US kills up to 200 Russian contract soldiers repelling attack in Syria

[pmv]

I think we are preventing Assad and the Russians from killing what's left of his people.

Also fighting ISIS.

But we're fine with the Saudis killing Yemeni people, right? Just so I can get this straight.

And if we are 'fighting ISIS' why are we allied with ISIS's pal, Erdogan? And if the Russians are the enemy, why is our NATO ally Turkey buying air defense systems from them?

Have they gotten to the bottom of the question of Saudi government involvement in 911 yet?

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm wondering what kind of propellant she's employing because she's not flapping her arms.

I'm guessing that she's using clean burning burritos so her exhaust naturally dissipates without damaging the ozone layer but probably leaves her undershorts scorched.

 

[kage69]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/world/europe/russia-syria-dead.html

And some individual Russians have begun speaking out. Aleksandr Ionov, a Russian businessman working in Syria offering security and other services, said he estimated after conversations with associates in several private military organizations that more than 200 Russians might have been killed.

Mr. Ionov said not all those killed were Russian: Some of the paid fighters came from other countries that were once part of the Soviet Union. “More than 200 is the current estimate, we cannot know the exact number yet, but most of them were Russian,” he said in a telephone interview.

Might want to make your own tea from now own Aleksandr. You're not supposed to 'dishonor the motherland' with info about dead Russians. See Slavonic Corps.

 

[alcoholbob]

You realize that we declared a war "on terror" so that we could forever and ever be at war, right? Brilliant idea, that.

So military contractors could feed from the taxpayer trough for eternity.

Remember the FOIA request that resulted in the DIA report from 2012 talking about West/Gulf States supporting the rise of a "Salafist principality" as the primary opposition of Assad?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

What is ISIS, but a Salafist principality? Support the Salafists to create regime change in Syria, then support the Kurds the fight the Salafists, etc, etc. It's an endless, engineered shitshow to continue our involvement in the middle east. It's an open secret, lest you forget General Wesley Clark openly admitting during his presidential run that our government was planning to topple 7 countries in the middle east.

 

[bshole]

So military contractors could feed from the taxpayer trough for eternity.

Remember the FOIA request that resulted in the DIA report from 2012 talking about West/Gulf States supporting the rise of a "Salafist principality" as the primary opposition of Assad?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

What is ISIS, but a Salafist principality? Support the Salafists to create regime change in Syria, then support the Kurds the fight the Salafists, etc, etc. It's an endless, engineered shitshow to continue our involvement in the middle east. It's an open secret, lest you forget General Wesley Clark openly admitting during his presidential run that our government was planning to topple 7 countries in the middle east.

Thanks for that. I was beginning to think I was all alone here.

 

[cytg111]

Where else should Putin attack US soldiers? Not i the US and certainly not in Russia. World needs these little playgrounds to dance like this : https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-16/russia-attacked-u-s-troops-in-syria

 

[kage69]

So it sounds like this attack was a test of American responses and commitment to the area. They committed a lot of mistakes though, it wasn't just poor coordination and being dumb enough to attack at night. They prepped for this attack for weeks, under watch from our guys. B-52s were used as they had been waiting on station in advance of the attack, and oh by the way the bridge they used to cross the Euphrates suddenly got washed away by an "accidental" full discharge from the dam upstream. Those sorry bastards got marooned on the wrong side of the river, in positions that were pre targeted. That's a shitty situation to be in when the Apaches and AC-130s show up.

Prigozhin employees still working hard though. 'The Americans turned a few acres into meat blender, 3 Russian PMCs developed hang nails...' Poor Russians. They just want people to go back to the good ol days of being shot for disagreeable graffiti, is that so wrong? *pout*

 

[senseamp]

America: There are some dudes coming at us.
Russia: There are no Russians there.
...
America: There aren't now.

 

[bshole]

Obamas Syrian ambassador:

Robert Ford, the last US ambassador to Syria, argued last year that the United States has no strategic interest in keeping troops in Syria. There was nothing to gain and much blood and treasure to lose.

I find it odd to see so many liberals turning on Obama and siding with Trump in his attempt to boost this into hot war with Russia/Iran/Turkey.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/opin...naction-in-syria-robertson-opinion/index.html

 

[piasabird]

In North Korea, They killed about 200 soldiers at their own weapons test facility. That is not too unbelievable.

The Russians can not even keep an aircraft carrier running. They have little or no money to do anything. The reason they would do this is to test the effectiveness of American troops. What they found out is we responded with a coordinated attack wiping everyone out. At least our military is able to function in a responsible and professional manner.

 

[Mai72]

Its time for war with Russia?

Lets do this.

 

[urvile]

In North Korea, They killed about 200 soldiers at their own weapons test facility. That is not too unbelievable.

The Russians can not even keep an aircraft carrier running. They have little or no money to do anything. The reason they would do this is to test the effectiveness of American troops. What they found out is we responded with a coordinated attack wiping everyone out. At least our military is able to function in a responsible and professional manner.

Or it's all unsubstantiated bullshit. The beauty of the internet I suppose?

The russians certainly have the money and expertise to influence the US presidential election. The beauty of the internet I suppose?

 

[Jaskalas]

Obamas Syrian ambassador:

I find it odd to see so many liberals turning on Obama and siding with Trump in his attempt to boost this into hot war with Russia/Iran/Turkey.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/opin...naction-in-syria-robertson-opinion/index.html

Turning on Obama? He's the one that let Hillary run a foreign policy that armed Syria's rebels in the first place.
Syria was the next stop after Libya, or don't you remember their intent to sweep the Middle East with the Arab Spring?

• Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels
  
• Turkish daily exposes transfer of weapons to ISIS
  
• C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition

One does not arm rebels for Regime Change in Syria without getting their hands dirty. But you'd like to pretend that didn't happen.

 

[cytg111]

Its time for war with Russia?

Lets do this.

Hot damn no. Get Putin out of Power. Kim Jong Un etc. Spare the people. Hang the psychopaths.

 

[kage69]

Obamas Syrian ambassador:


I find it odd to see so many liberals turning on Obama and siding with Trump in his attempt to boost this into hot war with Russia/Iran/Turkey.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/opin...naction-in-syria-robertson-opinion/index.html

What the hell are you talking about? Our guys are entitled to defend themselves, and Obama isn't in office anymore. Get a grip, or at least provide some citations for your bizarre claims.

 

[bshole]

What the hell are you talking about? Our guys are entitled to defend themselves, and Obama isn't in office anymore. Get a grip, or at least provide some citations for your bizarre claims.

I included a quote from Obamas ambassador to Syria in which he said America should leave. I assumed that he represented Obama's POV.

But you are correct, Obama was on the wrong side and did indeed support our shitty Syrian policy. Amazing that Trump and Obama can agree on Middle East policy... or perhaps entirely predictable.

Obama also addressed President-elect Donald Trump’s vow at a rally in Pennsylvania on Thursday to “get the Gulf states to give us lots of money” to help “build safe zones in Syria”. He said any safe zones would need to be maintained by on-the-ground forces unless Trump can secure the cooperation of the Assad regime and its allies.

In 2013, nearly 70% of Americans opposed meddling in Syria.

Sixty-eight percent of Americans say the United States should not use military action in Syria to attempt to end the civil war there if diplomatic and economic efforts fail, while 24% would favor U.S. military involvement.

Meanwhile 90% of Turkey supports attacking the Kurds in Syria. What will Turkey think of America if we start killing Turkish soldiers? Can you imagine what would happen if America started supporting the Kurds inside Turkey? It could happen. America could be on the brink of igniting a civil war in Turkey which would be orders of magnitude more catastrophic than the disasters in Syria and Libya that we are already directly responsible for.

Following Turkey’s incursion into Syria, the once unthinkable prospect of a direct clash between Turkish and American soldiers has become alarmingly real. Turkey’s current fight, against U.S.-backed Kurdish troops in the northwestern Syria territory of Afrin, is destabilizing enough. But the real risk will come if Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan follows through on his repeated promises to press further east toward the Kurdish-controlled and U.S.-patrolled city of Manbij. The only way to prevent a conflict is for U.S. policymakers to adopt a clear and tough-minded approach to Turkey now, before things get worse.

https://www.politico.eu/article/tur...-say-so-erdogan-rex-tillerson-kurdish-manbij/
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/turkey-poll/4257664.html
http://news.gallup.com/poll/162854/americans-oppose-military-involvement-syria.aspx
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-s-approach-toward-war-in-syria-idUSKBN1452KX

 

[senseamp]

Interesting split of opinion in Russia between Putin supporters pretending these mercenaries never existed and opponents happy they are dead and won't be coming back to pillage their own country. They have been basically written off.

 

[cytg111]

Interesting split of opinion in Russia between Putin supporters pretending these mercenaries never existed and opponents happy they are dead and won't be coming back to pillage their own country. They have been basically written off.

Got a news piece on that?

 

[JSt0rm]

the only thing less important then a russian mercenary is an american school child.

 

[alcoholbob]

Its time for war with Russia?

Lets do this.

By "let's", I assume you are enlisting in the military?

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

In case you haven’t noticed, we’re already at war with Russia.

America just took a digital Pearl Harbor to the face and if Dotus isn’t going to enforce sanctions or defend us, we’re gonna need to neutralize some Russian forces.

And by neutralize I mean AC-130 Gunships, Apache helicopters, F-22s, and predator drones.

But don’t kill them all; leave some alive to tell the tale of what they saw when they tried to tango with the U.S. on the battlefield.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Its time for war with Russia?

Lets do this.

It helps if you read this with Stewie's voice in your head.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Those 200 “mercenaries” probably have families back home...wives, girlfriends, kids, parents. I hope they don't do anything stupid like talk to the Russian media or start asking questions...

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/24/russians-us-strikes-syria/

"The Russian government has downplayed the recent strikes on Russian mercenaries in Syria, however, recordings from fighters on the ground reveal just how hard U.S. forces hit them.

“One squadron fucking lost 200 people … right away, another one lost 10 people … and I don’t know about the third squadron but it got torn up pretty badly, too … So three squadrons took a beating,” a man believed to be a Russian contract soldier said in the first of three audio recordings obtained from a source close to the Kremlin by Polygraph.info, a fact-checking website affiliated with Voice of America.

“They beat our asses like we were little pieces of shit,” the man said, Newsweek introduced.
A U.S.-led strike following a raid on a Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) base where U.S. troops were stationed is believed to have killed hundreds of Russian military contractors fighting alongside pro-Syrian irregular forces. The U.S. forces hammered the attackers with heavy artillery and air strikes. (RELATED: The US Military Is Now Fighting Russian Mercenaries In Syria)


The recordings reveal that the mercenaries, outgunned and lacking essential armor support, never stood a chance.

“They were all shelling the holy fuck out of it and our guys didn’t have anything besides the assault rifles … nothing at all, I’m not even talking about shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that… they tore us to pieces, put us through hell,” the man in the recording revealed, calling the incident a “total fuckup, another humiliation.”

“We got our fucking asses beat rough. The Yankees made their point,” he said. “What were they hoping for, that the Yankees are just going to fuck off? … It’s bullshit. Some people can’t even be fucking ID’ed.”




Didn't some of you idiots claim the the Commander in Chief wasn't doing anything about Russia? Even in this thread? You are idiots and tools.

 

[cytg111]

.. Didn't some of you idiots claim the the Commander in Chief wasn't doing anything about Russia? Even in this thread? You are idiots and tools.

- The points made in this thread doesnt change cause of first hand accounts from the ground.
Why would you think this event is "Trump being hard on Russia"? The position was attacked and US forces defended.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Lol if anyone thinks Trump had anything to do with this. He probably first found out about it when Putin called to complain.

Mattis and McMaster were like, “whoops! Looks like we got our wires crossed. Mistakes were made, mostly by the Russians.”