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US forces battle Iraqi police

tomywishbone

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Who didn't see this coming. We invade & occupy, then expect them to actually help us? LOL.😀

U.S. troops battle Iraqi police, gunmen By LEE KEATH, Associated Press Writer, 50 minutes ago, 7/13/07.

BAGHDAD - U.S. forces battled Iraqi police and gunmen Friday, killing six policemen, after an American raid captured a police lieutenant accused of leading an Iranian-backed militia cell, the military said.

Seven gunmen also died in the fight, a rare open street battle between American troops and policemen. Washington has demanded the government purge its police force of militants, and U.S. and Iraqi authorities have arrested officers in the past for militia links. But the Bush administration said in an assessment Thursday that progress on that front was "unsatisfactory."

The lieutenant was captured before dawn in eastern Baghdad, but the soldiers came under "heavy and accurate fire" from a nearby Iraqi police checkpoint, as well as intense fire from rooftops and a church, the military said in a statement.

As the Americans fired back, U.S. warplanes struck in front of the police position, without hitting it directly, "to prevent further escalation" of the battle, it said. There were no casualties among the U.S. troops, but seven gunmen and six of the policemen firing on the Americans were killed, the statement said.

The captured lieutenant was a "high-ranking" leader of a cell suspected of helping coordinate Iranian support for Shiite extremists in Iraq as well as carrying out roadside bombings against mortar attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces, the military said. The lieutenant is believed to be linked to the Quds Force, a branch of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, it said.

A spokesman for the Iraqi Interior Ministry, which controls the police, said he had no immediate information on the clash and refused to comment.

The U.S. military accuses Iran's Quds Force of organizing Shiite militants into so-called "special groups" and arming them with weapons and explosives ? including a particularly deadly form of roadside bombs called explosively formed penetrators. Iran denies the claims.

Infiltration by Shiite militias is pervasive in the Iraqi police, fueling a deep mistrust of the force among Iraq's Sunni Arab minority, who often accuse policemen of involvement in kidnappings and slaying of Sunnis ? or at least ignoring them.

Friday's raid came amid a nearly month-old security crackdown in Baghdad by U.S. forces targeting Shiite militias and Sunni insurgents. A day earlier, U.S. troops battled militiamen in east Baghdad's Amin district in a fight the military said killed nine insurgents and two civilians ? both Iraqi employees of the London-based Reuters news agency.

Iraqi police and hospital officials put the death toll higher, at 19, saying a woman and two children were among the dead.

The U.S. offensive in Baghdad ? and parallel ones to the north and south ? have brought a relative easing in attacks in the capital in recent weeks ? though it remains far from calm, with occasional car bombs and police still reporting 20 to 30 bodies a day found dumped in the city, apparent victims of sectarian slayings.

On Friday, a volley of at least four mortars were fired from the city's dangerous southern districts at the Green Zone, the heavily fortified district where al-Maliki's offices and the U.S. Embassy are located. The mortars hit near the home of a senior Iraqi military official, killing two Iraqi soldiers, an Iraqi army official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information to the press.

There was no immediate word from American authorities on casualties. It would be the second time in a week that mortar fire into the Green Zone ? nearly a daily occurence ? has caused deaths. A heavy barrage Tuesday night killed three people, including an American.

The U.S. crackdowns ? which began in mid-June, backed by an extra 28,000 troops sent this year ? aim to pacify Baghdad and allow the govermnent to pass key laws intended to sway Sunnis away from the insurgency to support the political process.

But an interim report issued Thursday by the Bush administration showed only spotty progress, fueling claims by critics in Congress that the Iraqi strategy is failing. President Bush said it was too early in the strategy to judge and has vowed to veto a measure passed by Thursday by the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives to withdraw U.S. troops by spring 2008

A top adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki complained that Bush supporters and opponents in Washington "will both blame Iraqis" for the shortcomings.

Sami al-Askari said the government was serious about the measures. "From now until the end of the year, draft laws related to national reconciliation will be finished," al-Askari told U.S.-funded Alhurra television late Thursday.

But the benchmarks ? including one to share control of the oil industry and its profits ? have been held up for months by wrangling between Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish members of al-Maliki's coalition.

The even tougher benchmark of amending the constitution ? which many Sunni Arabs see as paramount ? has been relegated to a parliament committee. Sunnis want to blunt the constitution's provisions on federalism, but Kurds and Shiites want only limited changes.

At the same time, al-Maliki's administration has been severely weakened by a Sunni Arab boycott of his Cabinet and parliament over separate disputes.

President Jalal Talabani said there were "positive developments on the political level," particularly in the effort to reshape the Cabinet to establish "a front of moderate forces committed to the politial process and democracy in Iraq."

He also said the military offensives being waged by U.S. troops in and around Baghdad were making progress. "A successful campaign is on to eliminate terrorists and so far large areas of Diyala and Anbar have been cleared," Talabani said Thursday evening, referring to provinces north and west of the capital.

 
You have policemen working for the other side and he has troops that are loyal to them.

That is to be expected.

You also have law enforcement officers in the US that take bribes and pass them onto underlings.

And in Russia and most every other country where there is a buck to be made illegally.
 
did you read your own article?

The captured lieutenant was a "high-ranking" leader of a cell suspected of helping coordinate Iranian support for Shiite extremists in Iraq as well as carrying out roadside bombings against mortar attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces, the military said. The lieutenant is believed to be linked to the Quds Force, a branch of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, it said.

this isn't the US targeting iraqi police personel, but targeting anyone that aids foreign insurgency.

i don't see how this shows that the iraqi police is not trying to help us. it just shows the shortfall of the background checks that the iraqi govenment is doing on members of the police.
 
That the Iraqi police are in league with various Iraqi insurgent groups---be they Shia or Sunni---has been a persistent problem for years---and no real news---and worse yet---the Iraqi people don't trust their own police because the word policeman used to mean Saddam's secret police and all the injustice that implied. The Iraqi people place far more trust in its army---but US trained Iraqi army recruits seem to join various insurgent groups only slightly slower than the speed of light.---as do US trained Iraqi police---nothing newsworthy there---but open firefights are rare

But the charge that this police officer worked for IRAN and not local Iraqi Shia elements is a serious and possibly inflammatory charge----GWB&co has been accusing Iran of materially aiding the Iraqi insurgency for years---and without any credible or provided proof---and I suspect that this is more of crying Iranian wolf again---but I am open to any provided proof to the contrary.
 
Iranian police involvement in Shia deathsquads exists at a much higher level than a lieutenant, bet on that. Remember the incident where US troops accidentally uncovered a torture facility in an Interior dept facility. Only the discovery was accidental...

And, of course, any opportunity to attempt to smear the Iranians is never overlooked... obviously, it's all their fault, and not the Bushistas' for charging into Iraq with eyes wide shut...
 
Originally posted by: amish
did you read your own article?

The captured lieutenant was a "high-ranking" leader of a cell suspected of helping coordinate Iranian support for Shiite extremists in Iraq as well as carrying out roadside bombings against mortar attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces, the military said. The lieutenant is believed to be linked to the Quds Force, a branch of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, it said.

this isn't the US targeting iraqi police personel, but targeting anyone that aids foreign insurgency.

i don't see how this shows that the iraqi police is not trying to help us. it just shows the shortfall of the background checks that the iraqi govenment is doing on members of the police.

Yeah, they're always "high ranking." The shortfall? How about the problem being not with the iraqi police but with the occupation of Iraq?
 
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