US Forces Take Hostages in Iranian Diplomatic Mission: Bush Is Now Officially Ayatollah Khomeini #2

fornax

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Abandoned and despised by all, Bush apparently has decided to take a page out of Ayatollah Khomeini's handbook. Last night US forces took hostages in the Iranian diplomatic mission in Irbil. Someone should have told him that he has neither the intellect nor the charisma, but plenty of the religious craziness and bullying psyche.

Should we expect a helicopter rescue mission by Ahmadinejad?

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Aimster

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U.S is trying to piss Iran off so they can do something to give the U.S a reason to go to war with them.
 

Arkaign

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Yes, because Persians and Arabs just looooooove each other.

Bush is trying hard to be the most destructive leader of the 21st century. I do think he's actively trying everything within his power to ignite the widest conflict he can. War is money for the right people.
 

Aimster

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The longer Iraq is unstable the better it is for all the oil rich nations in the M.E.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it might even be good for the U.S.

Less oil in the market = more money for oil companies.

Iraq is capable of pushing out 6mbpd. o u c h.
 

conjur

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I thought Iraq was a sovereign nation?

WTF is the US taking Iranian hostages in Iraq?



Bush and the neocons WANT war with Iran. They CRAVE it!


SICK f*ckers.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Yes, because Persians and Arabs just looooooove each other.

Bush is trying hard to be the most destructive leader of the 21st century. I do think he's actively trying everything within his power to ignite the widest conflict he can. War is money for the right people.

Or maybe hes trying to prevent it. But that doesnt play into the hate bush agenda does it.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Yes, because Persians and Arabs just looooooove each other.

Bush is trying hard to be the most destructive leader of the 21st century. I do think he's actively trying everything within his power to ignite the widest conflict he can. War is money for the right people.

Or maybe hes trying to prevent it. But that doesnt play into the hate bush agenda does it.

Lol, because invading Iraq has been such a glorious idea :) And there's nothing wrong with hating dangerous idiots. It's not a partisan thing, I hate LBJ even more than Bush.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Yes, because Persians and Arabs just looooooove each other.

Bush is trying hard to be the most destructive leader of the 21st century. I do think he's actively trying everything within his power to ignite the widest conflict he can. War is money for the right people.

Or maybe hes trying to prevent it. But that doesnt play into the hate bush agenda does it.

Lol, because invading Iraq has been such a glorious idea :) And there's nothing wrong with hating dangerous idiots. It's not a partisan thing, I hate LBJ even more than Bush.

Invading Iraq is a great idea.....IF you want to position yourself to attack Iran.

Look at it like this. People constantly point out the terrorists talked for months about a large scale attack prior to 9/11. Then, when it happened everyone complained about how the Administration did nothing to stop it.

Then we have this. Click Someone stated they wanted to launch a terrorist attack, the Administration (Or courts as the case maay be) does something and people complain because something was done.

Now, you have Iran. Iran has openly, publicly and repeatedly stated they want the downfall of Isreal. They have openly, publicly and repeatedly stated they want Isreal wiped off the face of the Earth.
They are pursueing a nuclear program.

First people bitch because when terrorists stated they would attack the administration did nothing to stop it.
Then people bitch because when a terrorist states he will launch an attack the administration does something.

When the terrorists stated they were attack America, we ended up with 9/11. What do you think will happen when a well eqquiped organized country who openly, publicly and repeated states it wants to "wipe a country off the face of the Earth" gets nuclear weapons?
 

Arkaign

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Iran is a pissant tincan piece of crap paper tiger panty-waste pussy. It is of no credible threat to much of anyone. Iran is surrounded by enemies of far greater strength.

The real solution to terrorism? Cut off their money supply permanently. Make oil obsolete. Let the whole middle east rot in their own filth and mutually spilled blood. I don't care if they all die. They don't deserve our help, or our money. And they have no worthwhile exports other than oil and violence. Take away the first, and what have they got? Their economies will collapse inwards. ****** em.

The situation in Iraq or the Middle East isn't worth a single GI.
 

Lemon law

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An embassy is always a nest of spies---but its still something to be internationally respected.

But some people just are above it all---legends in their own minds---incapable of seeing their own
hypocracy---yet talking in black white terms of good and evil.---condeming others as evil while
doing exactly what they demonize others for doing.

The story of this Iraq war in a nutshell.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
The real solution to terrorism? Cut off their money supply permanently. Make oil obsolete. Let the whole middle east rot in their own filth and mutually spilled blood. I don't care if they all die. They don't deserve our help, or our money. And they have no worthwhile exports other than oil and violence. Take away the first, and what have they got? Their economies will collapse inwards. ****** em.
That truly is the longterm solution. I've said the same for a longggg time. Eliminate our need for oil through the invention of alternative fuel, and we can leave the ME alone and allow them to kill eachother off for the next 100 years. Then we can slowly sell them the alternative fuel technology we've invented making the whole world energy self-sufficient.

bonus: we make decent $ selling the alternative fuel technologies to every country in the world.

I see this as the 21st century space-race.

As for this raid against the Iranians, we'll need more facts before you can start throwing the term "hostages" around. right now, they are prisoners. Will you please give the military the benefit of the doubt for a change?

let's wait and see what these 5 Iranians are all about before we start calling Bush more names... yes, no, maybe so?

bah...
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Arkaign
The real solution to terrorism? Cut off their money supply permanently. Make oil obsolete. Let the whole middle east rot in their own filth and mutually spilled blood. I don't care if they all die. They don't deserve our help, or our money. And they have no worthwhile exports other than oil and violence. Take away the first, and what have they got? Their economies will collapse inwards. ****** em.
That truly is the longterm solution. I've said the same for a longggg time. Eliminate our need for oil through the invention of alternative fuel, and we can leave the ME alone and allow them to kill eachother off for the next 100 years. Then we can slowly sell them the alternative fuel technology we've invented making the whole world energy self-sufficient.

bonus: we make decent $ selling the alternative fuel technologies to every country in the world.

I see this as the 21st century space-race.

As for this raid against the Iranians, we'll need more facts before you can start throwing the term "hostages" around. right now, they are prisoners. Will you please give the military the benefit of the doubt for a change?

let's wait and see what these 5 Iranians are all about before we start calling Bush more names... yes, no, maybe so?

bah...

While I would agree, there simply is no alternative as cost effective as crude oil. And even if America didnt buy it, what about the rest of the world?
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
And even if America didnt buy it, what about the rest of the world?
We could sell each country (except the ME nations) the technology. This leaves the ME oil barons holding a worthless commodity while the rest of the world gains energy independence.

Then (here is the important part of the plan), we blackmail the ME nations into eradicating violent fanaticism. Once they've complied, we sell them the technology for alternative fuels and the entire world moves into the 22nd century without an addiction for oil, and, more importantly, without a high number of violent fanatics wanting to destroy everyone and everything.

I'm sure that mankind will find something new to fight over, but at least it wont be oil!
 

Aimster

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Palehorse74 nice bigot talk

Most of the M.E is friends and allied with the rest of the world.

Let's blackmail our allies because they are from the Middle East and Muslim

Excellent.
Your true colors are showing today.
 

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The most recent US actions with regard to Iran including today's report "that US forces have stormed an Iranian consulate" are deliberately planned provocations designed to entice Iran into reacting out of anger, and thereby providing the US with the "Tonkin Gulf" type of excuse to officially retaliate.

"Bait your enemy into anger and then chop their head off" appears to be the official modus operandi of the Cheney Administration.

Cheney and Bush "only" have 2 years left to work with, so they are probably moving things along wrt Iran so as to get as much of the ME stirred up as possible.

The latest Cheney/Bush/PNAC/Likud "Rapture" plan has as its premise the notion that Chaos in the ME is a good thing given the detrimental stagnation of "Stability" that has ruled the ME for the last 50+ years.

"Stir the pot" is the plan, and do it enough so that when the stirring is done, nothing of today's Islamic topography is left or recognizable.

Now of course, the Cheney/Bush/PNAC/Likud fellowship is betting that when the ME pot has been stirred enough, it will be rewarding to our own joint interests.

Many who may lose their lives or otherwise suffer from this horror beg to disagree on the outcome, but since they aren't in charge of the chariots of war, their choice doesn't count.

The Cheney/Bush/PNAC/Likud fellowship has chosen "Confrontation" over "Civility (they call this Appeasement)".

A number of leading indicators regarding the administration's actions and intentions towards Iran...

1. The sacking of Negroponte as Director of National Intelligence; the Bush administration considered his intelligence estimates on Iran's nuclear program to be a "betrayal."

2. The installation of a Navy admiral (Fallon) as commander of Centcom, responsible for ground wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq; Fallon's Centcom would have supervisory responsibility for any war with Iran. This was Abizaid's former position.

3. The London Sunday Times, on Jan. 7, 2007:

"The Sunday Times of London reported on Jan. 7 that two Israeli air squadrons are training for the mission [attack on Iranian nuclear facilities] and ?if things go according to plan, a pilot will first launch a conventional laser-guided bomb to blow a shaft down through the layers of hardened concrete [at Natanz]. Other pilots will then be ready to drop low-yield one kiloton nuclear weapons into the hole.?

Bush was distracting us with the bit about 20K troops. While we are arguing about that, he is preparing for war with Iran without anyone paying attention.

Surprisingly, many TV commentators said the same thing, immediately after the speech.

They saw the obvious: the 20K troops announcement was meaningless; "he knows it won't work, but he'll do it anyway."
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Specop 007
And even if America didnt buy it, what about the rest of the world?
We could sell each country (except the ME nations) the technology. This leaves the ME oil barons holding a worthless commodity while the rest of the world gains energy independence.

Then (here is the important part of the plan), we blackmail the ME nations into eradicating violent fanaticism. Once they've complied, we sell them the technology for alternative fuels and the entire world moves into the 22nd century without an addiction for oil, and, more importantly, without a high number of violent fanatics wanting to destroy everyone and everything.

I'm sure that mankind will find something new to fight over, but at least it wont be oil!

I don't often find myself aligned with PH, but I'm 100% in agreement with this.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Palehorse74 nice bigot talk

Most of the M.E is friends and allied with the rest of the world.

Let's blackmail our allies because they are from the Middle East and Muslim

Excellent.
Your true colors are showing today.
maybe they'll finally get off their asses, mobilize some troops, and start really helping us eradicate terrorism. Once they realize that their wealth and power are finite, they'll jump at the chance to secure the alternative-fuel technology.

We need to do something to get more Muslims involved in anti-terrorism. Mostly they just sit back and quietly support or condemn terrorism. They are not doing enough to fight it.
 

Jaskalas

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Iran has been engaged in acts of war against us. For anyone here to suggest we do nothing against our attackers betrays this nation. For you to use such language as hostage for those organizing and funding our killers shows a lot regarding whose side you?re on. How dare you.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
Palehorse74 nice bigot talk

Most of the M.E is friends and allied with the rest of the world.

Let's blackmail our allies because they are from the Middle East and Muslim

Excellent.
Your true colors are showing today.
maybe they'll finally get off their asses, mobilize some troops, and start really helping us eradicate terrorism. Once they realize that their wealth and power are finite, they'll jump at the chance to secure the alternative-fuel technology.

We need to do something to get more Muslims involved in anti-terrorism. Mostly they just sit back and quietly support or condemn terrorism. They are not doing enough to fight it.

You live in this world called la-la land.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
Palehorse74 nice bigot talk

Most of the M.E is friends and allied with the rest of the world.

Let's blackmail our allies because they are from the Middle East and Muslim

Excellent.
Your true colors are showing today.
maybe they'll finally get off their asses, mobilize some troops, and start really helping us eradicate terrorism. Once they realize that their wealth and power are finite, they'll jump at the chance to secure the alternative-fuel technology.

We need to do something to get more Muslims involved in anti-terrorism. Mostly they just sit back and quietly support or condemn terrorism. They are not doing enough to fight it.

You live in this world called la-la land.
Actually, no, i dont. I live in the real world; and I live in this world up to my eyeballs on the front lines in our war against violent Islamic fanaticism.
 

Aimster

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Yeah the M.E is out to get the U.S

watch out.!!!*(*#1

By the way since you obviously do not like to read the majority of the people who live in the M.E live in non-oil-producing coutries.

Your little plan if you were ever in charge of the world would result in a massive religious battle and cause global crisis. WW3.
it's the same B.S hitler pulled on the Jews. He blammed the entire population for the actions of a few.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: conjur
I thought Iraq was a sovereign nation?

WTF is the US taking Iranian hostages in Iraq?



Bush and the neocons WANT war with Iran. They CRAVE it!


SICK f*ckers.

 

palehorse

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Yeah the M.E is out to get the U.S

watch out.!!!*(*#1

By the way since you obviously do not like to read the majority of the people who live in the M.E live in non-oil-producing coutries.

Your little plan if you were ever in charge of the world would result in a massive religious battle and cause global crisis. WW3.
it's the same B.S hitler pulled on the Jews. He blammed the entire population for the actions of a few.
Ok, then refine my "plan" to include only those nations who control the oil throughout the ME and Central Asia... We will blackmail them into helping us eradicate violent fanaticism in their region(s) since they won't get off their asses and help now.

better now?