US Judge overturns N. Dakota’s fetal heartbeat abortion ban.

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You mean like when liberals lead a lynch hunt of the Mozilla CEO?

Yeah, that was cool. The mob broke into the building, tore it apart while looking for him and when they found him, dragged him out in the street and hung him from the nearest lamppost.

That was sooo frickin' cool watching his legs swing in the breeze while the crowd stood around singing Kumbaya. Good times I tell ya, good times.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by smackababy View Post You know what, if you can give me ONE logical reason that doesn't involve religion or opinion on why same-sex marriage should be illegal, I will concede my argument for it. Just one! It has to be an argument against the legal union of two consenting adults of the same sex.


Because they cannot consummate the union

same sex couples are not able to have sex with one another?

Apparently you don't know what that word means.

con·sum·mate
verb
verb: consummate; 3rd person present: consummates; past tense: consummated; past participle: consummated; gerund or present participle: consummating
ˈkänsəˌmāt/
1.
make (a marriage or relationship) complete by having sexual intercourse.




btw,

Do you believe that a heterosexual couple who can not have or who do not wish to have children should be allowed to legally marry?
 
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Yeah, that was cool. The mob broke into the building, tore it apart while looking for him and when they found him, dragged him out in the street and hung him from the nearest lamppost.

That was sooo frickin' cool watching his legs swing in the breeze while the crowd stood around singing Kumbaya. Good times I tell ya, good times.

Didn't they beat him like a pinata until all the yummy java-scriptlets fell from his torso too?
 

Texashiker

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Women getting abortions are also abiding by the law.

Being legal does not make something right.

The social injustice of child support compared to legalized abortion is a miss-carriage (no pun intended) of justice.

Equal rights also carries an equal burden of responsibility. In the case of abortion women have greater rights than men.

Both people had sex, but yet only one gets to make the decision as to whether or not the child will be carried to term. That is a disproportionate right that has been granted to women.
 
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smackababy

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Being legal does not make something right.

The social injustice of child support compared to legalized abortion is a miss-carriage (no pun intended) of justice.

Equal rights also carries an equal burden of responsibility. In the case of abortion women have greater rights than men.

Both people had sex, but yet only one gets to make the decision as to whether or not the child will be carried to term. That is a disproportionate right that has been granted to women.

Except, it has already been decided that prior to the point of viability, everything is considered the women's body. Therefore, the proportionate right of a women to determine to remove parts of her body lies only within her own decision.

There is no social injustice of child support. Don't want to pay for the upbringing of your children, don't have them.

Also, you cannot conscientiously type "no pun intended" and still have it not be intended. If you wrote it and then thought "that was a pun!", and continued to leave it written, it was intended.
 
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Being legal does not make something right.

The social injustice of child support compared to legalized abortion is a miss-carriage (no pun intended) of justice.

Equal rights also carries an equal burden of responsibility. In the case of abortion women have greater rights than men.

Both people had sex, but yet only one gets to make the decision as to whether or not the child will be carried to term. That is a disproportionate right that has been granted to women.

You are correct Sir, women get more say over their bodies, its not a shared duty. Its not fair but that's where we are. Do I support abortion, no. I also believe a fetus will become a person. I also support the right for women to choose and I know unwanted babies are not good for anyone.
 

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Being legal does not make something right.

The social injustice of child support compared to legalized abortion is a miss-carriage (no pun intended) of justice.

Equal rights also carries an equal burden of responsibility. In the case of abortion women have greater rights than men.

Both people had sex, but yet only one gets to make the decision as to whether or not the child will be carried to term. That is a disproportionate right that has been granted to women.

Only one of those people has the chance to die from childbirth. Hint: It isn't the sperm donor.
 
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Equal rights also carries an equal burden of responsibility. In the case of abortion women have greater rights than men.

Both people had sex, but yet only one gets to make the decision as to whether or not the child will be carried to term. That is a disproportionate right that has been granted to women.

In the case of vasectomies, men have greater rights than women. It is demonstrably unfair, though perhaps not unjust, as women aren't born with testicles (or the accompanying vas deferens). Similarly, very few men are born with a uterus, so they naturally have fewer rights when it comes to determining what is to be done with them. I realize I said people should stop responding to you, but it's one thing if you have a difference of opinion about where life begins and something completely different when you argue the absurd perspective that men should have as much say in abortions as women. The rights are based on whose body they impact, not whose DNA is involved.
 

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Hey look. Another complete bullshit FUD blog provided by you. Weren't you warned about this shit already?

http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/2009/07/15/description-misrepresented-as/


It's fine, you can live in denial and enjoy paying the cost of your own slavery. If you so trust a communist-loving national geographic writer then so be it, if you believe so she will lead you success.

I mean, I would have to be an idiot to take a mainstream national geographic writer who doesn't even focus on these topics, seriously. A compartmentalized comment, she seen something popular, and did her best to fullfill her beliefs.

It's about connecting the dots, and that was my 2 censt posting that link as I don't have time to talk all day here. It was just one of of many examples.
 
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It's fine, you can live in denial and enjoy paying the cost of your own slavery. If you so trust a communist-loving national geographic writer then so be it, if you believe so she will lead you success.

I mean, I would have to be an idiot to take a mainstream national geographic writer who doesn't even focus on these topics, seriously. A compartmentalized comment, she seen something popular, and did her best to fullfill her beliefs.

It's about connecting the dots, and that was my 2 censt posting that link as I don't have time to talk all day here. It was just one of of many examples.

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While I am pro abortion in a lot of situations, you claiming a fetus isn't life is only makes you a liar to yourself. If the Mars Rover found a fetus it would be splashed all over the news that we found LIFE on Mars and you would agree with it then, so don't disagree with it when it happened to cross your political lines.

I made no such clain.
 
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If you're all for personal freedoms and rights than you shouldn't be telling other people how to run their lives. Plain and simple. Otherwise, you're a raging hypocrite.
 

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If you're all for personal freedoms and rights than you shouldn't be telling other people how to run their lives. Plain and simple. Otherwise, you're a raging hypocrite.

If a liberal court overturns a conservative law, that's "judicial activism" and "legislating from the bench."

If a conservative court overturns a liberal law that's "protecting our cherished liberties."
 

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That is force. If people can be forced to participate in an act to which they have a moral objection (forcing black caterers, or white ones for that matter, to cater a KKK event), then that is force.

Nope, that's being asked to follow the laws that regulate every other public accommodation business.

Don't want to follow those laws? Then either close up shop or start a private members only business, then discriminate to your little hearts (and brains') desire.
 
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