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Upgrading to HD for a Definitive PS3 Experience

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TheDev

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I've had a PS3 ever since 2008 when MGS4 came out. However, I have only been able to play my PS3 on a SDTV since I have been a poor college student without much extra money to spend. Now, I have graduated from college, have a high-paying job, and I am ready to upgrade to HD. I am thinking about getting a 40-inch Sony Bravia. Do I need to get an HDMI cable in order to play my PS3 games in HD? Or could I just use the red-yellow-white connectors to hook my PS3 up to my HDTV? Do Sony Bravias have LED back-lighting? A friend said that I should try to get an HDTV with that. Do Bravias dim their brightness after a certain period of time? I don't want that. Overall are Sony Bravias good HDTVs for playing PS3 games?
 
you need hdmi.

do not get the super slim led side lit model, get a back lit one. I am not familiar with bravia models so I can't tell you which is what.
 
Based upon what I've read in other forums, I think this is what I want:

$500 or less
at least 40 inches
at least two HDMI cable outputs
LED backlight
1080p
response time: 1-6 milliseconds
frame-smoothing features can be disabled
auto-dim feature can be disabled
good customer support
good warranty
vibrant colors
good resolution

Any suggestions for specific HDTV's?
 
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TheDev said:
Based upon what I've read in other forums, I think this is what I want:

$500 or less
at least 40 inches
potentially Sony Bravia or Samsung
at least two HDMI cable outputs
LED backlight
1080p
response time: 1-6 milliseconds
frame-rate: 120hz instead of 60hz
frame-smoothing features can be disabled
auto-dim feature can be disabled
good customer support
good warranty
vibrant colors
good resolution

Any suggestions for specific HDTV's?
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40 is kind of small these days 😛 My display is 44" tall :biggrin:

120Hz is by and large a gimmick.
 
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sdifox said:
40 is kind of small these days 😛

120Hz is by and large a gimmick.
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Yeah I know 40" is kind of small, but I sit very close to my TV when I play games, and if I went any bigger, it'd be to big for me. Also, bigger=more expensive; likely over $500. I would like to keep it at $500 or less.
 
whatever you do, do not make the mistake I did in buying a 720p tv

720p tv's use a 1366 x 768 panel

you will never run any ps3 game in its native resolution

what happens on a 1366 x 768 panel is every single detail in the image, every hard edge line gets stretched out to 2 pixels because that's all the scaler knows how to do when going from 1280 x 720 to 1366 x 768

so 1366 x 768 effectively have a less sharp image than a native 1280 x 720 panel would (if they existed, which they dont, except on old dlp sets)

you are better off buying a 1080p and scaling everything to 1920 x 1080 because its a cleaner scale than the incredibly odd scaling of 1280 x 720 to 1366 x 768 which ruins all single-pixel edges
 
btw, they did this on purpose ^

they made 720p sets use non-native panels so the percieved quality jump from 720p to 1080p would be greater

if 720p sets were actually native 1280 x 720 you would not notice much difference between 720p and 1080p tv's smaller than 50"

the 720p scaling to 1366x768 ruins the image making the 1080p a bigger improvement because it uses a native res panel

planned obsolescence at work
 
TheDev said:
I've heard that Bravias have very good resolution. However, I hear they also have very bad customer support. I'm willing to consider all brands really.
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😕

Where did you hear something about having "better" resolution? Modern 1080p TVs have the exact same resolution... 1080p. That's what 1080p is, the screen resolution.

Also... why 120Hz? That's typically 3D displays so it'll be tough to meet your budget with that restriction.

IMO these days Sony is overpriced for what little perks they give. Samsung is nice but some of their low end models cut too many corners to get to that price. Vizio has been some of the best bang for your buck for a number of years now. I'd consider that given your budget.

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http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-Class-T...=UTF8&qid=1342319197&sr=1-2&keywords=vizio+tv

Tad over $500 Amazon price, but it does get you 120Hz
 
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I'd personally go with something like this... close to your price range. It doesn't have "internet apps" like some others... but why pay extra for that stuff when the PS3 has all that anyways. I have 2 Samsung 46" LCDs and have had no complaints. I am of the opinion that 120Hz and 3D are just marketing gimmicks. Sorry I'm not wearing glasses to see faux 3d. A LED backlight IMO will give you more of an improvement than 120Hz & faux 3d.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN40EH...sung+40%22+led
 
If you are going to be gaming or watching sports on this tv, you need to go with a plasma. LCD is simply too slow. Those 120hz, 240hz gimmicks are only an attempt to make you think they are faster at refreshing than they are.

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JeffKnob said:
If you are going to be gaming or watching sports on this tv, you need to go with a plasma. LCD is simply too slow. Those 120hz, 240hz gimmicks are only an attempt to make you think they are faster at refreshing than they are.

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LOL No.
 
I'm surprised you lasted that long. Took me less than a year before I caved and bought an HDTV.

Bravia TVs aren't very good. Everyone I know that's had one has had it in the shop. I'm still a fan of Samsung when it comes to LCD displays. Been awhile since I've looked at TVs but I also liked the Sharp Aquos series a lot. LG can be hit and miss on picture quality but seem to hold up well.

As for LED vs CCFL backlighting, there's not that much difference. LED TVs are thinner but the edge lighting washes out blacks pretty bad. As the others said, make sure it's not edge lit.

For speed, response time matters far more than hertz when you're gaming on console. Response time measures how fast pixels change from gray to gray. Look for the lowest you can find. Most games on console don't go above 60fps anyway so going with 120hz is pointless for gaming. Movies on the other hand, it makes a difference with Bluray as you can watch films in their native 24fps format.
 
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sdifox said:
40 is kind of small these days 😛 My display is 44" tall :biggrin:

120Hz is by and large a gimmick.
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120Hz isn't a gimmick if you want to play back Blu-ray movies at 24fps without 3:2 pulldown. Anything higher than that though, and you won't notice...

Unless you're looking to buy a high end TV, I'd actually avoid getting an LED LCD HDTV and go for a plasma. Sure the display will be thicker, but you'll get a far larger display for the same money.
 
Isn't the NTSC standard actually 23.976 frames per second not 24? You see that brought up often enough in Anandtech HTPC articles especially since Intel's drivers still don't support that refresh rate. 😛 If that's the case, then you will still have repeated frames, but much, much less often.
 
JeffKnob said:
If you read any critical testing of HD TV's you would know that I am right. LCD's are slow. That isn't an opinion, it is fact.

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They may be (relatively) "slow", but to say they are "too slow for gaming or sports" is just plain ridiculous.
 
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