US awards Dubai firm $2.2 bln military contract

dahunan

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Just a drop in the bucket.. I wonder who all owns this DUBAI company... that will get away with less taxes paid to the citizens of the USA on the tax money stolen from them to pay for the war


US awards Dubai firm $2.2 bln military contract
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1611616720100416?type=marketsNews

ATLANTA | Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:03pm EDT

ATLANTA April 16 (Reuters) - The U.S. government awarded Dubai-based ANHAM FZCO, Llc a $2.2 billion contract to provide food and support services to the U.S. military in Kuwait, Iraq and Jordan, the company said on Friday.
ANHAM, an investment holding and services company, is a leading contractor in the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia and Europe including Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia and Libya.
Based in Dubai, it contracts with local companies to structure ventures in emerging markets and has backing from Saudi Arabia, Jordan and a Virginia company.
The announcement follows a decision announced this week by the U.S. Defense Logistics Agency to replace Kuwait's Agility (AGLT.KW) as the main supplier to the U.S. military in the Gulf.
That decision followed a new indictment Monday accusing Agility of fraud in $8.5 billion worth of contracts first signed in 2003 to supply the U.S. Army in the Gulf.
The DLA has suspended the firm, formerly Public Warehousing Co. K.S.C., from bidding on new contracts and Agility is in talks with the U.S. Department of Justice to settle the case.
"It is with great gratitude and a compelling sense of duty that all at ANHAM welcome the award to expand our support for those serving in the Middle East," the company said.
"We have a long track record of meeting and exceeding the contract requirements and expectations of our clients, the United States Government, and all stakeholders," it said in a statement.
 

chucky2

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Well, if they have a long track record, then we should know all about them right?
 

dahunan

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Well, if they have a long track record, then we should know all about them right?


we probably should have known all about the group I bolded in the quote... that is under investigation for stealing 8.5 billion?

Do we really no longer care how much money gets stolen from us by the military and pork in the budgets

Also.. why can't an american company provide these services.. why give 2.2 billion to anyone other than ourselves.. it is after all .. US taxpayers money being given to them
 

Schadenfroh

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Also.. why can't an american company provide these services

Sounds like Halliburton / KBR (American executives and headquartered in Houston, TX) could handle it just fine.

But, was it not you that said:
us vs them will always win and make the whole of the world a better place etc.
Think of this as the US Military reaching out to Muslim nations and corporations, kinda like what NASA is going to do under the Obama administration.
 

Acanthus

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Were they the lowest bidder?

If so, by how much?

It looks like they are at least partially backed by Americans (Virginia)...

If they don't have a history of problems, i'm not seeing the rage.
 

CLite

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So

1) The U.S. military had $8.5B dollars in contracts with Kuwait Agility to provide local food and support services.
2) The U.S. military determines Agility is defrauding them for an as of yet unreported sum of money.
3) The U.S. military wisely chooses to change suppliers to a new firm which has the ability to provide local food and support services to the Kuwait, Iraq, and Jordan areas.

First of all is there even an U.S. company that can provide these services as efficiently as one based around Kuwait/Iraq/Jordan. Secondly how is it outrageous that the U.S. military switches one of its local food and support service vendors after getting defrauded by its current contractor?

Is your tinfoil hat syndrome so strong that you believe the U.S. military would snub U.S. providers of local food and support services in the Kuwait, Iraq, and Jordan areas if they could compete with the costs of a more local company?
 

cubby1223

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Just a drop in the bucket.. I wonder who all owns this DUBAI company... that will get away with less taxes paid to the citizens of the USA on the tax money stolen from them to pay for the war

*sigh*

You do realize the pointlessness in the government paying someone to do a job, while demanding taxes in return, right? Is that your only rage, that they're not paying taxes on the money they received? If we taxed them in such a way that would make you feel all warm & cuddly inside, that just means we would have to give them more money to complete the job... oh right, that's why you're on "the left", you rarely look at the situation on the whole.
 

Throckmorton

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Sounds like Halliburton / KBR (American executives and headquartered in Houston, TX) could handle it just fine.

But, was it not you that said:

Think of this as the US Military reaching out to Muslim nations and corporations, kinda like what NASA is going to do under the Obama administration.

What exactly makes KBR better? The fact that they're brigands and rogues?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a5nJIzM1zs.M

May 4 (Bloomberg) -- Billings from KBR Inc., the Army’s largest contractor in Iraq, constitute the “vast majority” of 32 cases referred by government auditors for criminal investigation, the Pentagon’s top auditor said today.

April Stephenson, head of the Pentagon’s contract audit agency, told the Wartime Contracting Commission that in the agency’s history, “I don’t think we are aware of a program, a contract or a contractor that’s had this number” of referrals.
 

CPA

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Sounds like Halliburton / KBR (American executives and headquartered in Houston, TX) could handle it just fine.

But, was it not you that said:

Think of this as the US Military reaching out to Muslim nations and corporations, kinda like what NASA is going to do under the Obama administration.

I'm sure if it was awarded to Halliburtion, the OP would have been just as pissed.
 

dahunan

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Quote: Originally Posted by dahunan View Post Just a drop in the bucket.. I wonder who all owns this DUBAI company... that will get away with less taxes paid to the citizens of the USA on the tax money stolen from them to pay for the war *sigh* You do realize the pointlessness in the government paying someone to do a job, while demanding taxes in return, right? Is that your only rage, that they're not paying taxes on the money they received? If we taxed them in such a way that would make you feel all warm & cuddly inside, that just means we would have to give them more money to complete the job... oh right, that's why you're on "the left", you rarely look at the situation on the whole.

Just like a good Republican you show your disrespect for the system with such ease

Taxes are what make this country run or are you that dumb? Your kind thinks taxes are a burden and equal to theft so instead of actually respecting this great nation you just feel all businesses will/should just raise prices instead of actually respect this nation and pay the proper taxes.
 

dahunan

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I'm sure if it was awarded to Halliburtion, the OP would have been just as pissed.


The OP thinks you are probably too lazy to even care about the government stealing your money

For all money you are paid as a resident of this nation you pay taxes at rate similar to all other residents of this great nation

For all money Halliburton is paid as WHAT USED TO BE an American Corporation they pay significantly and near fraudulent lower rates than other US Corporations .. in effect ... stealing your tax dollars that you didn't get a discount on...

First off.. they get NO BID contracts and then proceed to scam you and me out of the taxes they owe .. yet they are paid with our tax dollars... I guess Republicans like getting scammed by big corporations

Want to bet their bids get paid to them with the understanding that they will be paying a full tax rate and not hiring slave labor from 3rd world countries and having them shipped in to work without real labor rights?

You can start here
Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore

Shell companies in Cayman Islands allow KBR to avoid Medicare, Social Security deductions

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/03/06/top_iraq_contractor_skirts_us_taxes_offshore/
CAYMAN ISLANDS - Kellogg Brown & Root, the nation's top Iraq war contractor and until last year a subsidiary of Halliburton Corp., has avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars in federal Medicare and Social Security taxes by hiring workers through shell companies based in this tropical tax haven.



When Texas pipe-fitter Danny Langford applied for unemployment compensation after being let go by Service Employers International Inc., he was rejected, he was told, because he worked for a foreign company.
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More than 21,000 people working for KBR in Iraq - including about 10,500 Americans - are listed as employees of two companies that exist in a computer file on the fourth floor of a building on a palm-studded boulevard here in the Caribbean. Neither company has an office or phone number in the Cayman Islands.
The Defense Department has known since at least 2004 that KBR was avoiding taxes by declaring its American workers as employees of Cayman Islands shell companies, and officials said the move allowed KBR to perform the work more cheaply, saving Defense dollars.
But the use of the loophole results in a significantly greater loss of revenue to the government as a whole, particularly to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. And the creation of shell companies in places such as the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes has long been attacked by members of Congress.
A Globe survey found that the practice is unusual enough that only one other ma jor contractor in Iraq said it does something similar.
"Failing to contribute to Social Security and Medicare thousands of times over isn't shielding the taxpayers they claim to protect, it's costing our citizens in the name of short-term corporate greed," said Senator John F. Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee who has introduced legislation to close loopholes for companies registering overseas.
With an estimated $16 billion in contracts, KBR is by far the largest contractor in Iraq, with eight times the work of its nearest competitor.
 

yllus

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Oh my god, Americans buying stuff from non-Americans! I bet they're not even white - a clear sign of corruption!
 

nobodyknows

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Dahunan, who should have received the contract award instead?

I think he's more upset about the 8.5 billion involved with the fraud investigation. The military seems to be turning into nothing but a bottomless money pit.
 

child of wonder

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Nothing short of another revolution will stop all the corruption in our government.

And even then, things would just eventually go back to the way they are now given enough time.

People are greedy, selfish, egotistical primates.
 

EagleKeeper

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The military seems to be turning into nothing but a bottomless money pit.

Just like the other government agencies / services....

When the government changed from providing services from it's own internal agency to contracting out support it affected the civilian side as well as the military side.

It is also more cost effective to have the support from a local area instead of sending supplies in from overseas
 

rudder

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So

1) The U.S. military had $8.5B dollars in contracts with Kuwait Agility to provide local food and support services.
2) The U.S. military determines Agility is defrauding them for an as of yet unreported sum of money.
3) The U.S. military wisely chooses to change suppliers to a new firm which has the ability to provide local food and support services to the Kuwait, Iraq, and Jordan areas.

First of all is there even an U.S. company that can provide these services as efficiently as one based around Kuwait/Iraq/Jordan. Secondly how is it outrageous that the U.S. military switches one of its local food and support service vendors after getting defrauded by its current contractor?

Is your tinfoil hat syndrome so strong that you believe the U.S. military would snub U.S. providers of local food and support services in the Kuwait, Iraq, and Jordan areas if they could compete with the costs of a more local company?

Yes there are U.S. companies that are capable. but it is a touchy situation with U.S. troops in the Middle East... so this money goes to keep people happy who would otherwise plan bombing attacks against the troops. All the more reason to cap that leak and tell the Middle East to go f&*#k themselves.
 

nobodyknows

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Just like the other government agencies / services....

Like the police and firefighters? Or the crews that maintian the highways/bridges and keep them clear of snow and ice? I think they do their jobs a lot more efficiently then the military.