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UPnP?

Zucarita, you may not realise it, but if you have MSN Messenger and use its extended features (VoiceChat, File Transfer, etc), then you should keep it up and running, regardless of whether you have an XP Pro box or a Win95A Box. While the OS itself may not make use of UPnP, certain software does.
 
Originally posted by: chsh1ca
Zucarita, you may not realise it, but if you have MSN Messenger and use its extended features (VoiceChat, File Transfer, etc), then you should keep it up and running, regardless of whether you have an XP Pro box or a Win95A Box. While the OS itself may not make use of UPnP, certain software does.

I didn't know that... I do use MSN Voice chat and Netmeeting quite a bit, so I guess I'll leave it on. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Yeah, certain software does, including several nasty viri and worms... up to you though.

Odd, nothing concrete turns up for these searches:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=virus+upnp&meta=
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=worm+upnp&meta=

In fact, the only mentions are for the Microsoft UPnP implementation, not for anything else. There were some buffer overflows in that particular implementation of UPnP, but that has little to do with the Linksys router in question.

Could you provide me with a link to an example of one of these 'virii' (which is the wrong plural of virus, btw -- you say walruses not walrii) or worms that purportedly make use of UPnP? Not that it would really make any sense for a worm or virus to make use of UPnP, but that's another story altogether.
 
I would suggest reading this first:

UnPlug n' Pray.

Than Download the little Proggie UnPlug n' Pray (It works on Win98 & WinXP).

Using this program, it takes 3 seconds to disable or enable UPnP on any computer.

I would leave the setting on the Router On (It does not work well on most Entry Level Router regardless of the manufactures claims).

You can experiment and decide whether you need it on or off, on a specific computer.

I do not use messenger, my UPnP is off on all computers and it is On in the Router.


I never encountered any problem, concerning this issue.
 
Jack, perhaps you misread the poster's original post, because that link is for disabling UPnP implementations in XP/ME/etc..

I will save my opinions of GRC for another day as well. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: chsh1ca
Jack, perhaps you misread the poster's original post, because that link is for disabling UPnP implementations in XP/ME/etc..

I will save my opinions of GRC for another day as well. 🙂
I Hi-lighted for you part of the above post.

 
Originally posted by: chsh1ca
Jack, perhaps you misread the poster's original post, because that link is for disabling UPnP implementations in XP/ME/etc..

I will save my opinions of GRC for another day as well. 🙂

What's wrong with GRC?
 
Originally posted by: Oaf357

What's wrong with GRC?

Let's just say I had some bad experiences with the membership on the GRC newsgroups worshipping the ground that Mr. Gibson walked on, whether he was right or wrong. It was honestly at the point where if you even intoned the man was wrong and made several valid points, you would be leapt on and labeled 'faschist' and 'anti-gibson'. Also, the flashiness and general over-hype of his sites tend to inspire FUD, which is as big an enemy as any for serious tech people who work day to day, and makes it hard for me to take the message seriously (and in some cases, it's turned out to be utterly wrong). Kudos to Steve for leaving his predictions which turned out to be wrong up there on his site.

Apart from the over-the-top panicked presentation of his articles, I personally have no problems with Steve Gibson himself -- from what I hear he's a fantastic Assembly programmer.
 
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