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w0lf42

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I'm looking for a UPS. I'd like to stay under $100.00 and power my system (450 Watt PS, nVidia gt6600, AMD 3200, 19" CRT).

Newegg has an APC Back-UPS BE725BB 725VA 450W UPS with great reviews for ~$93.00 (shipped).

Is this a good deal? Are there better suggestions?
 
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pkme2

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I recommend Cyberpower because AVR (automatic voltage regulator) is built in. I have the 1250AVR and its saved my bacon, many times. We have a lot of brownouts in our area. I also have APC 650Backups, but it has a separate line conditioner which brought the price up to $250.

http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/UPS_AVR.asp

The $300,000 insurance against computer damage is great, but the price is super.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Cyberpower-CP12...3QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You check the info and you can decide.

 
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Mickey21

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All of APC models in that category and probably their entire line have "AVR" as well aka Power Conditioning aka Line Conditioning. I dont know what model you are talking about that didnt have Power Conditioning, but I couldnt find a line that didnt. Quite possible it had an additional unit to increase the conditioning for ultra sensitive equipment or increased filtering from line noise. Not sure, but it has been some time since they sold models that didnt have Power Conditioning. Personally I have had some cyberpower UPS systems that had premature battery failures within months of purchase and entire units that failed soon. I only buy them when I want ultra low cost (usually for clients that dont want to have one at all but I insist they use something). That APC linked by the OP is about right for that model. APC sells that unit for 99.99 off their website so a couple bucks off and shipped is pretty good. Should do you fine either brand you get as long as you get something. Just didnt want you to rule out an APC unit just because. APC makes fine UPS units and I have always had very good luck with them and have deployed hundreds in the Hospital Network I help administrate here. Good luck...
 
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MWink

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Originally posted by: Mickey21
All of APC models in that category and probably their entire line have "AVR" as well aka Power Conditioning aka Line Conditioning. I dont know what model you are talking about that didnt have Power Conditioning, but I couldnt find a line that didnt. Quite possible it had an additional unit to increase the conditioning for ultra sensitive equipment or increased filtering from line noise. Not sure, but it has been some time since they sold models that didnt have Power Conditioning. Personally I have had some cyberpower UPS systems that had premature battery failures within months of purchase and entire units that failed soon. I only buy them when I want ultra low cost (usually for clients that dont want to have one at all but I insist they use something). That APC linked by the OP is about right for that model. APC sells that unit for 99.99 off their website so a couple bucks off and shipped is pretty good. Should do you fine either brand you get as long as you get something. Just didnt want you to rule out an APC unit just because. APC makes fine UPS units and I have always had very good luck with them and have deployed hundreds in the Hospital Network I help administrate here. Good luck...
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I wish you were right but most low end APC UPS's do NOT have AVR and some of the ones that do only have AVR Boost (no Trim). The Back-UPS ES, CS, and a few others do not have any AVR. The Back-UPS RS series does (though the RS 800/900 only has Boost). The OLD Back-UPS Pro's and most of the Smart-UPS's do have full AVR.

As for other brands, almost none of them have full AVR (just Boost). All the ones I looked at that claimed AVR only had Boost (Belkin, Cyberpower, Tripp Lite, etc.). It seems that there are very few UPS's with full AVR for under $200.

To the OP, the ES series is decent though low end. BTW $93 is not a very good price for that model.
 
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pkme2

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AVR is Automatic Voltage Regulator.
It keeps voltage to computer constant at 120v, even if house/office power supply fluctuates down or up.
 
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Mr Bob

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Ooo, very nice. Hopefully the one I got through BestBuy will have something like that. Although for $40, that's very doubtful :(
 
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seanp789

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Originally posted by: deathwalker
I have this one...it is awsome. I have absolutley everything connected to it..pc/monitor/router/dsl modem/printer/scanner...and it has 32 min of power reserve with all that load.

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=298345&pfp=cat3
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Deathwalker that backup ups LINK FOR UPS TYPES

And isnt really voltage conditioning, it will switch to battery any time the voltage goes out of tollerance (over volt) which depending on how often Voltage flux occur could be good and very annoying at the same time.

"2. The Back-UPS RS models have both Boost* and Trim** as features of Automatic Voltage Regulation (AVR), where as the Back-UPS XS only has Boost. When the input voltage increases above the high transfer point of a Back-UPS XS model it will only go to battery. " - quote from APC

The RS1000 and RS1500 have the line interactive topology which is superior to the XS 's standby topology. there is really very little on apc 's power conditioning methods.

the SC1000 is really the next big step up in quality after that.

 
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thespeakerbox

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Check out ebay. They have some nice apc back ups for cheap. You can even check craigslist if you want to go the used route. Batteries are alot cheaper on ebay, so used isnt a bad option
 
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MWink

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Originally posted by: thespeakerbox
Check out ebay. They have some nice apc back ups for cheap. You can even check craigslist if you want to go the used route. Batteries are alot cheaper on ebay, so used isnt a bad option
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Two comments on that. 1. Buying a used APC product will NOT have a valid Equipment Protection Policy (EPP). I have confirmed this with APC. 2. I wouldn't buy SLA batteries on Ebay, even if you get a new one (most SLA batteries last only 3-5 years regardless of use) it would likely be a worse brand. I've seen cheap batteries do some scary things. If you do it anyway, I'd suggest looking for a battery made by CSB, Yuasa/Enersys, Long, or Panasonic (IMO Panasonic is by FAR the best). Avoid Universal Battery (UB) at all costs.
 
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seanp789

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Originally posted by: halw
What's your opinon of this UPS?
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Ive seen the next model up go for $130 on froogle. Amazon has it for $170 LINK

APC Back-UPS RS BR1000 1000 VA / 600 Watts Output CapacityNominal Input 120V / Output 120V USB ...

Price: $130.50 - $252.50
 
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BigHurt

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For those of you familiar with UPS's... would you recommend APC over Tripp Lite or are both brands on the higher end of the manufacturer spectrum??

I know nothing of UPS's and would gladly get some feedback...
(there seem to be an overwhelming number of posts on this subject so I figured I would just reply to one instead.)

I was looking at something like this: Tripp Lite OmniVS1000

Basically anything <$150 with AVR and as long of a power reserve as possible.
 
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Ike0069

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Both are high end makers.
Personally I have found Cyberpower and Belkin to be more than sufficient though, while costing considerably less than either of those two.
 
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Blain

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I used to be a rabid Tripp-Lite UPS fan because of their high VA, good price and high joule rating. But since they've cut their joule rating way down...
Here I come CyberPower! :thumbsup::laugh:
I'm sold on 1260 Joules. :D
 
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Blain

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I spoke on the phone yesterday with a Tripp-Lite rep. about them cutting down the joule rating on the 750VA unit.
He said they dropped the joule rating but added more outlets. He didn't know exactly why they would do such a thing, just that they did.

He also said it was fine to plug in a UPS "behind" a surge protector...
NOT in front of one!

>> Illustration Here <<
 
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