US buses fitted with eavesdropping equipment

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http://rt.com/usa/news/us-public-transport-security-817/


Cities across America are equipping their public transport systems with audio recording devices, potentially storing every word spoken by passengers onboard. Rights activists say the surveillance plan by far exceeds what is necessary for security.
*The multimillion dollar upgrade is underway in several US cities, including San Francisco, Eugene, Traverse City, Columbus, Baltimore, Hartford and Athens, reports The Daily, which obtained documents detailing the purchases.
The money partially comes from the federal government. San Francisco, for example, has approved a $5.9 million contract to install the eavesdropping systems on 357 modern buses and historic trolley cars over the next four years, with the Department Homeland Security footing the entire bill. The interception of audio communication will apparently be conducted without search warrants or court supervision, the report says.
The systems would be able to record audio and video from several locations in a bus for simultaneous playback. In Eugene transit officials explicitly demanded microphones capable of distilling clear conversation from the background noise. The recordings would generally be retained for 30 days. One of the systems produced for transport monitoring supports up to 12 high definition cameras, each with a dedicated microphone.

The system may potentially have additional capabilities added like timing the recording with GPS data from an onboard navigator, using facial recognition technology to identify people recorded or connecting wirelessly to a central post for real-time monitoring.
“This technology is sadly indicative of a trend in increased surveillance by commercial and law enforcement entities, under the guise of improved safety,” Ashkan Soltani, an independent security consultant whom the online newspaper asked to review specifications of equipment marketed for transit agencies, told The Daily.

Man alive I just give up.....I think I will have move to another country to feel free again.
 
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lxskllr

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All the data will be going into a governmental database to be used against you later. Big brother will know where you are every second of the day.

Btw, you should try to find more varied sources than rt.com. They have some decent news, but it has to be filtered, and checked for accuracy. They like to make the USA look like assholes. Not that that's any great feat, but realize they're spinning things to look as bad as possible, and the truth may or may not be fully present.
 

jagec

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Uh, there are an awful lot of places with two-party consent laws in that list...
 

Doppel

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Uh, there are an awful lot of places with two-party consent laws in that list...
So they put a sign on the bus tell you if you don't like it enjoy your walk. Proles and/or those without real options will essentially be forced to agree to it.
All the data will be going into a governmental database to be used against you later. Big brother will know where you are every second of the day.
Eventually, absolutely this is true.
 

olds

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pontifex

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All the data will be going into a governmental database to be used against you later. Big brother will know where you are every second of the day.

Btw, you should try to find more varied sources than rt.com. They have some decent news, but it has to be filtered, and checked for accuracy. They like to make the USA look like assholes. Not that that's any great feat, but realize they're spinning things to look as bad as possible, and the truth may or may not be fully present.

that person of interest show doesn't seem so far fetched now...haha
 

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So they put a sign on the bus tell you if you don't like it enjoy your walk. Proles and/or those without real options will essentially be forced to agree to it.Eventually, absolutely this is true.

What everybody wants to forget is that Big Brother is underfunded, understaffed & lazy, to boot. Nobody cares about transit vehicle surveillance until there's been some sort of incident or complaint, at which point Security tries to ascertain what really happened, but only if it happened recently. Electronic storage is limited by cost, so there's only a few days of the past available before being over written.

It's not like casinos, who have plenty of money & personnel to peer intently at dozens of monitors, archive incidents & suspicious activity.

The likelihood of information sharing among casinos is also very high...

The biggest threat to privacy isn't from govt, at all, but rather from private enterprise--

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmir...teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

Your credit card company knows a helluva lot more than that... as does your internet provider.
 

IGBT

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old news although good to give the paranoid schizophrenia liberals something else to rant and rave about and wonder what they may have said that's now part of evidence and awaiting to be used at any time.
 

Orignal Earl

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old news although good to give the paranoid schizophrenia liberals something else to rant and rave about and wonder what they may have said that's now part of evidence and awaiting to be used at any time.

How are you going to plan your revolution if the gov is into all your buisness
 

tweaker2

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Don't know if there's equivalency here, but the school buses one of my kids rides on every school day has audio/vid, radio comm and gps installed to protect the rights and safety of all onboard, especially where malfeasance by the driver, or misbehavior by the students is involved.

Personally, I like it as the audio/vid for the most part clearly assigns culpability in contested issues, especially in the area of students fighting/bullying onboard.
 
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Balt

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They have cameras on the buses here. I don't really care. It helped them identify two perps who shot at a bus (immediately after getting off of it) back in the summer.

Audio recording seems like a waste and unnecessary intrusion, though.
 

drebo

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This isn't new. Most city busses are contracted out to transportation companies. They get huge insurance breaks for putting these cameras in.

The way they typically work is that they are constantly recording, but they only save data when an event is triggered (by a gyro in the camera or by a button). When that happens, they save 30 seconds before and 30 seconds after the event, and then upload to a server owned by the company that operates the bus.

I know. I deploy these systems.