URGENT NEED HELP!!!My friend's P4 2.66GHz reports as a P4 1.06 GHz

[bgeh]

My friend asked me to remove the BIOS password that his father put to prevent him from playing games.
So I removed his mobo's battery and the password dissappeared. But now his P4 2.66GHz reports as a P4 1.06 GHz
I couldn't find the FSB speed setting. I doubt that is the problem or else it will report as a 2GHz processor.
The BIOS and Windows XP now show it as a 1.06GHz processor.
Checked the RAM and set it as 266MHz but the problem still persists
I know that his mobo is a intel mobo on the i845e chipset

 

[sandorski]

Don't know the mobo or where to change it, but it sure sounds like FSB to me.

 

[Duvie]

Go into the bios and see what it thinks the multiplier is??? At 1.06ghz it could be 7x133 or if the multiplier stayed at 20x it would be something funny like 53fsb....


I would think the pulling the battery would be sufficient...how long did you leave battery out???

 

[bsr]

its got to be the FSB, if its unlocked (as i guess all p4's are) then it may also be the multiplyer. theres should be under advanced or harware monitor settings.

Also try switching the jumper for 15 secs (then return it) instead of removing the battery. But when cmos gets reset it is only natural for the FSB to drop to its minimum to prevent cpu damage, this setting has to be manually set to the proper fsb.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Go into the bios and see what it thinks the multiplier is??? At 1.06ghz it could be 7x133 or if the multiplier stayed at 20x it would be something funny like 53fsb....


I would think the pulling the battery would be sufficient...how long did you leave battery out???

about 10 seconds

 

[Duvie]

Hit del at startup and go into bios and it should be like under frequency...I have seen the 2 different major bios programs and it should be pretty self explanatory when you see it....

A true p4 would have the multiplier locked by the chip but it would be interesting if you found a way to drop it to 7x....Ppl would go ape shiiit here if it wasn't a misreading.

The fsb seems right if the ram is still set 266 which would be 1:1 ratio with a 133fsb (133x2 = 266mhz ddr)

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: bsr
its got to be the FSB, if its unlocked (as i guess all p4's are) then it may also be the multiplyer. theres should be under advanced or harware monitor settings.

Also try switching the jumper for 15 secs (then return it) instead of removing the battery. But when cmos gets reset it is only natural for the FSB to drop to its minimum to prevent cpu damage, this setting has to be manually set to the proper fsb.

AFAIK, there were no jumpers available
looked around the mobo and saw none

 

[Duvie]

Pull batter y out for 30-60 seconds....or find the manual and see the jumper that resets the cmos and jumper it to reset...power on....power off (unplug psu)...then set jumper back and startup....

 

[Duvie]

Is this a prebuilt system...IE dell or HP???

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Hit del at startup and go into bios and it should be like under frequency...I have seen the 2 different major bios programs and it should be pretty self explanatory when you see it....

A true p4 would have the multiplier locked by the chip but it would be interesting if you found a way to drop it to 7x....Ppl would go ape shiiit here if it wasn't a misreading.

The fsb seems right if the ram is still set 266 which would be 1:1 ratio with a 133fsb (133x2 = 266mhz ddr)

i saw none
there was the speed of the processor which listed as 1.06GHz
but i couldn't find the ratio at all
btw, i think it uses the AWARD bios by phoenix

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Is this a prebuilt system...IE dell or HP???

it is a prebuilt system by a OEM company in malaysia
it's called vikings computer

 

[Duvie]

Are there any identifying markings on the board that can shed light on the manufacturer, model, and chipset of the mobo???

Sometimes major oem makers like dell use modified mobos and bios that don't allow the options we are talking about because the discourage ocing and don't want the customers tweaking them as it may lead to more tech issues they have to deal with....

AWARD bios on any i845d,e,&g that I have seen would have a submenu like I suggested and at least show you the numbers even if they were greyed out and could not adjust them...

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Are there any identifying markings on the board that can shed light on the manufacturer, model, and chipset of the mobo???

Sometimes major oem makers like dell use modified mobos and bios that don't allow the options we are talking about because the discourage ocing and don't want the customers tweaking them as it may lead to more tech issues they have to deal with....

AWARD bios on any i845d,e,&g that I have seen would have a submenu like I suggested and at least show you the numbers even if they were greyed out and could not adjust them...

the mobo manufacturer is intel
the chipset is a i845e
and yes, the settings are greyed out so i can't change them
i'm trying to find the model now

 

[Duvie]

And there the answer is!!!!

INTEL MOBOS ARE INFACT MOSTLY JUMPERLESS....

also they tend to be the less tweakable (if that is a word!!)...So the grey out seems about right for them....


try pulling it longer....unplug psu cable to mobo and let it set for a few minutes...then try....

Then go to intel.com and consult the tech or FAQ page and see if this is a safety feature because by you pulling the battery to circumvent the bios password it may feel you are compromising the computer. It may be what it does....

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
And there the answer is!!!!

INTEL MOBOS ARE INFACT MOSTLY JUMPERLESS....

also they tend to be the less tweakable (if that is a word!!)...So the grey out seems about right for them....


try pulling it longer....unplug psu cable to mobo and let it set for a few minutes...then try....

Then go to intel.com and consult the tech or FAQ page and see if this is a safety feature because by you pulling the battery to circumvent the bios password it may feel you are compromising the computer. It may be what it does....

i checked the model and its probably a D845EBT or a D845EBG2

 

[bsr]

Or maybe this is a good leason to follow your parents rules ??

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: bsr
Or maybe this is a good leason to follow your parents rules ??

maybe..but i still need help

 

[Duvie]

try this link:

D845EBT jumper configuration....

This may help or if it is the other board...it doesn't have a jumper block...download manual and read up on it...

D845EBG2 tech manual...


I hope you made sure when you pull the battery, play with jumpers, or anything with the board you unplug power to the PSU. You can static discharge or have soemthing contacty and short and cause the bios chip to be damaged...The only resolution there is to pull and replace...

 

[bsr]

its probly best to flip the switch on the psu instead of unpluging it, this will keep the case fully grounded.

 

[Duvie]

this is true!!! Point being is always be careful when touching things and adding/removing things....

I often will just unplug power to the board and make sure I ground myself to the case frame prior to touching anything....

I don't think you damaged it...I bet there is an override or something cause it thought you were trying to circumvent the protection by the main user...


You may need to reflash the bios to the baord and that may solve it as well...may be best bet...

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
try this link:

D845EBT jumper configuration....

This may help or if it is the other board...it doesn't have a jumper block...download manual and read up on it...

D845EBG2 tech manual...


I hope you made sure when you pull the battery, play with jumpers, or anything with the board you unplug power to the PSU. You can static discharge or have soemthing contacty and short and cause the bios chip to be damaged...The only resolution there is to pull and replace...

i don't think that it is static
the humidity here in malaysia, as a tropical country, is around 90% so static discharges are practically unheard of

 

[Duvie]

Look quick for the jumper block!! Don't have it then you are the 2nd board...

Either way I would pull batter for 1 minute at least....

try it...Stiil the same then...

Read the flash procedure and download a copy of the bios onto a floppy (most likely from another system) and reflash the board....Be careful and follow instructions closely...Screw up here and you will have a nice Bios keychain....

 

[Duvie]

Also have you ran a program like sissoft sandra and run cpu test and see if the cpu actually bechmarks at the speed of a 1.06ghz chip or is still in fact working at 2.66ghz p4b speed??? If that latter is the case why annoying the post speed would be at least you know the cpu is running fine and likley a reflash will fix it...

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Also have you ran a program like sissoft sandra and run cpu test and see if the cpu actually bechmarks at the speed of a 1.06ghz chip or is still in fact working at 2.66ghz p4b speed??? If that latter is the case why annoying the post speed would be at least you know the cpu is running fine and likley a reflash will fix it...

he doesn't have sisoft sandra
maybe i'll download it for him and put it into a cd
but i'm on dial-up
he also does not know a lot about computers(makes up 99% of the computer users population)
he asked me to it as a favor because he wanted to train for warcraft 3 as he is gonna play my other friend tomorrow

 

[mechBgon]

Try a search for "dxdiag" on the hard drive and run it. This is Microsoft's DirectX info tool and will tell you CPU speed. Or download Intel's WCPUID and run that.