US Republicans Had Urged Iran to Delay Prisoner Swap, Shamkhani Says

[Gonad the Barbarian]

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Ali Shamkhani said a recent prisoner exchange between Iran and the US went ahead as planned despite calls by Republicans for a delay until US presidential elections.

“In the course of the talks for exchanging prisoners, the Republican rivals of the current US administration who claim to be humanitarians and advocates of human rights sent a message telling us not to release these people (American prisoners) and continue this process (of talks) until the eve of US presidential elections,” Shamkhani said Thursday in an address to a rally held in the central city of Yazd to mark the 37th anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution’s victory.

“However” he said “we acted upon our independent resolve and moved the process forward.”

http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...ed-iran-to-delay-prisoner-swap-shamkhani-says

Tasnim News Agency is one of those "satire" news sites, right?

Right?

 

[realibrad]

Holy fuck if this is true.

I do question why they would release this though? So many possibilities.

 

[zinfamous]

Crazy if true....but maybe taken from the Reagan campaign book c. 1979-80?

This was part of a speech at a rally celebrating the anniversary of the 1979 coup. So, my thought is that this is simply anti-American bluster and posturing as a display of Iran having the balls to ignore the requests of US politics.

Or something.

 

[JSt0rm]

of course they would do this. They already committed sedition when they went around negotiations to tell iran anything they sign with obama would be null.

 

[zinfamous]

of course they would do this. They already committed sedition when they went around negotiations to tell iran anything they sign with obama would be null.

I think the Pubs made it pretty clear to Iran that Iran really wants nothing to do with a Pub administration.

These comments may be true; but if not, I can see them as some strategy to influence the US elections towards an outcome that is more friendly for Iran.

Netahyahoo does it every election year.

 

[PokerGuy]

Interesting if true, but forgive me if I don't take the word of Ali whateverhisnameis at face value.

 

[zinfamous]

Interesting if true, but forgive me if I don't take the word of Ali whateverhisnameis at face value.

yeah, needs more sources and more outlets willing to run with the story.

 

[HomerJS]

Kinda traitorous if true don't ya think??

Also waiting for a second source.

 

[Jhhnn]

True or not, I'm sure the Iranians don't want another Repub Admin after all the bullshit the last one put them through.

 

[Phokus]

Interesting if true, but forgive me if I don't take the word of Ali whateverhisnameis at face value.

Reagan did the same thing, so it's very plausible.

 

[zinfamous]

Reagan did the same thing, so it's very plausible.

Probably so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

Probably not:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...omney-says-iran-released-hostages-1981-becau/

It seems to me that there is enough evidence to support the idea that the plot was, indeed, real: even the original investigative committee members admit as much, as do many of the principals that were/would have been involved.

I'm also inclined to believe that these deals were happening between the Carter admin and Iran and, if nothing else, Reagan's "treason" acted to delay those negotiations which, historically, are shown to be the results of the Carter administration.

I think both of these claims are very probably true.

 

[Darwin333]

I'd need to see proof but if true they should be immediately kicked out of whatever .gov position they are in and brought up on charges. Personally I am ok with treason but that's generally hard to prove so other charges should be levied as well.

 

[zinfamous]

I'd need to see proof but if true they should be immediately kicked out of whatever .gov position they are in and brought up on charges. Personally I am ok with treason but that's generally hard to prove so other charges should be levied as well.

...you mean you're cool with treason in general, or you're cool with charges of treason in this case? :hmm:

 

[Brainonska511]

Probably so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

Probably not:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...omney-says-iran-released-hostages-1981-becau/

It seems to me that there is enough evidence to support the idea that the plot was, indeed, real: even the original investigative committee members admit as much, as do many of the principals that were/would have been involved.

I'm also inclined to believe that these deals were happening between the Carter admin and Iran and, if nothing else, Reagan's "treason" acted to delay those negotiations which, historically, are shown to be the results of the Carter administration.

I think both of these claims are very probably true.

It wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to undermine US foreign policy. Ever read about how Nixon torpedoed peace in Vietnam under LBJ?

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668

 

[Indus]

I'd need to see proof but if true they should be immediately kicked out of whatever .gov position they are in and brought up on charges. Personally I am ok with treason but that's generally hard to prove so other charges should be levied as well.

Sorta like the 47 senators?

 

[Darwin333]

...you mean you're cool with treason in general, or you're cool with charges of treason in this case? :hmm:

Lol, I'm cool with the charges of treason in this case. I'd just hate to see them only get charged with treason and being able to walk away scott free because they beat the charge.

 

[JSt0rm]

without iran what war does the military industrial complex have in 10 years? We wage war every 10 years or so to feed our death machines.

 

[Genx87]

without iran what war does the military industrial complex have in 10 years? We wage war every 10 years or so to feed our death machines.

We have been at war for 15 years. I'd welcome 10 years off at this point.

 

[zinfamous]

We have been at war for 15 years. I'd welcome 10 years off at this point.

Maybe we should re-elect Jimmy, the last president to not take us to war and/or bomb someone for shits?

 

[JSt0rm]

thats because they had the right administration for an eternal war. We like non total war engagements that cost us just a few lives but trillions of dollars. Soon we wont even field real soldiers. We will have drones killing for us and going into the hot zones first. When this happens look out we will be slaughtering brown skinned people with abandon.

 

[Sonikku]

Probably so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

Probably not:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...omney-says-iran-released-hostages-1981-becau/

It seems to me that there is enough evidence to support the idea that the plot was, indeed, real: even the original investigative committee members admit as much, as do many of the principals that were/would have been involved.

I'm also inclined to believe that these deals were happening between the Carter admin and Iran and, if nothing else, Reagan's "treason" acted to delay those negotiations which, historically, are shown to be the results of the Carter administration.

I think both of these claims are very probably true.

Nixon did the same thing to Lyndon B. when he talked some of the Vietnam parties at the bargaining table into pulling out of the peace talks Johnson was conducting by promising them a better deal if they stuck it out until he had the White House. The GoP seems pretty big on undermining Dems from seeking reasonable goals resulting in catastrophic outcomes all for political gain. Hell the whole clusterfuck with Iran to start with wasn't even because of Carter. It was because of Eisenhower and the overthrowing of their democracy.

 

[JSt0rm]

it was not for political gain. It was for profit. Thats what we do.

 

[zinfamous]

Nixon did the same thing to Lyndon B. when he talked some of the Vietnam parties at the bargaining table into pulling out of the peace talks Johnson was conducting by promising them a better deal if they stuck it out until he had the White House. The GoP seems pretty big on undermining Dems from seeking reasonable goals resulting in catastrophic outcomes all for political gain. Hell the whole clusterfuck with Iran to start with wasn't even because of Carter. It was because of Eisenhower and the overthrowing of their democracy.

yeah, presidency after presidency after presidency: it really makes you wonder what kind of psycopath willingly votes for GOP candidates with this kind of history in their closet.

 

[JSt0rm]

yeah, presidency after presidency after presidency: it really makes you wonder what kind of psycopath willingly votes for GOP candidates with this kind of history in their closet.

We live inside the bubble. Its easy to believe the world is evil from in here.

 

[HomerJS]

This thread illustrates the difference in right vs left.

Remember the story of Obama spending 200 million $/day for Air Force One on a trip to India? Republicans and Fox News, Drudge ran with this bullshit even though it was from a single unconfirmed source.

I don't hear the same thing from Dems or MSNBC, et al.