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US probes Iraq net body pictures .

The leadership in these units must be severely damaged or broken. Likewise, the monitoring of data communications out to the internet from inside the theater of operation is also lacking. This is a dismal affair and will likely result in a number of people losing their careers, freedom and families as a result. At least we can hope...
 
Originally posted by: Rogue
The leadership in these units must be severely damaged or broken. Likewise, the monitoring of data communications out to the internet from inside the theater of operation is also lacking. This is a dismal affair and will likely result in a number of people losing their careers, freedom and families as a result. At least we can hope...
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This why our military gets a bad name and why all this extremist keep capturing people and beheading them as revenge.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
When the press does it, it's not a problem though. :roll:.
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The press, even as much as I may malign them, does it for a more noble purpose than attaining pornography for free I would hope. I hope......right?
 
Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: SampSon
When the press does it, it's not a problem though. :roll:.
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The press, even as much as I may malign them, does it for a more noble purpose than attaining pornography for free I would hope. I hope......right?
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Right, they do it for money. Definatly a noble cause indeed.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: SampSon
When the press does it, it's not a problem though. :roll:.
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The press, even as much as I may malign them, does it for a more noble purpose than attaining pornography for free I would hope. I hope......right?
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Right, they do it for money. Definatly a noble cause indeed.
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The president of our country does his job for money the last time I checked ?
And wait everyone does his / her job for money too. hmm...
But I have never seen anyone doing a job for porn.

Also a point you have failed to see is that when you are an American soldier stationed in Iraq you are not considred a normal person and your actions can cause much more damage than they would have if they were commited by a normal citezen.
 
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: SampSon
When the press does it, it's not a problem though. :roll:.
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The press, even as much as I may malign them, does it for a more noble purpose than attaining pornography for free I would hope. I hope......right?
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Right, they do it for money. Definatly a noble cause indeed.
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The president of our country does his job for money the last time I checked ?
And wait everyone does his / her job for money too. hmm...
But I have never seen anyone doing a job for porn.

Also a point you have failed to see is that when you are an American soldier stationed in Iraq you are not considred a normal person and your actions can cause much more damage than they would have if they were commited by a normal citezen.
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I see that point about the soldiers very clearly, don't jump to conclusions. I was just drawing a parallel. Though you may want to brush up on spelling and grammar, you don't want to give the rest of the world Americans are uneducated heathens!

The president and politicians alike are very poor choices for a counter point.
Yes, 99% of working people do their job for money. Otherwise it would most likely be considered charity.
You may have never seen a person do work for porn, but I'm sure your experience is limited. I used to hire bums off the street to clean my apartments for money, empty cans and old porn magazines.
 
"Soldiers exchanging body pics of dead iraqis for porn access !!"
That makes it sound like most soldiers over there are doing it. Give me a break. More like SOME whacked out nutjobs are doing it.
That's right up there with calling Vietnam vets baby killers.
There are always some bad apples no matter what the circumstances.
Do you think everyone in WW2 was a model citizen that didn't do some crazy/nutty/fvcked up things? Compare the media coverage of WW2 to now. For better or worse we're way more informed now.
 
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'CURSORY INVESTIGATION'

The Washington-based Muslim civil rights group Council on American-Islamic Relations, which had called for an investigation into the allegations of photos of corpses swapped for pornography, called the probe insufficient.

"It's entirely inappropriate for the military to do such a cursory investigation of something that is really casting a very negative light on our nation's military and can only serve to further damage America's image and interests throughout the Islamic world," said Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the group.

Hooper said the military must determine who was involved and whether the conduct violated U.S. military law and international laws governing conduct during wartime, including the Geneva Conventions.

Curtin said the Army was not ruling out the possibility of opening a formal criminal investigation. "Any time new information becomes available that's credible, yes, they potentially could reopen the case," he said.

The Web site separates the corpse pictures from its sexual images. According to an article in the Online Journalism Review of the Annenberg School for Communications at the University of Southern California, the site's owner, Chris Wilson, lives in Lakeland, Florida, but hosts the site out of Amsterdam. The article quotes Wilson as saying the site's images of nude female U.S. soldiers in Iraq and photos of war dead provide a "raw" account of war.

Officials said that while the Army's preliminary inquiry had determined no felony act had taken place, soldiers potentially could be punished for conduct unbecoming a soldier, which generally brings administrative sanctions.

Without confirming the authenticity of the photos or who took them, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said, "This does not represent the values of the United States military, and doesn't represent the vast majority of the actions and behavior of our men and women in uniform. It is a despicable practice. It's unacceptable. And the department is going to address it."

Curtin said the military was examining policies, procedures and legal implications of how soldiers transmit photos from the battlefield, and could consider limiting troops' use of their own personal computers or cameras in a combat zone.

"The military must be very careful in not violating an individual's First Amendment rights," Curtin said, referring to the constitutional right of free expression.

"Soldiers encounter the horrors of war, and they are able to record it," Curtin said. "You mix it with the porn site, now you muddy the waters."

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker on Wednesday sent a message about "Internet Safety" to U.S. soldiers, but focused on restrictions on images that could compromise operational security on the battlefield. Curtin said the message was unrelated to the corpse photos.
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looks like they might go into a full-scale investigation. my bet is that whatever soldier(s) decided to trade pics for pr0n access are in some serious doo-doo...
 
Honestly, it's pathetic that anyone even cares about this. On the list of Bad Things That Happen Durring War this ranks about #376. And that's only if you consider the wars of the last 60 years or so. Count all wars and it drops way further down on the list.

But hell, we have 24 hours of sensationalistic entertainment geared news and we have to fill that time somehow.

Now with all that said; Was it wrong? Yes. Should it really matter at all? Absolutely not.
 
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Honestly, it's pathetic that anyone even cares about this. On the list of Bad Things That Happen Durring War this ranks about #376. And that's only if you consider the wars of the last 60 years or so. Count all wars and it drops way further down on the list.

But hell, we have 24 hours of sensationalistic entertainment geared news and we have to fill that time somehow.

Now with all that said; Was it wrong? Yes. Should it really matter at all? Absolutely not.
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A typical uninformed citezen, ya lets go ahead and ignore all the incidents that go on and lets wait untill these problems intensify and casue a problem to happen at our homeland, then start stupid talkshows and start questioning " Why did this happen ?!!!"
 
Originally posted by: LandRover
"Soldiers exchanging body pics of dead iraqis for porn access !!"
That makes it sound like most soldiers over there are doing it. Give me a break. More like SOME whacked out nutjobs are doing it.
That's right up there with calling Vietnam vets baby killers.
There are always some bad apples no matter what the circumstances.
Do you think everyone in WW2 was a model citizen that didn't do some crazy/nutty/fvcked up things? Compare the media coverage of WW2 to now. For better or worse we're way more informed now.
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QFMFT
 
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Honestly, it's pathetic that anyone even cares about this. On the list of Bad Things That Happen Durring War this ranks about #376. And that's only if you consider the wars of the last 60 years or so. Count all wars and it drops way further down on the list.

But hell, we have 24 hours of sensationalistic entertainment geared news and we have to fill that time somehow.

Now with all that said; Was it wrong? Yes. Should it really matter at all? Absolutely not.
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A typical uninformed citezen, ya lets go ahead and ignore all the incidents that go on and lets wait untill these problems intensify and casue a problem to happen at our homeland, then start stupid talkshows and start questioning " Why did this happen ?!!!"
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Let's have some examples. Please, tell he how the world is going to end. I'm very interested to hear this.
 
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