US has nukes in Turkey?!

[JEDI]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/us-nuclear-weapons-turkey-attempted-coup/index.html

The weapons are Cold War-era B-61 "gravity" bombs.

"It's an open secret" the bombs are at Incirlik, Joshua Walker of the German Marshall Fund, who specializes on US-Turkey relations, told CNN.

US also has nukes in Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.


wow.. I thought the US only had nukes in US and on nuke subs.
so how easy is it to over run a nuke base abroad?

 

[brycejones]

Yes and it is difficult. These are not installations with a platoon.

 

[jman19]

The US has had nukes in Europe for decades. The current stockpile is well below what it used to be. The question is if there is a real strategic need to even have them there anymore.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Wow, the resident retard learned something new today!

 

[woolfe9998]

LOL yes we have nukes in foreign countries. The Cuban Missile Crisis ended by way of a secret agreement whereby Russia would pull out of Cuba and in exchange we were to dismantle our IRBM's in Turkey. I'm pretty sure we'd have to have nukes to go with those missiles or Russia wouldn't have cared much.

 

[mxnerd]

Soon Trump will let Korea & Japan to have nukes, they are much responsible countries than Turkey.

 

[Blue_Max]

It's probably safer to hunker and lock them down where they are than try to get them out of the unstable regions they're in!

Some violent nutjobs would give almost anything to get their hands on some...

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Apparently the US personnel can (EDIT: BUT what I DON'T know. Is to what extent an out of control TURKEY can limit US access to the Nuke Storage area(s), hopefully the US has that contingency under control.) render the weapons largely unusable by activating the (non-nuclear-explosive) self destruct like mechanism, if necessary.

Which I imagine they would do, if the applicable parts of the base, become over-run with problematic people/soldiers, or they get orders from Washington and/or have to leave the base.

B61 administrative procedures performed by ground-based personnel are executed via an access panel located on the side of the bomb, which opens to reveal 9 dials, 2 sockets and a T-handle which manually triggers the "command disable" function. One of the sockets is a MC4142 "strike enable" plug which must be inserted in order to complete critical circuits in the safety/arming and firing mechanisms. The other socket is the PAL connector located in the top right hand corner of the arming panel, which has 23 pins marked with alphabetic letter codes.
The B61 also features a "command disable" mechanism, which functions as follows: after entering the correct 3-digit numeric code it is then possible to turn a dial to "DI" and pull back a T-shaped handle which comes away in the user's hand. This action releases a spring-loaded firing pin which fires the percussion cap on an MC4246A thermal battery, powering it up. Electrical power from the thermal battery is sufficient to "fry" the internal circuitry of the bomb, destroying critical mechanisms without causing detonation. This makes the bomb incapable of being used. Any B61 which has had the command disable facility used must be returned to Pantex for repair.[20]

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[Jaskalas]

Yes, members of NATO have a nuclear umbrella.
And Turkey might as well be the center of the world for its strategic position between Europe, Asia, and the Middle East.

 

[pcgeek11]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/us-nuclear-weapons-turkey-attempted-coup/index.html

The weapons are Cold War-era B-61 "gravity" bombs.

"It's an open secret" the bombs are at Incirlik, Joshua Walker of the German Marshall Fund, who specializes on US-Turkey relations, told CNN.

US also has nukes in Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.


wow.. I thought the US only had nukes in US and on nuke subs.
so how easy is it to over run a nuke base abroad?

We used to have them all over. Scotland, Spain, Guam for the Submarine Nuclear Weapons.

 

[sportage]

US nukes on US bases.
That was the fear with the coup in Turkey.
An attack on those bases and the full retaliation from the US military.
This could have went very bad very fast.
Guess one could say, we dodged that bullet, this time.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Soon Trump will let Korea & Japan to have nukes, they are much responsible countries than Turkey.

Don't forget Saudi Arabia too

**I thought there was some unwritten agreement that nukes are kept out of Cuba and we'll keep nukes out of Turkey

 

[K1052]

Don't forget Saudi Arabia too

**I thought there was some unwritten agreement that nukes are kept out of Cuba and we'll keep nukes out of Turkey

The Russians were super worried about the US IRBMs in Turkey which would have given limited warning and reaction time. It is one of several things that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis and the subsequent deal to deactivate and remove them (the Jupiter missiles were in reality POSs anyway and obsolete) in exchange for removing their missiles from Cuba and a US promise not to invade.

Since gravity bombs won't be used in a first strike they are not similarly concerning.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The Russians were super worried about the US IRBMs in Turkey which would have given limited warning and reaction time. It is one of several things that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis and the subsequent deal to deactivate and remove them (the Jupiter missiles were in reality POSs anyway and obsolete) in exchange for removing their missiles from Cuba and a US promise not to invade.

Since gravity bombs won't be used in a first strike they are not similarly concerning.

That's it thank you

 

[flexy]

Yes, and in related "news", the advantage of the US's presence in Europe is really more on YOUR side and not so much on ours.

It's YOU who has the advantage of having closer hubs, military hospitals, air bases (Rammstein in Germany etc.)....for operations in the M.E...and of course the closeness to the East....while what we get in return is that we're priority targets in a potential conflict BECAUSE of *your* bases.

Think about this next time when some retard screams the US should withdraw from Europe, making it sound as if this presence is merely a benefit for us "for protection" at the cost of the US tax payer. It's a strategic benefit for NATO/the US, above everything, IMHO.

 

[dank69]

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Some violent nutjobs would give almost anything to get their hands on some...

I know this is true because I see it in movies all the time.