likely, folks in here recognize you for the blindered, one-sided hack that you are on the Israel/Palestine issue.

Here's a little hint for you. You can randomly post all the definitions you want but if those "legal" definitions aren't put into play they don't mean squat. Has the UN officially stated that Israel is an apartheid state? Of course they haven't. Does anyone other than the fringiest of Palestinian shills believe what is going there is apartheid? No, they don't. Your weak attempt to try and forcibly shoehorn that word onto the situation doesn't change a thing, other than to further enhance your fool status.
 
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Ahhh, the anti-Muslim brownshirts for Israeli Zionism are popping up again:Thank you, Nebor, it is time for again to place your hypocritical stance into the accurate context for what a violent and criminal insurgent that you are against your own country, and for why you have been banned from this forum before:



Nebor, proudly on record with in his open death threats against fellow forum members for simply voicing differing and non-violent political opinions went on to declare:


As Breivik did in massacring a portion of the Workers' Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway, Nebor is on record for desiring the death of us all, as also being branded as "enemies."

With such over-the-line and criminal extremism on the forum record, it should also be sadly recognised that Nebor proudly proclaims himself as a serving member in the US military. The very same organisation that he has falsely sworn oaths to uphold, but in fact threatens with insurgent goals to piss upon and wage a violent war upon his own country and that of its allies.

Anti-Muslim? Nice resorting to the Islamophobic card. People aren't anti-Muslim for supporting Israel
 

EagleKeeper

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Ahhh, the anti-Muslim brownshirts for Israeli Zionism are popping up again.

Why is it that Israel can cooperate with other Muslim countries that want to be friendly and have trade with her.

It is the Palestinians (non country by choice), Iran and a few others that despise and refuse to work with her.

These are the ones that are willing to sacrifice their citizens for religious ideology.

People also do not have to be anti-Muslim to not tolerate people that are against Israel.
I have respect for Iraqis, Jordanians and Syrians, Egyptians and Saudis that I have met.
I have also seen people from these same countries spit down on Palestinians.
Now how can an anti-Palestinian be a good Muslim?
 
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Lemon law

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I wonder how EK can ask, "Why is it that Israel can cooperate with other Muslim countries that want to be friendly and have trade with her."

As EK is now simply living in the past. What Muslim countries still co-operate or trade with Israel? As all Israeli diplomatic advances were lost two or three years ago, if they were not lost totally lost far earlier than that. Where is the Israeli Co-operation Egypt had under Mubarak? Turkey used to have strong trade and economic co-operation with Israel, but that is totally gone today over the freedom Flotillas and other issues. . As for Jordan, Jordan placed some faith in the Oslo accords, but now the people of Jordan and the leaders of Jordan are totally disgusted with Israel. As for Iraq, its people and its leadership, EK would be very foolish to count on them. Maybe Israel can still count on Saudi Arabia, but if the House of Faud tries to actively aid Israel, it is likely to be overthrown.

But if I were you EK, I would more worry that no real country in the EU voted on the Israeli side on the Palestinian upgrade status on 11/29/2012.
 

JEDIYoda

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I wonder how EK can ask, "Why is it that Israel can cooperate with other Muslim countries that want to be friendly and have trade with her." -- that`s a very true statement!!

As EK is now simply living in the past. What Muslim countries still co-operate or trade with Israel? -- It is you who needs to post a link supporting your revisionist history that no arab countries trade with Israel....in fact I believe it has to do with the shrrooms that you eat....you have no documented proof to back up your diatribe.....and how convenient that there are no reports that are current to prove you right or wrong....


As all Israeli diplomatic advances were lost two or three years ago, if they were not lost totally lost far earlier than that. -- you really do not have a clue do you??


Where is the Israeli Co-operation Egypt had under Mubarak? --Yeah right the Muslim Brotherhood....also you have no proof that Egypt is not dealing with Israel behind closed doors.....or even out in the open...more speculation....

Turkey used to have strong trade and economic co-operation with Israel, but that is totally gone today over the freedom Flotillas and other issues. -- you absolutely sure?? Better check your mistaken assumptions..

As for Jordan, Jordan placed some faith in the Oslo accords, but now the people of Jordan and the leaders of Jordan are totally disgusted with Israel. -- so where did Jordan come out and say that they would have nothing to do with Israel??? I know thats unfair of me to pick apart your diatribe,,,

As for Iraq, its people and its leadership, EK would be very foolish to count on them. Maybe Israel can still count on Saudi Arabia, but if the House of Faud tries to actively aid Israel, it is likely to be overthrown. -- again more assumption......opps diatribe...

But if I were you EK, I would more worry that no real country in the EU voted on the Israeli side on the Palestinian upgrade status on 11/29/2012.

hahahaha Lemon says -- No real country in the EU......so Czech Republic is a fake country?? hmmm......

Interesting article -- http://sg.news.yahoo.com/why-czechs-were-lone-eu-vote-against-palestinians-141102677.html
 

Nebor

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Ahhh, the anti-Muslim brownshirts for Israeli Zionism are popping up again:Thank you, Nebor, it is time for again to place your hypocritical stance into the accurate context for what a violent and criminal insurgent that you are against your own country, and for why you have been banned from this forum before:



Nebor, proudly on record with in his open death threats against fellow forum members for simply voicing differing and non-violent political opinions went on to declare:


As Breivik did in massacring a portion of the Workers' Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway, Nebor is on record for desiring the death of us all, as also being branded as "enemies."

With such over-the-line and criminal extremism on the forum record, it should also be sadly recognised that Nebor proudly proclaims himself as a serving member in the US military. The very same organisation that he has falsely sworn oaths to uphold, but in fact threatens with insurgent goals to piss upon and wage a violent war upon his own country and that of its allies.

You say "us all" in an attempt to conceal yourself amongst others (a classic muslim\terrorist tactic.) You're the only one advocating for your viewpoints here, and what I said was directed at you, your family, and those like you. If you're going to quote me all the time, you might as well pay attention to what you're quoting. :rolleyes:

As for the falsely sworn oaths, insurgency against my own country and it's allies... wtf?

It still cracks me up that the more you rail on about Israel and Palestine here, the fewer people care to hear it. You're literally working against your own cause by alienating people. :D
 

Lemon law

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Wow oh Wow JediY, the Czech Republic has a population of 10.5 million, and the EU has a population of over 500 million. Tell us again why a nation with 2.1% of the EU population will be inordinately influential.

But still its not a matter of present argument, because now its going to be a matter of the future. Will the world now back Israeli renewed intransigence, or will the world dope slap Israel even harder? Stay tuned on this forum for future answers?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Wow oh Wow JediY, the Czech Republic has a population of 10.5 million, and the EU has a population of over 500 million. Tell us again why a nation with 2.1% of the EU population will be inordinately influential.

But still its not a matter of present argument, because now its going to be a matter of the future. Will the world now back Israeli renewed intransigence, or will the world dope slap Israel even harder? Stay tuned on this forum for future answers?

With the acceptance of unlimited casualties on the part of Israel as you propose? Not happening. You have this fantasy of taking Israeli blood, but anyone who tries that will be bitchslapped as you call it. We don't expect even Iran to surrender thousands for execution.

Peace? Maybe someday, but under your conditions? The Palestinians don't want that and I don't want that for them. Hamas perhaps, but not the general population.
 

JEDIYoda

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Wow oh Wow JediY, the Czech Republic has a population of 10.5 million, and the EU has a population of over 500 million. Tell us again why a nation with 2.1% of the EU population will be inordinately influential.

But still its not a matter of present argument, because now its going to be a matter of the future. Will the world now back Israeli renewed intransigence, or will the world dope slap Israel even harder? Stay tuned on this forum for future answers?
That will teach you to talk in absolutes....you said NO real country in the EU....
So what are the requirements for being a real country????

hahahaha Lemon says -- No real country in the EU......so Czech Republic is a fake country?? hmmm......

Interesting article -- http://sg.news.yahoo.com/why-czechs-...141102677.html
 

fskimospy

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You and other Israel/jewish haters are just trying to complicate what is a pretty simple issue. Israel has a right to exist and not have war waged upon it. Have the terrorist attacks and the murders stop and then you can begin negotiations.

I like how the very same people who complain about people playing the race card every time race in America is mentioned take approximately 2 posts to pull the antisemitism card when someone criticizes Israel.

You truly live without irony.
 

Whiskey16

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But like I said, those of us with more than an academic knowledge of you and your kind wouldn't mind if you filmed us while we put your entire extended family in one mass grave, because we know eventually it'll be you or us. We either fight now, alongside Israel, or wait until you convince enough idiots to let you gain the upper hand.
The above is for the context of the previous post's affirmation:
You say "us all" in an attempt to conceal yourself amongst others (a classic muslim\terrorist tactic.) You're the only one advocating for your viewpoints here, and what I said was directed at you, your family, and those like you.
I do not appreciate your repetition of death threats against myself, my family and against anyone who presents a political viewpoint that you concisely reaffirm warrants a replying and direct threat for critical violence upon.

What you have done is a crime in multiple jurisdictions and certainly an offence to your military code of conduct. Anonymity may not be what you hope it to be.

You have again been reported to moderation. For the sake of this forum and the majority of members with civil decency, we should expect more severe consequences against you than your previous, but brief, banishment.

You have already had consequences, but you have chose to reaffirm your violent ways. There must be zero tolerance.

Death threats go far beyond a bit of name calling, trolling, or other all too common forum disruptions.
 

fskimospy

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You say "us all" in an attempt to conceal yourself amongst others (a classic muslim\terrorist tactic.) You're the only one advocating for your viewpoints here, and what I said was directed at you, your family, and those like you. If you're going to quote me all the time, you might as well pay attention to what you're quoting. :rolleyes:

As for the falsely sworn oaths, insurgency against my own country and it's allies... wtf?

It still cracks me up that the more you rail on about Israel and Palestine here, the fewer people care to hear it. You're literally working against your own cause by alienating people. :D

Yeah from those other quotes you seriously need to take a step back and chill out, man. What you are saying is not healthy.
 

Nebor

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The above is for the context of the previous post's affirmation:
I do not appreciate your repetition of death threats against myself, my family and against anyone who presents a political viewpoint that you concisely reaffirm warrants a replying and direct threat for critical violence upon.

What you have done is a crime in multiple jurisdictions and certainly an offence to your military code of conduct. Anonymity may not be what you hope it to be.

You have again been reported to moderation. For the sake of this forum and the majority of members with civil decency, we should expect more severe consequences against you than your previous, but brief, banishment.

You have already had consequences, but you have chose to reaffirm your violent ways. There must be zero tolerance.

Death threats go far beyond a bit of name calling, trolling, or other all too common forum disruptions.

Look, idiot, you can't go around quoting a historical post that you feel is offensive, and then calling the mods about it. :rolleyes:
 

Whiskey16

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so sick of these palestine/israel threads. its circles over and over. :rolleyes:
Yes, the violent tendencies from many in the anti-Arab/Muslim are very real and present.

From death threats against fellow members that fail to get much member response through to advocation of genocide (forced population removal and collective punishment) and apartheid. The bigotry is strong.

Many of those who then raise law in their favour then later whine about the meaningless reality of laws when they are soundly corrected for their misinterpreting errors.. It's a massive circle of failure and regularly advocated criminal intent.
 

Whiskey16

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Look, idiot, you can't go around quoting a historical post that you feel is offensive, and then calling the mods about it. :rolleyes:
It's not just that I feel it to be offensive, it's that a death threat is a certain violation of forum rules (as per your banishment for such an infraction and an infraction that you have learned nothing from) plus is a crime in multiple jurisdiction, including likely that of the host region for this site.

You have no defence. You barge into a discussion to attempt to spread your bigotry and absolute hatred rather than adequately discuss the issues by your typical silencing line of "everyone sees you for the terrorist supporter and muslim apologist that you are..." A member here then has every discussional privilege to clarify the context for whom the poster of such filth is.

You failed to civilly move on, rather you reclarrified the direction of your death threat with, "what I said was directed at you, your family, and those like you."

That is a restatement of the same threat. That is a violent offence.
 

zsdersw

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Israel and the Palestinians have more to gain from perpetual conflict/fighting than they do from peace and a two-state solution. Until or unless that changes we will continue to need to babysit them.
 

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I like how the very same people who complain about people playing the race card every time race in America is mentioned take approximately 2 posts to pull the antisemitism card when someone criticizes Israel.

You truly live without irony.

I'm just showing the connection between Nazi Germany and the present day Israel haters, sorry if being included in that group offends you.
 

fskimospy

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I'm just showing the connection between Nazi Germany and the present day Israel haters, sorry if being included in that group offends you.

Lol, that's pretty pathetic.

You aren't even trying not to be a joke anymore, are you?

I do like how saying that Israel shouldn't violate the Geneva Conventions makes someone in league with the Nazis though. That's pretty awesome.