UPS delivery person trying to scam me... story inside

AgaBoogaBoo

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For the past few weeks, we've been getting a lot of packages, and so the Fedex and UPS guys know me. I see them arrive and usually come outside to meet them half way. Anyway, they've learned my name and so we're all on a first name basis. For a while, I thought that this was great, and that they're being nice, which Fedex is. However yesterday, the UPS person asked me if I'm ever looking for a business opportunity outside of what I do.

At this point, sirens are going off in my head, but I figured he might just be getting a referral fee from UPS by recruiting drivers or something and so I responded telling him that I'm not looking for anything right now, but I'm open to listen to any thoughts he had. After I said that, the reaction and wording I got seemed like something he had practiced a million times and is ready to shoot himself if he had to repeat it again.

He told me that there is a new company in town that helps local businesses transform into an online retailer. He's telling me that mom and pop shops can use this service to go online and then close down their retail shop. Putting aside all the issues with that and the reasons why a mom and pop shop is all about being local with personalized attention and everything, I couldn't help but feel sorry for him. He's going on and on about how this will utilize the Amazon affiliate/referral tools, and that if I want to be a part of this, we can setup a time to meet.

He hands me a business card that has a picture of $100 bills on it and then forgets to hand me one of the packages that was in his hand. I guess he didn't practice the part where he hands the packages.

More info: This scam is a local thing that I've heard about twice in the past week. I met a kid at a meeting for local investors and entrepreneurs that was interested in talking to me, turned out he wanted to get me in on this too. The other incident was a friend who was contacted by someone he had an elementary school class with that was recruiting him for the same thing.

This is just a stupid pyramid scam that requires people to pay money to get involved and I'm a little disappointed that the UPS guy would do this. I would report him, but he handles all the packages that I get delivered, can't piss him off :p

Question: Is there a kind way of telling him that he's in a scam? I'm not sure if he realizes that this is a pyramid scam or not... I guess the simplest solution is to ask him if he knows this is a scam or not, is that too harsh? I think it's best I do it before he gets reported by someone else for it.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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bwahaha. I had some guy stop me outside of tumbleweed with the same offer a month ago. I can't remember what it was called now, lemme look it up
 

silverpig

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I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...

And he thought that out of all the people he knew and had met since then, you were the sucker most likely to fall for it. Were you pissed?
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
bwahaha. I had some guy stop me outside of tumbleweed with the same offer a month ago. I can't remember what it was called now, lemme look it up
If you can find it, that would be great, I'd like to print out something proving that it's a scam to him. The thing that gets me is that this guy is in his 30's or 40's, how can he still fall for this?

UPS and Fedex have always given me an impression that they're good companies who treat their employees well, and so I don't know why he's messing around with this stuff. He has options to get further in life or make more money if that's what he wants, but he shouldn't be messing with something that's going well for him.
 

Vehemence

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It's pretty crazy people still fall for pyramid schemes. I had a good co-worker friend who dumped thousands in to one when he really couldn't spare the money and ended up gettin hosed.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...

And he thought that out of all the people he knew and had met since then, you were the sucker most likely to fall for it. Were you pissed?

He'd already tried (sometimes successfully) to get other people in on it. The thing is the guy who signed my friend up (the one he was with) was really gung-ho on it. He'd quit his job and he and his wife had decided that this was how they were going to support their family.

My favourite part:

Him: Do you know what exponential means?
Me: Yes. I'm a physics major...
Him: Can you tell me what it means?
Me: I'd have to look up the rigorous definition, but it basically means that
Him: It means it doubles.
Me: Well... not necessari
Him: No it means it doubles. Let me show you how the money you make will double.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Turin39789
bwahaha. I had some guy stop me outside of tumbleweed with the same offer a month ago. I can't remember what it was called now, lemme look it up
If you can find it, that would be great, I'd like to print out something proving that it's a scam to him. The thing that gets me is that this guy is in his 30's or 40's, how can he still fall for this?

UPS and Fedex have always given me an impression that they're good companies who treat their employees well, and so I don't know why he's messing around with this stuff. He has options to get further in life or make more money if that's what he wants, but he shouldn't be messing with something that's going well for him.

I might still have his card at home. I got the name of the group off his website, then googled it etc. there were some youtube videos of their conference. hilarity.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...

And he thought that out of all the people he knew and had met since then, you were the sucker most likely to fall for it. Were you pissed?

He'd already tried (sometimes successfully) to get other people in on it. The thing is the guy who signed my friend up (the one he was with) was really gung-ho on it. He'd quit his job and he and his wife had decided that this was how they were going to support their family.

My favourite part:

Him: Do you know what exponential means?
Me: Yes. I'm a physics major...
Him: Can you tell me what it means?
Me: I'd have to look up the rigorous definition, but it basically means that
Him: It means it doubles.
Me: Well... not necessari
Him: No it means it doubles. Let me show you how the money you make will double.

LoL
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
I might still have his card at home. I got the name of the group off his website, then googled it etc. there were some youtube videos of their conference. hilarity.
This one is called "Break Free Marketing" and under that, it says "E-Commerce Development".

I googled it and don't see any website relating to this, maybe they operate under different names so it's harder to track?

I think my general rule of thumb is that if people talk about money very quickly in the discussion, something is wrong. There are a bunch of ways to identify a scam including that, but also simple phrases like "If it's too good to be true, it is". There's also the simple fact that if this was real, why wouldn't they just hire employees and not get people to pay money to sign up?
 

CPA

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See this is why I don't get friendly with outsiders and only keep one friend from school.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Turin39789
bwahaha. I had some guy stop me outside of tumbleweed with the same offer a month ago. I can't remember what it was called now, lemme look it up
If you can find it, that would be great, I'd like to print out something proving that it's a scam to him. The thing that gets me is that this guy is in his 30's or 40's, how can he still fall for this?

UPS and Fedex have always given me an impression that they're good companies who treat their employees well, and so I don't know why he's messing around with this stuff. He has options to get further in life or make more money if that's what he wants, but he shouldn't be messing with something that's going well for him.

I might still have his card at home. I got the name of the group off his website, then googled it etc. there were some youtube videos of their conference. hilarity.
This one is called "Break Free Marketing" and under that, it says "E-Commerce Development".

I googled it and don't see any website relating to this, maybe they operate under different names so it's harder to track?


i think each person sets up their own, and with a password you get to go inside their store and buy toothpaste for $20
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: silverpig

My favourite part:

Him: Do you know what exponential means?
Me: Yes. I'm a physics major...
Him: Can you tell me what it means?
Me: I'd have to look up the rigorous definition, but it basically means that
Him: It means it doubles.
Me: Well... not necessari
Him: No it means it doubles. Let me show you how the money you make will double.


I had a random Indian guy call up my house (I didn't my school my cell phone number) and tell my parents that he had an important message for me. So they call me (didn't give him my cell) and give me his email address. I email him and we meet at the student center on campus. His sales pitch? Let me show you how you can compound your time and make money.

He was a PhD student in Chemistry. I asked him for a proof that you can compound time (being a scientist and all). We argued back and forth for like 40 mins (I had time to kill before class and I love to argue). I don't think he left very happy. In hindsight, I should have made him buy me lunch :)

 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...

oh god.. my brother was about to do that... he wouldn't listen to me... he got the starter kit or something... and wised up (or lazied up). He returned it so minimal loss.

oh, and when I was in HS working at best buy, some mid 40's asian guy after helping him select a printer.. he was impressed with me and handed me a business card with a number to call. I can't remember the name of the company.. but i called, and they are like "come on in and we'll talk more." He made it sound like another sales position, so I agreed to come in because if it paid more than best buy, I'd be game.

Turns out it was a huge presentation with like 40-50 ppl like me who were approached. I was curious so I sat through to see what they had to say... but shook my head as I left... they got me to come by.. haha
 

ChaosDivine

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Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...
I fscking hate Quixtar (or Brit World Wide here in IA) with a vengeance :|
 

Q

Lifer
Jul 21, 2005
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Show the UPS gay a printout of sites calling it a scam -- I hate when people fall for this stuff.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: silverpig
I hope I don't start getting this too. I had a high-school friend contact me out of the blue to meet him for some coffee a few years back. I travelled about 1.5 hrs to meet him and he was with this guy who started telling me all about this awesome company called Quixtar...

And he thought that out of all the people he knew and had met since then, you were the sucker most likely to fall for it. Were you pissed?

He'd already tried (sometimes successfully) to get other people in on it. The thing is the guy who signed my friend up (the one he was with) was really gung-ho on it. He'd quit his job and he and his wife had decided that this was how they were going to support their family.

My favourite part:

Him: Do you know what exponential means?
Me: Yes. I'm a physics major...
Him: Can you tell me what it means?
Me: I'd have to look up the rigorous definition, but it basically means that
Him: It means it doubles.
Me: Well... not necessari
Him: No it means it doubles. Let me show you how the money you make will double.

LoL

Well if your income is $2 and the exponent is 2, I suppose he's correct.
 

CasioTech

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if you aren't going to report him, why are you starting this thread you p****.

UPS drivers make base $20/hr.

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QueBert

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Originally posted by: dNor
It's pretty crazy people still fall for pyramid schemes. I had a good co-worker friend who dumped thousands in to one when he really couldn't spare the money and ended up gettin hosed.

if you can get enough people to do what you do, they work. 15 years ago I got involved in one and busted my ass and got 10 people to sign up under me and made $$$$$. They asked me if I wanted to re-invest and I said no taking my money and running :)
 

SandEagle

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Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: silverpig

My favourite part:

Him: Do you know what exponential means?
Me: Yes. I'm a physics major...
Him: Can you tell me what it means?
Me: I'd have to look up the rigorous definition, but it basically means that
Him: It means it doubles.
Me: Well... not necessari
Him: No it means it doubles. Let me show you how the money you make will double.


I had a random Indian guy call up my house (I didn't my school my cell phone number) and tell my parents that he had an important message for me. So they call me (didn't give him my cell) and give me his email address. I email him and we meet at the student center on campus. His sales pitch? Let me show you how you can compound your time and make money.

He was a PhD student in Chemistry. I asked him for a proof that you can compound time (being a scientist and all). We argued back and forth for like 40 mins (I had time to kill before class and I love to argue). I don't think he left very happy. In hindsight, I should have made him buy me lunch :)

Jassi, his name wasn't Prabo by chance was it? I had an Indian, PhD chemistry guy hassle me forever with this when I was in college. I avoided him like a plague.
 

SAWYER

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Apr 27, 2000
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A guy at work has a card for a company called "Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing", and gave me a brainwashing dvd
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
if you aren't going to report him, why are you starting this thread you p****.

UPS drivers make base $20/hr.
1) Interesting story
2) AT is my personal blog
3) The chance you might hate me
4) I'd prefer that he maybe stops on his own so that I don't have to report him

I'll give people a chance to correct their mistake before reporting it, plus it isn't really an issue, more just interesting :p