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US condoned Iraqi oil smuggling during Saddam regime
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CADsortaGUY
Lifer
There is no hypocrisy, but I do hope you now will admit the oil-for-fools scam was a huge blunder by the UN.
But anyway - I have this hunch that you are just giddy because you can now blame America... just a hunch...
CsG
There is no hypocrisy, but I do hope you now will admit the oil-for-fools scam was a huge blunder by the UN.
But anyway - I have this hunch that you are just giddy because you can now blame America... just a hunch...
CsG[/quote]
Nope. Blaming America isn't really that interesting. What's funny is for months you guys have been droning on about the shame of the scandal and it turns out we were complicit-- oops. I guess the US blundered too. THe fun is seeing how you will "weasel" out...
DealMonkey
Lifer
A blunder by the UN? Excuse me? You mean by America? I can excuse your mistake considering neither FNC or NewsMax.com have any sort of "counter propoganda" in place to deal with this obvious crisis of ideology.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Uh, no - the oil-for-fools program was a UN program. Nice try though. You can blame America all you want - but it was the UN's program that failed. Does that mean I ignore what we did? Absolutely not - but it is awful interesting to see you leftist now jumping for joy, high-fiving each other, and giving each other reach arounds over this.
But hey, whatever works.
CsG
The jumping around is over the blatant hypocrisy and weaseling, not the American involvement. Nice attack on motives though.
And is it fair to blame the UN for failures when its members are causing the failure? Why don't I knife someone's tires and then blame them for being late to work.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Nope. Blaming America isn't really that interesting. What's funny is for months you guys have been droning on about the shame of the scandal and it turns out we were complicit-- oops. I guess the US blundered too. THe fun is seeing how you will "weasel" out...[/quote]
No, just like I said in the PM info - I take all of it seriously but it's the UN's program that failed. This isn't the first info that has come out about American's involvement in this scam so I'm not sure what you think you are proving to us that have been keeping tabs on the progress of the investigations. But anyway - good to see you are on-board now since you can blame America too.
CsG
DealMonkey
Lifer
Nice of you to so quickly blame the UN over the past year for this scandal when the entire time the U.S. was complicit. I guess that shows your ideological bent pretty clearly. Don't bother spinning it Cad, you're coming through clear as a bell. Don't bother asking yourself why the U.N. program failed, and certainly don't bother holding the U.S. responsible for the failure. It's quite clear where you stand on all of this.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
No, there is not blatant hypocrisy and weaseling except for you who are now joining the condemnation of the program's handling. But I am willing to overlook your lack of respect for the investigations in the past now that you are on-board.🙂 Please do keep in mind though that this was a UN program and there are many things at play here - not just us.
Your analogy is flawed. The UN sat back and watched the slashing - and did nothing. Infact it seems it, itself was complicit in it. For you to even insinuate that the US is solely responsible for this "tire slashing" is asinine - but not surprising.
:beer: here's to hoping you'll continue to support the investigation into this program no matter who is found to involved. (again, we'll overlook the lack of support so far - better late than never)😀
CsG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
:roll: You obviously didn't read what I've posted. But hey, you can continue to ASSUME my position instead of reading what it is.
Like info - I hope you too can join us in support of the investigation of this UN oil-for-fools scandal.
CsG
DealMonkey
Lifer
Remember people! It's a UN program (subtext: the UN is STILL teh evil) ... the UN sat back ... the UN was complicit. Cad's clearly part of the "Blame America LAST" theory of spin. Whatever happened to taking responsibility?
What's this on-board thing? I've been following your silly weasel thread for a long time and pointing out the agenda the wacko right has. Investigations aren't bad, it's the silly attacks on the UN involving "weasel" and "oil-for-fools" that were silly. The right's attempt to disqualify the UN as an institution for a scandal was laughable when everyone knows scandals happen everywhere, including the US. It's even more laughable now that the US directly involved. I don't know why you don't seem to understand that the UN is a multinational organization in which the US has a huge role.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Who said I wasn't? That's right - you and info ASSUME that's my position when it clearly is not.
CsG
DealMonkey
Lifer
Frankly, I'd be happy if Cad blamed the UN and the US equally for the failure of the Iraq Oil-for-Food program. It takes a big man to own up to his country's mistakes and misteps. It's quite clear from his commentary thus far, that he's still pointing his finger at the UN and going "But, but, but..."
Hey Cad: Remember too that you can blame Clinton in part of this! After all, his administration turned a blind eye first! Bush just continued more of the same. That should be a consolation prize for ya. 😀
Hey Cad: Remember too that you can blame Clinton in part of this! After all, his administration turned a blind eye first! Bush just continued more of the same. That should be a consolation prize for ya. 😀
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
The "agenda" is to investigate the SCAM. The SCAM that no one did anything about. If the UN puts a program in place -they better make sure it doesn't get turned into a SCAM like this. Does it look like our gov't allowed some things to happen contrary to the sanctions? Sure - I never said it didn't.
If the UN wants to be this International organization that does more than debate - it damn well better keep tabs on the things they put in place. This UN oil-for-fools scam is one such example of their ineptitude.
So you aren't on-board?
CsG
DealMonkey
Lifer
See Cad, here's the problem:
See? You blame the UN THREE times! And the U.S. ... hmmm, where is it that you blame the U.S. again? I'm not seeing it! Did I miss it someplace?
DealMonkey
Lifer
Of course the UN Security Council put the Iraq oil-for-food program into place to begin with. Who are the members of the security council again? Hmmmm?